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i never signed the grover norquist tax pledge. i am not a big taxer but i never signed the pledge that i would never do anything even if the country was facing a disaster. defense is dropping every time the world is becoming more dangerous so you will have to fix the entitlements and do something. i think doing the right thing will be the best prescription. there are a lot of good people here who work hard and care deeply. but i think doing the right thing -- we need to save this country. economically. we need to get control of the debt and deficit and there are tough votes there. i was the supporter of the simpson bowles commission. the longer you put it off, the tougher it is going to be. these are difficult times for the congress but there are a lot of good people who care deeply. we need more bipartisanship. i am a conservative and he is a moderate, let me put it that way. but we like each other. and we still like each other. i think you will need to find a little bit more. but these are difficult times. and i think the americ

every major religious group in america supporting our efforts with the old drug conservative grover norquist tuesday we will do something about a broken immigration system that under though lot of lovely and it is not enough. june 272015 the republican-led house of representatives has not only failed to have a hearing refused to bring in the immigration bill to the floor. their refuse to address the obvious way to come up with a fair solution and they refuse to act and it is within their power as it has been every day but for a year and a half the house republican leadership has refused they would tease us time and again to put on a list of principles and tell you maybe we would support something maybe were to have strong border enforcement they said these things and have done nothing. and to save your not going to use your army may i borrow it? that house republicans refused to address immigration almost entirely with one exception. it was done the most hateful pieces of legislation that said before their adjourned in august passed in asia with all four members refusing to vote for it to. w

grover, norquist, the club for growth, the aclu, all of them, chuckling.ell you, when the election is over and we're headed for a $20 trillion debt, going out, useless to us, and going to other countries so they can do their infrastructure and educate their kids, somebody will wake up along the line and hopefully it will be the republicans. >> senator, on wednesday morning, the starting gun will be fired for the 2016 cycle. do you think that there is a possibility that republicans victorious on tuesday night will have beer muscles and will say well, see that, all we need to do is stick to our conservative roots and then nominate a candidate that is incapable of winning in 2016. >> i really don't see that. i think that they will be juiced up, but there isn't any way that they are going to go out and drift off to say well now we've proven that we got rid of all of these moderate republicans, that isn't going to happen in this election. you're going to find -- you're going to find people who are willing to say that the word compromise is not a four letter wor

grover norquist's, it depends upon what president obama does. i mean come on. all of these things that the republicans have been complain being for four years have been around for four years. this is the opportunity and that is what this was, which leads me to believe this was an election that was lost by democrats who could not defend their position because the republicans on all of these issues that you just talked about, immigration, obamacare, tax reform, keystone pipeline, we do not actually have a counterproposal on the table. >> tar a? ? >> i could not agree more. and i would say the republicans have spent the last few years demonizing the president and his policies and not offering any viable alternative. the next somehow magically they are going to begin to compromise, i think, is naive and first of all, when you look at some of the big issues, infrastructure, one of the biggest issues facing this kuntz ce, we have bridges in this country that are being hit by container ships that need to be repaired. that's dangerous, untenable. the head of the chambe

first of all, there is no conceivable grover norquist on the left. has that influence, who gets republican legislators literally to sign contracts. >> tom star? >> but he didn't do it. joe, he didn't do it. he was asked to do it in the case of mary lands rue. he didn't. >> wait, are we suggesting tom starr doesn't have as much as grover norquist who gave millions of dollars or billions. >> it is inkrabl comprable. this is no one submitting contracts for legislators to sign bineing tear votes forever locking them down on a question forever. no such thing. >> so you are basically saying lawrence you don't think the democratic party will be dragged too far left? >> what have they done? all they've done is keystone the president says he has process he wants to play up there is litigation going on in one of the states relevant to whether this thing can be dropped on the roof. >> lawrence, it defies logic. you know it does. this pipeline makes sense. it's not going to create a zillion jobs. just on the margins, it's environmentally safer. >> so the environ

we had support, we had a letter from grover norquist and newt gingrich, and just different conservatives and others that you would otherwise think they're just completely against this. but i think people are saying not only has our prison system and socially irresponsible, it's been fiscally irresponsible as well. i was telling the group in the green room that just this year alone, our legislature passed a budget of $9.8 billion for our prison system. which serves about 130 plus thousand people. we only past $9.6 billion for our cal state system which serves about five, 600,000 students. we are close on a path or have been on a path that we scare ourselves. in the '80s and '90s it was tough on crime. you are elected if he said tough on crime, right? we scare the public into believing all these myths about super criminals in the whole deal, but i think now conservatives and democrats and everyone are saying, you know what? it's no longer this idea tough on crime. we actually need to be smart on crime. if you're conservative, right on crime. and we are seeing a transition. >> do you share

