grover norquist, mr. no tax pledge. when bill clinton got his tax raise on the -- added two levels to the tax cold, president obama got his tax raised. but i would like to ask you this, your next step in your next plan is this: don't let a democratic president govern as a democrat. you're doing the same issues, you're coming out from time to time, you's involved in the plant only until the labor issues. you are still the same person, and you have really, you have conspiracy many in the treason with the republican politicians who sign your pledge. >> host: we'll let our guest answer. >> guest: okay. you know, one of the things we talked about many d.c., in washington is the lack of civility, and if you don't understand somebody's position or you don't agree with it or, in your case, you misrepresent it, probably calling other people traitors is not the way to go, because you kind of lose people's interest or seriousness, okay? we immediate to have a civil conversation. -- need to have a civil conversation. we have a tax

grover norquist, mr. no taxpayers.hen bill clinton got his tax raised for the top two percent, and the tax code, president obama got his taxes raised. your next step and your next plan is this. don't let a democratic president govern as a democrat. you do the same issues when you come out from time to time, involved in the threat and the number of issues and you are still the same person and you conspiracy with treason with the republican politicians behind you. guest: ok. one thing we talk about in washington is the lack of civility. if you don't understand someone's position or don't agree with it, or misrepresented, calling other people traders is not the way to go because you lose people's interest. we have to have civil conversation. we have a tax code that kills jobs. the government's own statistics say that if we reduce the marginal tax rate we would have more economic growth and more jobs. you mentioned reagan, who took the top marginal tax rate. this is the important difference between the average tax rate and

here now is former dnc chair howard dean and grover norquist, founders of americans for tax reform.e. that's the easy part, but i thought when president obama was making one of his 30 changes without any legislative help, he said people with canceled plans could renew the plans, and he knew that would take a long time, and he was there for waiving the tax penalty for this year, which the i.r.s. is putting out as a threat. am i wrong? are they waiving the tax hike or not? >> well, they're promising to do it in some cases. however, the tax tips they put out kind of blows the cover, in thehood lines tax tips. inside nine times it's the shared responsibility payment, which is a long way of avoiding the word "taxes." it's only $95 this year. it goes up to $2,000 or more, at least minimum of 2085 in the future, so this tax is not only growing, and it's the shared responsibility payment if you're a democrat talking about it, but you might think of it as a tax, but in addition you have to fill out a bunch of paperwork to let the government know where you've been each month of the last year

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"some billionaire conservatives such as americans for tax reform, grover norquist's group are taking out ads saying, don't do this." the voting in chattanooga concludes friday evening football players at northwestern university are moving the ball forward in their effort to form a union. the case could have larger implications for college athletes.players for the wildcats filed a union election petition with the national labor relations board january 28th.it's the first from a college sports team seeking union protection.at an nlrb hearing yesterday-- an attorney representing the university argued athletes are students not employees.the player's attorney contends the school generates huge revenues from their work. as the winter weather grips much of the nation....home depot is springing ahead. the retailer is adding 80 thousand employees for what it calls its "peak hiring season" home depot is benefiting from the recovery in the housing market.. and, is encouraging students, retirees, veterans and reservists to apply. home depot shares are up 17% for the past year. amazon is hiring 2

grover norquist launched the center for worker freedom.ard delivered the suggestion of socialism, united obama workers. and this one meant to strike fear in the hearts of workers everywhere. detroit, brought to you by the uaw. >> so they can't help with the wages. you've got a facility that is the most advanced environmental sound facility in the world right here in chattanooga, tennessee. so what is this about? it's about one thing. it's about money and it's about power. >> that's the one thing senator corker did get right in all of this. the fight in workers rights and the battle over unionization is about those things -- money and power. joining me now from washington, timothy noah. thank you so much for joining the program, especially on this day when the conversation about fair wages is as relevant as it ever has been. what struck me was the odd bedfellows here. the uaw took a neutral position on the unionization of its own employe employees. the first step to getting a workers council is allowing peoples to unionize. were you struck

