with me now ove grover norquist. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> spending levels are set by congress. paul ryan signed one pledge and one is the most favorite of congress but led the g.o.p. through a budget deal that increases government spending and lots of republicans voted for that bill. what happened? >> obama says the same thing. congress, you voted for this. no, a democratic house and a democratic senate in 2009-2010 voted for the spending. and yes we have to deal with the damage done by the first two years of the all democrat house senate and eight years of bush allow spending to drift upwards. so we have to keep that spending down and step one is don't raise taxes. step two, which bush forget about, stop spending so much money. >> let's pull back to philosophy for a second. you heard my earlier explanation of a prerogative tax system. are you in agreement we should have a progressive tax system where people had the means to pay should pay more. >> certainly not. i grew up in massachusetts a

folks like frank gaffney who believe that antitax pitchman grover norquist is an undercover agent of the muslim brotherhood. justice thomas' wife who believes the government may be secretly backing terrorists. or the panelist who says john boehner is covering up benghazi, boehner is. in right to the far right to the far-out, it's a daisy chain pulling rightward, where even establishment figures like mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham trying to join the crazy. with ted cruz pushing his way through the right wing crowd, calling people like bob dole and john mccain names all the way, anything to get to the hard right frontier where to lead the country he intends to plant his flag. dana milbank is a columnist for "the washington post." and jonathan capehart is an opinion writer, also with "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. gentlemen, this was something. this week went really far right. >> it's always a bit of a circus at cpac when they come to town. and of course everybody is under pressure on the right to provide all the red meat. but this did go further. this is the time w

grover norquist is with the muslim brotherhood. ginni thomas, i don't know her, but a daily caller contributor and wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, she alleged that president barack obama may be guilty of providing material support, material support, like guns and ammo i suppose for terrorism. and at least one panelist at cpac suggests that john boehner was part of the benghazi cover-up. >> yeah. >> this reminds me, you know, of what was it called? the john birch society when they accused the eisenhower brothers milton and dwight eisenhower of being commies. >> right. >> when you start calling boehner part of this, the benghazi cover-up. when you start calling people like grover norquist of the hard right some kind of secret muslim brotherhood guy, you're a full mooner. >> i think they left out the obvious situation going on here, that president obama is controlling the country with fluoride in our water. >> what is the electromagnetic. >> what is the latest variant of that? >> i don't know. maybe it's from using our

[applause] >> a big thank you to grover norquist. what is our funniest guy? >> washington, d.c.'s funniest celebrity. >> stand up here for a minute. grover competes every year and most years he wins. he has drafted me in from august through september. >> you have some extra time. >> i've gone back to watch who has one in many of these cases. these won in many of cases. grover won last year for impersonating dick cheney. and my strategy this year will be to impersonate grover norquist. we look ...

and my strategy this year will be to impersonate grover norquist. we look forward to seeing you all there. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> coming up on c-span, russian 'sesident vladimir putin remarks. later, president obama awards the medal of honor to veteran to her previously overlooked. >> i am delighted to yield to our distinguished speaker. mr. speaker? please use the microphone, mr. speaker. the arguments asset on this floor came to me by complaint of the members. first, they had not been notified. i do not believe that they were notified. i believe that truly they did not yet the mail in their office. sense of youre letter here. i'm inviting you to hear a dialogue on my perception of what american policy and foreign affairs should be. to 1970,go back back 1972. i have thef who intelligence committee. you're going to ask a question as to their policy and how they feel about the vietnam war. a --our beefier widely did you beat your wife lately? angol

without further ado, please derrick thompson with grover norquist.[applause] >> thank you, everybody. one of the themes of the last session was long-term thinking. it was sort of scattered. we'll from the short term to the daveterm starting with camp's plan for tax reform. he had been talking about it for a long time. my understanding is that a lot of members of the republican party have said they cannot support something that raises taxes by this much in a financial institution. what do you see is a positive and a negative? >> the positives are the lower rates. 35% and five percent average at the state level. we are at 40 compared to europe which is 25%. a dentist down toward the 25% average. -- it isost the local a step in the right direction.