we had the ultra-conservative grover norquist supporting this, and liberals as well, came together and said finally we're going to do something about our broken immigration system. but under the law of the land, passing the senate is not enough. the measure was then sent over to the house of representatives. june 27, 2013. today, november 19, 2014, the republican-led house of representatives has not only failed to have a hearing on this bill, has refused to bring this bill to the floor, has refused to bring any immigration bill to the floor. they refuse to address the obvious. we have a broken immigration system, we need to come up with a fair solution to it, and they refuse to act. it is within their power to call that bill today as it has been every day since june 27, 2013. but for a year and a half, the house republican leadership has refused to act. oh, they tempted us, they teased us, time and again we're thinking about it, we're going to put out a list of principles that we republicans believe in in the house of representatives, we're going to tell you that maybe we would support

me ask you, what do the koch brothers cory booker and george soros, newt gingrich the aclu and grover norquistee on? >> they agree on criminal justice reform. of all the bipartisan issues that you think could actually get traction this is the one that's moving. the right on crime movement is getting traction as tea party and liberals discover something they can agree on. we have turned into the inkar incarceration capital of the world. >> the koch brothers who of course everybody is talking about, there was some news item they spent millions and millions and millions of dollars and one of their big issues is to get indigents competent counsel and george soros, of course on the other side of the ledger you know, believes the same thing. >> the reason it has become a crisis with americans in prison all of those unparented kids is having an enormous impact on breaking up families. we're depriving people of jobs. when you have a conviction you don't get that job. it's really become the most amazing crisis. i went to see a maximum security prison in pennsylvania two weeks ago. we're doing this afte

representative blumenauer and representative rohrabacher, who were joined at a press conference by grover norquist who of course is the antitax advocate. and their bill, which passed this house, would change federal tax law so that state sanctioned providers can claim deductions and credits as other businesses do. i'm sorry, i said that passed. that did not pass. that is pending. that d pass is a bill would no longer penalize financial institutions because they provide financial services to state sanctioned marijuana operations. you can imagine those operations now must deal in cash because the banks and the financial institutions are afraid to deal with them. so this bill, which is perhaps the most urgent of the bills, did pass the house and i think again shows growing recognition of where the country is and where the house should be eaded. it's worth noting, just hearing the names of the states that have decriminalized marijuana i think makes the case for where the country is headed. this is decriminalization alone. states that have done so, in alphabetical order. have red and blue running right

we had the ultra-conservative grover norquist supporting this, and liberals as well, came together and said finally we're going to do something about our broken immigration system. but under the law of the land, passing the senate is not enough. the measure was then sent over to the house of representatives. june 27, 2013. today, november 19, 2014, the republican-led house of representatives has not only failed to have a hearing on this bill, has refused to bring this bill to the floor, has refused to bring any immigration bill to the floor. they refuse to address the obvious. we have a broken immigration system, we need to come up with a fair solution to it, and they refuse to act. it is within their power to call that bill today as it has been every day since june 27, 2013. but for a year and a half, the house republican leadership has refused to act. oh, they tempted us, they teased us, time and again we're thinking about it, we're going to put out a list of principles that we republicans believe in in the house of representatives, we're going to tell you that maybe we would support

had every major religious group in america supporting our efforts, we had the ultraconservative grover norquist supporting this, and liberals as well came together and said, finally, we are going to do something about a broken immigration system. but under the law of the land, passing it in the senate is not enough. the measure was then sent over to the house of representatives. june 27, 2013. today, november 19, 2014. the republican-led house of representatives has not only failed to have a hearing on this bill, it has refused to bring this bill to the floor, has refused to bring any immigration bill to the floor. they refuse to address the obvious. we have a broken immigration system. we need to come up with a fair solution to it, and they refused to act. it is within their power to call that bill today and it has been every day since june 20 7, 2013. thefor a year and a half, house republican leadership has refused. us, tempted us, they teased time and again to thinking about it. we are going to put out a list of principles that we republicans believe in and the house of representatives. tha