grover norquist, founder of americans for tax reform, still isn't happy with that deal.s is joe lavorgna, the chief u.s. economist at deutsche bank. he says this rally is more evidence that the republicans did exactly the right thing. good to see you both. welcome back to you both. grover, i know you're disappo t disappointed, but are you surprised given the political climate in washington that john boehner would allow a clean bill to be passed or voted on at least? >> well, one might have hoped that we'd get some spending restraint in the package. the president said he'd shut the government down and default before he'd allowed spending restraint. on the other hand, what the president and the democrats were asking for were spending increases attached to the debt ceiling. they wanted to hold the debt ceiling hostage for spending increases. we stopped that. we avoided that. i think it's wise for the stock market to react well to defeating the president's and the democrats' effort to attach unemployment spending to the bill. >> is this reaction about those defeats or reacti

>> grover norquist is very influential on tax matters. this is a spending matter. he does not have exactly the same weight. basically, most republicans have signed the no new taxes ledge. -- no new taxes pledge. he holds their feet to the fire on that. he still retains other influence on spending matters. it is important including the national taxpayers union. and some tea party groups as well. defection, it a remains to be seen how large it will be. just coming out of the meeting in the interviews i had there , were a large number of conservatives from jim jordan, matt harriman, saying that they cannot support this plan. >> erik wasson, thanks for joining us. the hill.com. thank you for joining us. >> thanks so much. israelig up, a former because theyis not were not there in numbers, perhaps not as glamorous as other planes. their contribution to the war effort was the replaceable. >> beautiful. familiar tos so actually sit here. back together again, you will have to come see it. >> for my personal tie to this airplane, this was the airplane i flew in vietnam. com

we're having fun and grover norquist is here, he's for tax reform and he's got a smile on his face., i'm going to get to that uaw victory you pulled off, but first, i've got to ask you about the cbo report. a half million fewer jobs if the minimum wage goes up to 10.10. do you trust the numbers? sometimes you haven't in the past, do you trust the numbers? >> historically whenever you raised the minimum wage there's been unmore unemployment particularly with young people. so that's in keeping with history. i think the president is trying to lengthen the period of puberty and teenage opportunities to go to the beach and other things like that and not get tied down with a job until you're more like 25, 26 perhaps. so, you know, it's really a blow for recreation and letting kids be kids until they're maybe early 30's. stuart: sarcasm is a low form of wit, glover norquist. i think you know that. >> okay. stuart: let's move on to the uaw defeat at the vw plant in tennessee. you came right out there and you got involved in that. you were trying to persuade workers not to accept the union.

then grover norquist will weigh in.ter, connecticut senator chris murphy who chairs a european affairs subcommittee, will discuss the political situation in you can -- in ukraine and the u.s. role there. you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. ♪ host: house speaker john boehner headed to the white house today to speak with president obama. lately to discuss immigration reform, raising the minimum wage, and extending unemployment benefits. president obama also plans to announce the opening of two new manufacturing institutes in the chicago and detroit eric -- areas. it really matched by the private funds. in the first hour this morning we will get you thoughts on the plans from the defense department to slow down the growth of the military

grover norquist, conservative anti-tax activist, launched a new branch of his lobbying effort calledter for worker freedom, and this norquist group put up 15 billboards like this one across chattanooga pushing for a no vote. this bill board shows a rundown section of detroit and blames the uaw for the city's bankruptcy. senator corker, who helped bring volkswagen to town when he was chattanooga's mayor, told workers that unionizing can only hurt them in the long run. >> so they can't help with wages. you have a fatality that's the most advanced environmentally sound facility in the world right here in chattanooga, tennessee. so what's this about? it's about one thing. it's about money and it's about power. >> i think, yes, that is correct, on both sides of this argument. finally, though, after a three-day secret ballot vote, they voted 712-626 against unionizing the tennessee plant. >> it's the problem of the uaw has a need for our money. they don't care about these guys. they really don't. i've been there. >> we're thankful that it turned out the way it did, and now we can move forw

