really. >> you know those horrible stories at hotels. >> yeah. >>> when we come back this morning, grover norquistg candidates to the no tax pledge for nearly 30 years. but potential gop candidate jeb bush so far is refusing to sign. grover will join us next. e financial noise financial noise financial noise financial noise ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. >>> welcome back, everybody. grover norquist has been carrying the mantel for the antitax pledge. the major candidates vying for the gop nomination in the 2016 elections have promised to oppose or veto any tax increases. including most recently rick perry. one notable is jeb bush. so far he has refused to sign the pledge. joining us right now is grover norquist. he is the founder of americans for fax reform. thank you for joining us. >> absolutely. good morning. >> are you

than we've been in the past. >> well i'm going to have to leave it there, wade henderson and grover norquista very positive step. i thank you both for coming on the show. i thank you, grover for coming on. pigs are not flying and hell is not freezing over. we all can civilly believe in what we believe in and agree to disagree but be adult enough to stand on what we agree on. thanks for coming and we'll talk, i'm sure in the future. >> thank you, appreciate it. ♪ a romantic fumble at this romantic chateau ... leads to these fine humans. who you take to this eco-lodge ... to get seriously close to nature. then you check in with her at this tropical paradise. before soaring over this castle resort with your father-in-law. who finally seems to like you. life can be like that when you get it booking right. booking.com booking.yeah! what do you think of when you think of the united states postal service? exactly. that's what pushes us to deliver smarter simpler faster sleeker earlier fresher harder farther quicker and yeah even on sundays. what's next? we'll show you. ugh! heartburn! no one burns

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kennedy: from grover norquist to politico, and chris matthews, massive praise heaped you on in the back of the book. >> thank you, kennedy. kennedy: coming up, montel williams, an outspoken supporter and user of medical marijuana, he will tell me the latest place he takes his fight. and bill clinton said he will quit his day job, if and when hillary commands the country, stay tuned for that, next. kennedy: welcome back, former president bill clinton is promising to quit one of his favorite activities, if hillary clinton is elected president. he will stop giving paid speeches, and said he will step down from clinton foundation, if, because there is always a catch, if she asks him to, i am asking the panel about it. party panel. fox business producer, and broadcaster, and jim norton, comedian, host, lover of mankind, and ben dom inic. ben. so, slic willie? >> i really don't believe he will give up the foundation. kennedy: you are calling him a liar. >> yeah, he is saying those nice worries so we'll think it, he is not going to be able to turn down an opportunity to travel the world, see s

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norquist. >> what did grover have to say? >> he said that he met then bruce jenner at an event for friends of abe which is the hollywood secret group of republican actors in hollywood and he said that he found bruce jenner to be a strong reagan conservative and said leave him alone. grover norquist tweeted about that. >> here he is. let him speak. here's caitlyn jenner who told abc's diane sawyer back when he was bruce. let's watch when he was bruce. >> do you think that it would be maybe unsettling for some people in the conservative wing. republican party? >> i've thought about that. >> but jenner insists neither political party has a monopoly on understanding. >> you're going to go to mitch mcconnell and john boehner and ask them to help champion this cause? >> i would -- i would do that yeah, in a heartbeat, why not, and i think they would be very receptive to it. >> matt, what happens if your party runs somebody more mainstream than the voices on the radio which i do think make a lot of noise with the republican side. ev

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very weird to say that people that he was working hand and glove with including paul ryan and grover norquist. >> i remember when the titanic hit a procedural snaffo. i remember when pelosi jumped ship. obama tends to weigh in at the very last minute. he puts it off. he hates massaging the democrats. he hate to sort of beg for votes. he shows it. he has shown them contempt for going on five and six years. >> think about that. he shows up the day before the vote and the morning of the vote. talk about neglect. >> too little too late. i thought they would hand him such a stinging defeat on such a priority. >> i think it speaks to the lack of good council in the white house. you don't send the president into the jaws of defeat. >> he said if you vote against this, you're voting against me. >> and they have. >> like don't mess with the aura. he's a lame duck president. >> yesterday did it feel like this was going to pass. did it feel like it might be advisable to send the president to the hill? >> i think all indications were it's definitely picking up momentum because nancy pelosi had been silen

called for raising taxes, but the scheme called for putting a tax credit to be more palatable to grover norquist to get elected president. he was for the affordable care act before it was affordable care act. when the democrats passed it he became against it. he was for common core, you know, before democrats were for it. now that they're for it he's against this. this guy cannot be trusted. he will say and do anything to get elected, and our state is worse off now than where we were eight years ago when he took the helm as a leader promising to be something different, but he's just more of the same. >> host: thanks for calling. bobby jindal in his second term as the governor of louisiana, served a couple of terms in congress, before that served as the health secretary at the ripe young age of 24 in the state of louisiana. back to your calls. sherman oaks california evelyn is on the line. go ahead. >> caller: hi, c-span and thank you so much for c-span. i have been watching all of these candidates from the beginning and this is just an embarrassment for bobby jindal. he's number 13 now? what's t

