>> according to grover norquest, 34 republicans in the senate broke that pledge yesterday when we voted to get rid of the subsidies on ethanol. so this is-- we're not working on a math problem. we're working? in the senate of the united states, working in the congress. we're trying to come up with something that will help lessen the burden of debt on the american people. and there are things we can do on revenue. i think, of course, i believe that the people making more than $1 million a year should pay their fair share as warren buffett and others believe. but they obviously have locked in there. i think even grover norquest who has been criticizing people for breaking the tax pledge, there are ways we can do this. there has to be something done with revenue to make this fair. >> lehrer: so when vice president biden says, okay, we have some agreement here, but the hard part it's hard parts are still to come what, is he talking about? >> i'm sure the president is going to be making some of those decisions what the hard parts are. i'm pretty sure that speaker boehner ask i had been calle