i'm just telling you -- i think grover norquist and i were the only two conservatives in the universehere and was, like, yeah, yeah. do it. and show the rest of the world they can kiss our butt. >> okay. >> yeah, that we can do it, they can knock down buildings if they want to. we're more powerful, and we're stronger, and the idea of america is so massive and huge and strong, that i hope we do it to rub the haters -- you know, rub their noses in it. that commercial to me just shows that america is set apart. we are, as we said, the baptist church sanctified. again, i understand people who might say, it's the balkanization of america. we should be more like -- more like -- i don't know. a great ad. the fact that we're talking about it probably is pretty good. what do you think of the ad? >> i like it. i'm a daughter of immigrants. and i did -- i like to watch different tv shows for amusement, but also get a sense of different perspectives given the problem we have in the media. and i saw a couple of people bashing it, and i didn't get it at all. i thought it was kind of ludicrous. thei

>> the grover norquist, head of americans for tax reform was very influential especially on tax matterscans have signed the no new taxes' pledge and able to hold their feet to the fire. he retains other influence on spending matter so is important in that group included in national taxpayers union and other groups as well. that will fuel significant defection. remains to be seen how large it will be. there are a large number of conservatives from jim jordan, matt salmon -- >> twitter account >> twitter account e >> twitter account lwass >> twitter account on >> twitter account is . thanks for joining us. an update on the debt ceiling agreement. house republicans offering the clean up. it may come up early today. watch the house live on c-span1. >> saturday booktv is live in georgia for the savannah book festival. it starts at 9:00 eastern with gabriel chairman with roger ailes and fax -- fox news and continues on k-9 warriors. astronauts' wives and woodrow wilson. john rizzo on his work for the cia. and the life of norman rockwell. part of the three president's day weekend. march 2nd, b

and americans for tax reform president grover norquist will weigh in on efforts by house ways and means committee chairman dave campo over all the tax code. later a senator chris murphy chairs a subcommittee will discuss the political situation in the ukraine and the u.s. role there. you can join the conversation on this book and twitter. washington journal each morning at 7:00 eastern on the c-span2. >> i think there are some myths out there. people think the maraschino cherry is some miraculously preserved product, and it is really not. it is no different than a pickled cherry and the bryan process is no different than the types of, you know, sulfates you use in making wine. really, it is -- i would not call at a healthy product, but i would call it something that is a tasty treat. >> in various stages of the process. the cherries that come in, even though we put them in water, there will still have bryan in the fruit. they will go through an extensive washington get the bryan, the sulfur, and the calcium back out. the practice of making maraschino is basically you are taking a brine

americans for tax reform president, grover norquist, will ieigh in. way you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. washington journal is lied each morning on seven eastern on c-span. chuck hagel announced that the pentagon will reduce the size of twoarmy from 522,000 the 2015s part of budget cuts. dempseygel and martin spoke for about an hour. >> good afternoon. let me ignore to thank chairman dempsey and the vice chairman and the cheeks and secretaries who are here as well as the and our acting assistant deputy of defense. the work they have put in over the last few months in particular to get us to this point where we can have a budget present to going to congress next week. i want to talk a little bit about that today. remarks dempsey has his . i am very grateful. i know president obama is very grateful to these men and women who spent an awful lot of time and the people that they represent and the services. thent to acknowledge comptroller. this be his last budget, unless we call him back into duty after he goes to find an island somew

that is the grover norquist pledge you can't close a one loophole in the taxes for the oil and gas funds help reduce the deficit. >> my question is if you go back a little way in history when is the last time we actually had a balanced budget? >> in 2001. >> and in fact the last time we had a balanced budget for a very long period of time was 1999, 2000 and 2001 and just so everyone understands for decades before that we were running decades and obviously since 2001 we have run deficits. now doctor elmendorf, if you look at the revenue as a percentage of gdp during that period of time, they are hired in each of those years than they are today is that right? >> that's right congressman. >> and they are higher than each of those years than they will be as a percentage of the economy ten years from now. >> my calculation is the average amount of revenue as a percentage of gdp when we balanced the budget it was 19% of gdp. the average amount was 19% of gdp. now you testify that the main reason that we are going to see an increase in the deficit in the out years is because we have tens of mil