and my strategy this year will be to impersonate grover norquist.we loo >> the heritage foundation hosts a discussion on the federal reserve. you can see it live starting at 1:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. will hold a news conference after a federal open market committee meeting. coverage at 2:30 p.m. eastern here on c-span. congressional budget office director doug elmendorf spoke at the atlantic economic summit. this is 25 minutes. [applause] hello, everyone. thank you for sticking around. doug, thank you for joining us. i think we will have a lot to talk about. i wanted to start off, the whole event is about the economy. are you surprised by where we are at this point? >> we have been surprised at the pace of economic recovery. theye looked at crises -- found that those recoveries are very prolonged. relative to the postwar u.s. experience. we put too much weight on the postwar experience. on the rapidht monetary policy response and fiscal policy response. thought that that would be recovery, a v-shaped but a quick u-shaped recovery. in the pas

. >> grover norquist says he has would hamstring capital investment and damage economic growth over theng run. why is he wrong? >> i have not her -- i have not heard that point there. he has keen insight on tax issues. i think i sit will find the code, reducing those rates in a major way, we know this will grow the economy. we believe it will draw more capital to the united states. >> let me give you another critique. it is presented as revenue neutral. this is the committee for a responsible government. it is bipartisan. it praises hard to that. it relies on one-time revenue sources and timing shifts to pay for permanent rate cuts. it could increase deficits in the second decade. >> i think it will be the opposite. it will generate more revenue. add $700 billion in new revenues to help us pay down the debt. cuts can getending us to a balanced budget. >> you think by the second decade it will raise revenues because of the dynamics. >> in the first decade. >> you drew a parallel to the 1986 tax reform under president reagan. one of the differences is that under that measure, the earned i

grover norquist. he has some other things he wants to talk to us about.income tax-free by 2020. we will challenge him on that one for sure. new at noon. march madness in full swing. question for a pro basketball player. seth curie. should they be paid? it is a huge controversy right now. stay right there. another hour of "varney & company" starts soon. ♪ in the new new york, we don't back down. we only know one direction: up so we're up early. up late. thinking up game-changing ideas, like this: dozens of tax free zones across new york state. move here. expand here. or start a new business here... and pay no taxes for 10 years. with new jobs, new opportunities and a new tax free plan. there's only one way for your business to go. up. find out if your business can qualify at start-upny.com charles: i am charles payne in for stuart. grover norquist said in a few decades all 50 states will be income tax-free. he is leading the charge and you can bet this will be an uphill battle. some tech headlines, maybe the machines won't be taking over like we thought. g

and my strategy this year will be to impersonate grover norquist. we look forward to seeing you all there. -- thank you very much. [applause] the food is coming out of and i want to say a special shout out to my friend that c-span. , theyere really hard are about to depart. i want to get these guys food because they are leaving in 15 minutes, and another five people are coming in. these guys back here on the podium, i want to make sure that they are fed. here,'re sitting over you're ugly get festivus of idriss opentable. -- you are not going to get fed, -- annd in opentable 0 open table. they need about the connection between at innovation, economy, and the state. andis on a plane right now, the entrepreneurial state were so good to you would be able to connect by sky from the plane. haveng in the audience, i found a good friend from denver who happens to be a fortune 500 eeo. into safety come president obama -- site seem president obama? ladies and gentlemen, the chairman, and immediate that ceo . lee mcintyre [applause] we're going to have a discu

we have grover norquist with us. i know exactly what you think of the carbon tax, so don't tell it to sharply. just for a second let's assume they got a carbon tax, they get what they want, what with that due to america? tell us. >> make us uncompetitive in the world. all energy and everything that has energy in it, pricing is out of the market. it would be more difficult to compete. stuart: you think there is any chance a carbon tax, do you think there's any chance eventually we will get there? >> i don't believe so. if the democrats were to capture the house of representatives in the next election, we will have a carbon tax. as long as republicans hold the house and if republicans take the senate it is even more certain. no, they will not be a carbon tax. what we just went through was a 15-hour fundraising effort. this was cooked up at one of his come his promise to give $100 million to democrats to promote his global warming series, and this was to make him happy. for the 15 hours the democrats talked, they got $6

grover norquist will give out his sixth republican pick for president.see you back here in two. ♪ falling.ife shares are a simple program into their practices. in a statement, herbalife wrote this, welcoming an inquiry gibbering -- given -- might the spc find? we're joined right now by eric -- our bloomberg contributing editor. this is the activist story of all activist stories. >> they're all involved. they all have been involved. quest that is right. dan loeb has been in the trade. quest carl icahn is still in his far as we know. we know carl icahn and bill ackman did -- do not like each other. herbalife beyond just at this point. quest george soros also. quest there are a lot of big names. it has not gone particularly well for bill ackman. so far. >> not. today may be a turning point. quest spends a lot of money lobbying in washington. the ftc opening up inquiry into this. what might they find? what is he hoping they find? >> i do not know anything about the company more than i read. phil akerman's you is this is a pyramid scheme and should be put out