norquist, grover norquist joined me in a press conference on legislation i have to fix that. mr. chairman, i appreciate your dealing with this issue. i appreciate your courtesy allowing me to be with you and i hope you can help shine a light and we can have this important conversation. >> thank you for joining us. just one thing. i'll point out, i showed this schedule today and i'd heard the president say that congress was -- had to resolve this matter. the staff and their briefings to me said that, actually, they have the authority to change that without congress. >> absolutely. >> so that's something i want to get into with mr. botticelli and where they intend to go on this. some good points. let me yield now to the gentleman -- also not part of the panel, but came to the hearing, thank you, mr. cohen from tennessee. >> thank you, mr. mica. first i want thank you for allowing me to participate and enjoyed serving you should you on transportation committee, and secondly, i'd like to incorporate a reference all of the things that have been said and politically correct on this iss

norquist, grover norquist joined me in a press conference on legislation i have to fix that. mr.hairman, i appreciate your dealing with this issue. i appreciate your courtesy allowing me to be with you and i hope you can help shine a light and we can have this important conversation. >> thank you for joining us. just one thing. i'll point out, i showed this schedule today and i'd heard the president say that congress was -- had to resolve this matter. the staff and their briefings to me said that, actually, they have the authority to change that without congress. >> absolutely. >> so that's something i want to get into with mr. botticelli and where they intend to go on this. some good points. let me yield now to the gentleman -- also not part of the panel, but came to the hearing, thank you, mr. cohen from tennessee. >> thank you, mr. mica. first i want thank you for allowing me to participate and enjoyed serving you should you on transportation committee, and secondly, i'd like to incorporate a reference all of the things that have been said and politically correct on this issue

that's the grover norquist pledge.ou can't close one loophole, taxes for the oil and gas can do hedge funds or to help reduce the deficit. and my question, dr. elmendorf, if you go back a little weight in his, when was the last time we had a balanced budget? >> in 2000 or 2001. >> 2001. and, in fact, the last time we had a balanced budget over a very limited time was the years 1998, 1991, 2002001? >> that's right. >> for decades before that, we were running deficits and since 2001 we run deficits. now, dr. elmendorf, you look at the revenues as a% of dvd -- as a percent of gdp during that time. they are hire in each of those years than they are today, is the rights because that's right, congressman. >> and their higher, are they not do, in each of those years than it will be as a percent of economy 10 years from? >> yes, that's right. >> my calculation is that the average amount of revenue as a percent of gdp when the last balance the budget was 19% of gdp. during those four years the average amount of revenue was 90%

that is the grover norquist pledge.e can't clues one -- close one loophole in a hedge fund to reduce the deficit. at my question dr. elmendorf is if you go back a little ways in history when was the last time we had a balanced-budget? >> i think 2001 congressmcongressm in. >> 2001 and in fact the last time we had a balanced-budget over a very long period of time was 2001 is that right? and just so everyone understands decades before that obviously since 2001 we were riding deficits. dr. elmendorf if you look at the revenues as a percentage of gdp during that period of time they are higher in each of those years than they are today. >> that's right congressman. >> and they are higher are they not in each of those years then they will be as a% of the economy 10 years from now? >> yes, that's right. >> in fact my calculation is that the average amount of revenue as a% of gdp when we last balance the budget is 19% of gdp. during those four years the average amount of revenue coming in with 19% of gdp. now you have just test

that's the grover norquist pledge. you can't close one loophole, taxes for the oil and gas can do hedge funds or to help reduce the deficit. and my question, dr. elmendorf, if you go back a little weight in his, when was the last time we had a balanced budget? >> in 2000 or 2001. >> 2001. and, in fact, the last time we had a balanced budget over a very limited time was the years 1998, 1991, 2002001? >> that's right. >> for decades before that, we were running deficits and since 2001 we run deficits. now, dr. elmendorf, you look at the revenues as a% of dvd -- as a percent of gdp during that time. they are hire in each of those years than they are today, is the rights because that's right, congressman. >> and their higher, are they not do, in each of those years than it will be as a percent of economy 10 years from? >> yes, that's right. >> my calculation is that the average amount of revenue as a percent of gdp when the last balance the budget was 19% of gdp. during those four years the average amount of revenue was 90