. >> big thank you to grover norquist. what's our funniest guy, funniest poll? >> washington, d.c. funniest celebrity. >> stand up here a minute. >> grover competes every year and he wins most years in something called d.c.'s funniest political celebrity and he drafted me in. august or -- >> run in december. little extra time. >> i realize i have gone back to watch who's one in many of the cases. one of the winners was john love lovett, president obama's funniest speechwriter and he impersonated ariana huffington. grover won last year for impersonating dick cheney and i think my strategy will be to impersonate grover norquist. see you all there. >> you will be a star. >> enough. >> former federal reserve vice chairman and white house budget director alice rivlin also spoke at the atlantic economic summit. she said the technical glitches with the health care website were extremely unfortunate but enrollment numbers are up and website improved. miss riv list also addressed federal judget, earned income tax credit and u.s. trade agenda. his is just over 30 minutes. >> next up, we have

without further ado, please welcome eric thompson for round two with grover norquist.[applause] >> thank you, everybody. lastf the themes of the session was short-term and long-term thinking. it was sort of scattered, so we will go from short-term to the long-term for the republican party starting most immediately with dave camp's lan for tax reform. he has been working on this for a very long time and does lower rates. it is revenue neutral and my understanding is a lot of members of the republican party say they cannot support something that raises taxes by this much. when you look at the plan, what do you see as the positive to negative in the space to look forward question were >> the positives are that he lowers rates and begins to get us down the corporate income taxes plus a five percent average at the state level. compared to europe, their averages about 25%. local,u count state and we are still above zero. it is revenue neutral at on a desk rise -- not a disguised tax. harry reid says they want a trillion dollars and want tax reform to drive a tax increase. he

the joke about having a cameo role somewhere, you and grover norquist.ou're the most powerful guys around the town. tom donohue also helps run the town, the u.s. chamber of commerce. very powerful guys. and john engler at the business roundtable and others have been doing so much. i cannot imagine the business roundtable, the u.s. chamber of commerce, and the afl-cio all lined up saying more infrastructure is vital for the country. we are eating our seed corn, and we are not taking this seriously. you are all on the same page. why has your performance in that terms of so few results? -- why has your performance in that been so pathetic in terms of so few results? >> because it is not about solving problems. it is about ideology. you have a small group of people that say, country, be damned. we will not raise taxes. it cost you $22 billion a year if you are in business just waiting, because of bad roads, business, and things of that sort. intermodal means of transportation that do not connect with one another. it cost you another $20 billion a year if you

[applause] a big thank you to grover norquist. what is our funniest guy? >> washington, d.c.'s funniest celebrity. >> grover competes every year, and wins most years. in.as drafted me >> you have until election time. >> i have gone back to see who has been the winner in the past. 'shn lovett, president obama funniest speechwriter. he impersonated arianna huffington. grover won last year for impersonating dick cheney. my strategy this year is to impersonate grover norquist. look forward to seeing you all there. thank you very much. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] time.k tv in prime tonight, a look at technology and privacy concerns. at 8:00 jarret cohen and eric schmidt on "the new digital age .">> good afternoon. angwin, author of "dragnet nation." and peter w singer, who wrote "cyber security and cyber war," tonight, american history tv, a focus on the presidency. a conversation on the personal crises of u.s. presidents. ronald reagan's health issues and the monica lewinsky scandal dur

and americans for tax reform's grover norquist. fcc commissioner mignon clyburn. live coverage starts at 9:00 eastern. , the state of israeli palestinian negotiations. saeb erekat. wallng up this hour, " street journal" reporter jeff generalwill talk about motors recall of 1.6 million vehicles because of faulty ignition switches. and harry holzer on president obama overtime rules changes. we will also look at today's news and take your phone calls. >> i have signed a new executive order that expands the scope of our sanctions. i'm authorizing sanctions on russian officials and those operating in the arm sector in russia and individuals who provide material support to senior officials of the russian government. to interferetinues in ukraine, we stand ready to .ost further sanctions e ♪ host: president obama announcing the sanctions yesterday. today, we will get the official response russian president vladimir putin. good morning. the white house