it is grover norquist for the brothers or worker represent in this particular issue?s at the table. the only way they can do that under u.s. law is to unionize, so what you had with outside forces trying to prevent that from happening. cheryl: if you look at the history and a brothers up at the top of the show, union memberships for her thousand now, 75% for uaw uaw memberships. many businesses will say the unions are killing me. is this good for business? >> i think you what happened with the uaw even though it was 86 votes, it was actually disheartening because the uaw has a making a push to get particularly in the southern states and this was a vote. you don't need outside interest. workers voted their pocketbook. they don't need outside help, they need jobs and made the right decision. >> we didn't have any effect, they wouldn't have done it. clearly that had a huge impact on this vote. >> i look at if this way. if you have uaw trying to pop the way to union representation and every factory the matter if it is cars or any other type of production, they lost and th

that's the grover norquist pledge. you can't close one loophole, taxes for the oil and gas can do hedge funds or to help reduce the deficit. and my question, dr. elmendorf, if you go back a little weight in his, when was the last time we had a balanced budget? >> in 2000 or 2001. >> 2001. and, in fact, the last time we had a balanced budget over a very limited time was the years 1998, 1991, 2002001? >> that's right. >> for decades before that, we were running deficits and since 2001 we run deficits. now, dr. elmendorf, you look at the revenues as a% of dvd -- as a percent of gdp during that time. they are hire in each of those years than they are today, is the rights because that's right, congressman. >> and their higher, are they not do, in each of those years than it will be as a percent of economy 10 years from? >> yes, that's right. >> my calculation is that the average amount of revenue as a percent of gdp when the last balance the budget was 19% of gdp. during those four years the average amount of revenue was 90

the center for worker freedom led by anti-tax activist grover norquist rented bill boards in tennessee blaming the u.a.w. for detroit's financial troubles. tennessee's governor said a union would hurt the state's chances of attracting new manufactures. >> the u.a.w. will not help us bring other suppliers. they said we are going to be much less likely to locate a plant close to chattanooga. >> the u.a.w. has said a solid majority of workers want to unionize, counting on a victory to bring a new labor model to the u.s. and new momentum to the organization. this vote is facilitated through the labor relations. they'll be voting through friday. it likely will be friday night or saturday morning before we know the outcome. >> jonathan, thank you very much. >> the director of the worker institute at cornell university joins us this morning. the old south and the union, what has changed? >> as a matter of fact, there are unions across the old south and there are plenty in chattanooga, as well. there's a large beyondized general motors plant in spring hill tennessee, not far from chattanooga.

that's the grover norquist pledge. you can't close one loophole, taxes for the oil and gas can do hedge funds or to help reduce the deficit. and my question, dr. elmendorf, if you go back a little weight in his, when was the last time we had a balanced budget? >> in 2000 or 2001. >> 2001. and, in fact, the last time we had a balanced budget over a very limited time was the years 1998, 1991, 2002001? >> that's right. >> for decades before that, we were running deficits and since 2001 we run deficits. now, dr. elmendoro

>> the grover norquist, head of americans -- very influential. especially on tax matters. this is a spending matter. he doesn't have exactly the same weight, basically most republicans found their new taxes' pledge, able to really hold their feet to the fire on that. it retains other influence on spending matters but it is important to include the national tax in those groups as well. that will be a significant defection, remains to be seen how large -- there were a number of conservatives from jim jordan on down basically saying they can't put this plan. >> eric wasson's twitter counties e. l. lawson and his website is thehill.com. >> the president and mrs. obama welcome french president fran francois hollande to the white house for an official visit. welcoming ceremony at 9:00 a.m. eastern on c-span3. the obamas host a state dinner for the french president. late night coverage >> the new c-span.org web site gives you access to an incredible library of political events with more added each day through c-span's nonstop coverage of national politics, history and nonfiction