from td ameritrade >>> it's a program supported by everyone from grover norquist to mark zuckerberg. the driving force is someone who's been a major figure in washington for 35 years. here's our power player of the wee week. >> everybody else in high school class has access to these wonderful college aid programs that the united states provides. the dreamers are eligible for none of that. no state aid, no nothing. >> reporter: donald graham is co-founder of thedream.us. the nation's largest college scholarship program for young people brought to this country illegally by their parents. >> very hard to settle for just being another generation without education. and i'm tired of it. >> reporter: an estimated 65,000 undocumented students graduate from high school each year. >> i'm not wise enough to know what the united states immigration policy should be. i think it's better for the country, as well as for them, if they have a chance to become nurses than to work in the shadows all their lives. >> reporter: he's talking about young people like alicia who was born in mexico. >> this sch

it was moderated by frank gaffney, the man who says antitax crusader grover norquist has ties to thebrotherhood. at the conference he was caught on a hot mic discussing president obama's 2009 speech in cairo. here is what general boykin said with the mic on. let's listen. >> your understanding anything about islam, there are subliminal messages, his message was really, i understand you and i support you. and i think what you've seen here as a result of that, you've seen al qaeda the muslim brotherhood and everybody else absolutely taking advantage. right, right. absolutely. they're taking advantage of this opportunity. they see they have a president that has been supportive of them and is unwilling to go against. >> what is this subliminal message when you're speaking? when you're speaking words, would it be subaudible? is it something you're not hearing? >> e.t. message. >> what is a subliminal message the president is sending to al qaeda that he is really on their side and this is code? i think this is almost like stuff coming out of your teeth, this kind of talk. >> it is. >> tran

you know, grover norquist trying to say we only took up so many billboards, we only ran so many ads.ine if the nlrb doesn't step in on stuff like this floodgates will be open and this is the new enemy of unions and the new tool against american workers. they're not happy until everybody's working for seven bucks an hour, that's what it comes down to. >> exactly. every union election will turn into like a citizens united style campaign where you have money coming in on both sides i'm fearing that the worker loses in that because, look, between have that kind of money. we can't counter the corporate dollars out there every time. if the corns are allowed legally to weigh in through politicians and other ways to infiltrate what should be a sanctioned process what should be a clear, legal, and safe route for voters to go, really unscathed by outside influence, to allow that to be infiltrated and infected, tainted with this outside political money is going to be a disaster. i really fear for the future working people. again, i think we've got to be ready to fight and stand up, like the for

people are, even the folks who are now voting against cannabis be legalization, you know, when grover norquist tells them that higher taxes are bad, in colorado the republican legislature -- all of whom were against legalization -- all voted for the low arer tax because taxes are bad. which is the reason if i were running the state system, i would do it as quantity limitation and an auction on production rights. it's not a tax. gets you the same place. so this is my cannabis cap and trade. [laughter] but i just don't see any reason to think that we're not currently on a track to have very cheap cannabis. and if it's very cheap, it almost doesn't matter how heavily it's marketed. >> well, i want to open up to the folks in the audience. i'm sure you've got some questions. and we have a microphone, so please, this gentleman right here. we can start. state your that tame and your afill -- name and your affiliation if you've got one. >> this is david borden with stop the drug war.org and the drug war chronicle newsletter. my question has to do with the idea that marijuana could be a substitute for

grover norquist of the hard right some sort of secret brotherhood guy, you're a full mooner. >> i think they left out the obvious situation going on here, that president obama is controlling the country with flower ride in our water. >> what is the latest variant of that? >> i don't know. maybe it's from using our cell phone taos much. you see what is going on here, as we were saying, the establishment has been coopted by the tea party. so what do the guys who were the tea party, the ted cruzs, the louis gohmerts, what do they do? well, you have to stay one step ahead of this parade now and i think that's what is causing that. saying cpac isn't conservative enough. we've got to go further. we've got to go in the direction of the magnetic pulse. >> you guys take sides a little bit. what ask this thing with the dynamic out there? because they're not going towards winning a presidential election. they're going towards winning something. i think cruz wants to get to the farthest right rail, because he believes in the race that is coming the next two years that will be the best post position

rick perry, mike huckabee, rand paul, grover norquist. then carson tomorrow.ressives, we want to hear from you. (202) 585-3880. in the mountain and pacific time zones, (202) 585-3881. .ocial media, @cspanwj e-mail to general at c-span.org as well. we will be right back to take those calls. ♪ we do not have a criminal investigation role. we have an enforcement role. securitieshe federal laws, making sure wall street abides by the rules. we also write the rules for wall street. we do not have the criminal authority. we have the power to bring the approval of our commission, civil fraud action and negligence actions against those who violate federal securities laws. we cannot send anybody to jail but we can assess civil buildings. our level of penalties is not as high as we would like. there is some legislation in congress to give us the ability to assess higher penalties. we can require those to disgorge their ill-gotten gains, the profits from their wrongdoing. we have the power to bar somebody from the securities industry so that they cannot live another day t

as enthusiastic as people are -- even the folks now voting against canibus legalization, when grover norquist tells them higher taxes are bad, the republicans in the administration, all of whom were against legalization, when it games to vote on taxes, all voted on the lower tax because taxes are bad. which is the reason i wouldn't do it as taxes, i would do it as an auction on -- otchings on production rights. it is not a tax. it gets you to the same place. a canibus cap and trade. i don't see any reason to think that we are not currently on a track that has -- to have very cheap canibus. if it is very cheap, it almost doesn't matter how it is marketed. >> i want to hope up to the folks in the audience who have some questions. if we have a microphone, so please, this gentleman right here, we can start. state your name and affiliation if you have one. >> this is david gordon, the chronicle newsletter. my question has to do with the idea that marijuana could be a substitute for a use of alcohol. people like me attended to assume that it is. > so suppose it turns out that -- could a commerciali

[applause] the president of the americans for tax reform a, grover norquist.ause] bernard kerrick, the former new york police commissioner. [applause] we will discuss the consensus among conservatives that the criminal justice system is broken and in need of repair. crimes, topansion of the height reset a schism rate of 40% to the cost of our prison conservatives concluded that our system is out of control. think of the resources wasted on a witchhunt against scooter libb he and ted stevens. it was not until after he had been defeated for reelection and .as replaced think of the swat team that rated gibson guitars. why did they need a an armed team to raid a business? who knew fish or wildlife had a think of the widening net for crimes in which we incarcerate people. transpose numbers on the epa. inadvertently mislabeling a shipment of orchids. there has been an alarming increase in the scope and authority of government. you would think a agents would have enough trying to catch terrorists and murderers and drug kingpins. lock people up. there are dangerous pe

that is followed by a conversation with grover norquist about the midterm elections. on the next "washington journal," a member of the american enterprise institute discusses republican efforts to get younger and minority voters. halperin discusses a potential hillary clinton presidential run. airport on transparency in the obama administration. -- a report on transparency in the obama administration. "washington journal" is light every morning at 7:00 on c-span. the center for strategic and international studies hosted a conversation about rush on wednesday. .peakers include bob schaffer live coverage at 5:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. the health care problem in the united states is owing to continue and it will not go anywhere. if we do not deal with the issue of innovation, if we do not translate all of those findings that occur at the pharmaceutical industry, at the university level, into health care products which are affordable and treat disease enters them, -- and nots them, as long as we do do that there is no point in talking about the solution of the healt

the joke about having a cameo somewhere, you and grover norquist.you're the most powerful guys around the town. tom donohue also helps run the town, the u.s. chamber of commerce. a very powerful guys. and john engler at the business roundtable and others have been doing so much. the businessine roundtable, the u.s. chamber of commerce, and the afl-cio all lined up saying more infrastructure is vital for the country. we are eating our seed corn, and we are not taking this seriously. you are all on the same page. why hasn't your performance in has been so pathetic -- why your performance in that been so pathetic in terms of results cap a >> because it is not about solving problems. it is about ideology. you have a small group of people that say, country b. ee will not be -- country, b damned. we will not raise taxes. yearst you $22 billion a if you are in business just waiting, because of bad roads, business, and things of that sort. intermodal means of transportation that do not connect with one another. it cost you another $20 billion a year if you

[applause] next, the president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist.applause] and third, former nypd commissioner. we are going to discuss the growing consensus among conservatives that our criminal justice system is broken and in need of major repair. abusive prosecutions to the rampant expansion and a number of crimes to the high recidivism rate of over 40% to the exploding costs of our state resin systems, the second fastest growing part of the state budget second only to medicaid. conservatives concluded that our system has spun out of control. think of the resources wasted on on scooter libby, the duke lacrosse team, senator ted stevens. even though his conviction was overturned, it was not until after he had been defeated for reelection and his replacement cast a deciding vote to pass obama care. think of the swat team that rated gibson guitars. armedd they need an militaristic team to rated business? were they afraid they were going to flush guitars down he toilet? who knew fish and wildlife had a swat team? think of the widening net of crimes f

perry, mike huckabee, rick santorum, rand paul, and grover norquist are among the speakers.nt hear from conservatives only.

let me say a few words about grover norquist. the president of americans for tax reform.he has been called on 60 minutes the most powerful man in washington. how many of you watched stephen colbert air, the "colbert r eport." colbert had him on with many occasions and said, imagine we have taken all of our grandmothers. all of our grandmothers, and we are going to put them in a container underground and smother it with honey. and unless you agree to raise taxes, we are going to let out the fire ants. and go after our grandmothers. he said, will you give in to raise taxes. grover said, we have a lot of memories and photos, and we will rest well. just on this one thing. he was in my office of the new america foundation and he stopped in on one occasion, he had this big lack case. the top of the case i just happened to see, it was the oath, the oath signed by stephen colbert air. he got stephen colbert to sign the oath. but can you imagine? i never look in the case, but to have that case with all of your secrets sitting in my office for at least a day and a half. i thought i

the two things i was struck by was there was a criminal justice panel that rick perry and grover norquist. and a lot of talk about mandatory minimums. someone talked about marijuana, decripp decriminalization. those issues were new, i thought. there's a little push there. the second thing i thought from both the people we talked to were grassroots and if you think about the wave of gay marriage rulings in the country in favor of that, i thought this congressman had a the lot more criticism of activist judges or talked about traditional marriage. that issue was not discussed very much. i thought it's interesting can the republicans move toward a more libertarian view on that? talked about religious liberty more, banning gay marriage less. those are the two things, and of course the other thing is lots of talk about fiscal issues. everyone talked about fiscal issues very much. very little to talk about the ukraine, our big issue in the news this week. no -- very little foreign policy at cpac. >> we had george allen, steve forbes, the list of people who have won cpac and gone nowhere. and ro

grover norquist the most powerful guys in town. tom donohue also helps run the u.s. chamber of commerce and the very powerful guy. john engler and others have been doing so much. i can't imagine the business roundtable and the u.s. chamber of commerce and the afl-cio lined up saying more infrastructure in is vital for the country. we are eating or seed corn and not taking this seriously. we are all on the same page. why has the performance in that been so pathetic in the sense of so few results in the political system? >> because it's not about fact or logic or solving problems. it's about ideology. you have a small group of people out there that say we are not going to raise taxes no matter what happens. we are not going to increase revenue. the infrastructure, to bed. this used to be a no-brainer. it was never partisan issue. democrats republicans got together and did the infrastructure in the country. it cost you out there $22 billion a year if you are in business just waiting because of bad roads, bridges and things of that sort, intermodal means of transportatio

he was on with bernie kerrick, of new york, and grover norquist.prised at some of your democratic listeners. they were talking about getting rid of mandatory minimums, reducing recidivism rates. these are things they were doing in texas. rick perry was a great master of that. i would encourage anyone, especially democratic listeners, to go on the c-span website and check that out. i was surprised by what i heard. host: did you listen to his speech as well? caller: i did. i thought that was great. he got the crowd going. he seemed kind of sedate, but we learned afterwards that he had just had back surgery. but i think he is back. he might surprise us in the coming years. host: all right. let's show our viewers a little but of what the former texas governor had to say. rather, stepping down as governor. governor rick very, from texas. [video clip] electt is why we need to the right leaders to washington. leaders who believe in free market. not in a bigger federal government. leaders who respect the freedom of the individual instead of depriving them

what was your message, grover norquist?> it was a beautiful take away. >> the discussion is about sequestration. and the point that i wanted to make was that -- and dr. ash carter was there, as well. >> the secretary of defense, yeah. >> you have to think your way through that. you can't air drop that in and say, beginning today, we're going to build 90% of the next ship. that is a long -- >> nobody really believes that would happen. i think that violates what -- >> no, but he said they lost $1 billion on a given project because they've got unfunded in the middle of it. it's a real issue. that's a bad day. you lose $11 billion on a commitment. >> the whole issue is not about whether the funding level is appropriate or not, but the mechanism for setting priorities. and that's the expectation, that it was arbitrary. >> jeff, real quick, any conversation about privacy concerns sort of in an edward snowden deal? "the washington post" reported that the government is now able to record all conversations for 30 days, almost like a