and earlier this week, i had a conservative named grover norquist here on my show to talk about similarsten >> locking people up and throwing away the key does not necessarily get you less crime and safer communities. you can keep safety, you can punish crime without some of these mandatory minimums, very long sentences that a number of laws have mandated. >> yeah, mass in-incarceration is one -- >> this is gaining momentum. how can major changes to our criminal justice system improve the bigger problem that you wrote about today? >> welling g, i think indeed we will see progress for simple reason that mass incarceration is expensive. the argument that has resonated, for example one of the leaders in moving away from mass incarceration is texas. and that's not because of a social justice argument or because of an equity argument it's because it's expensive and texas has been spending a lot of people locking up a lot of people and they can let some out of prison and crime rates won't go you. so i think that we will see some progress on criminal justice reform as it relates to mass incarc

cut tax credits when he was governor and brought in more revenue, which goes in the face of the grover norquistce people in new hampshire, it's going to be like a one-on-one every time. i'm really charm, i'm really great and have to not yell at anybody for the entire duration of his campaign, and we'll see if that's possible. >> i think you hit on something. chris christie does not lack for confidence in himself. he does not lack for -- and if you go at least up until bridgegate, what that translated into, was a pretty meteoric rise in american politics. so what christie's looking at when everybody says he has no chance, he's looking at what happens in those debates. if you get on the debate stage, 2012, newt gingrich is running way back, he gets the question about his ex-wife, turns it into a attack on the media, jumps 30 points, wins south carolina. chris christie is saying, get me on the stage and i'm going to have one of those moments where that personality comes through, i hit it out of the park and everything changes for me. any chance that could work? >> no reason not to try it, steve. y

that attention comes from people like newt gingrich and grover norquist and rand paul and the coke brothers and rick perry and eric holder and ralph reid. here is how hillary clinton put it, just last month when she kicked off her presidential campaign with her very first policy speech. there is something wrong when a third of all black men face the prospect of prison in their lifetimes. and an estimated 1.5 million black men are missing from their families and communities because of incarceration or premature death. it is time to change our approach, and it is time to end the era of mass incarceration. we need a true national debate about how to reduce our prison population while keeping our communities safe. this -- i don't think anyone in this room i don't think anyone who is a veteran of this work that we do would have put smart money on that ever happening. so but here's the second point this group has the potential to make good on the promise of smart, effective reduction of over incarceration. and different than what hillary said, you're not debating you're doing. this is a group tha

tax reform was the focus of our conversation with grover norquist. he outlines idea in his book, end the irs before it ends us. also appearing recently was elaine wbry, author of, "be safe, love mom." talking about a being a mother of four military officers serving in a war zone. peter slevin appeared to discuss the biography of michelle obama discussing her life from childhood to the white house. booktv saturdays at 10:00 p.m. and sundays at 9:00 p.m. watch all previous "after words" at our website booktv.org. >> and we are back live from chicago from this year's printers row lit fest. in just a second, steve phieffer and adar cohen discuss their book jimmy, lee and james. it is about the 1965 selma to montgomery voting rights march and events that led up to it. they are joined by two activists who participated in the march. this panel is just beginning. . .

what all true conservatives do when they want to run for president and pledged his feelty to grover norquiste requires never never raise taxes. his fantasy ran into a budget deficit reality. when you cut taxes you need money. he set aside his pledge bit the bullet and raised taxes to get the budget back into balance for the good of his state. what's that? he didn't do anything like that. he's running for president after all, people. what to do in the deep cut that would have been required to get things back in balance were so draconian that universities were looking at mass layoffs and department closures which is no good for a presidential contender. he worked with in order norquist to come up with a complicated scheme that could raise revenue but wouldn't be classified as tax hike. it was this dishonest scheme that allowed his budget to pass yesterday at the last possible moment. here is how one describes it. it's an embarrassing bill to vote for. another republican compared voting for this budget to taking castor oil. bobby is even less popular that the much hated president obama. obama r

that comes from people like grover norquist and rand paul and the koch brothers and rick perry and eric holder and ralph reed. here is how hillary linton put it last month when she kicked off her campaign with her first policy speech. there is something wrong when one third of all black men faced the prospect of prison in their lifetimes. and estimated 1.5 million black men are missing from their families because of incarceration or premature death. it is time to change our approach and it is time to end the era of mass incarceration. we need a true national debate about how to reduce our prison population will eating our communities safe. this kickoff for a presidential campaign. i don't think anyone who is a veteran of this work that we do would have put smart money on that ever happening. here is the second point. this group has the potential to make good on the promise of smart effective reduction and over incarceration. different from what hillary said, you are not dated, you are doing. -- you are not debating, you are doing. there is a lot of talk out there and not a lot -- and no

it was interesting that i was joined by grover norquist, the noted activist who i do not always see io eye with who has been an eloquent spokesman saying the federal government should fix it. i'm hopeful we will in this congress. host: in 30 days, oregon will become the fourth state to allow recreational use. explain the process? july 1, citizens of oregon will be able to grow up to eight plants. carry up to one ounce and possessed of to eight ounces are you january 4, retail sales applications will begin. guest: this shift taking place so we are not interfering with individuals want to take advantage of it, the state has been working in a deliberate fashion to implement and measure that was approved. marijuana in oregon got more votes than any politician other than me on a statewide level. the initiative sets forth provisions to try to make sure it is done in a responsible fashion. the oregon liquor control commission, which has responsibility for alcohol, has had hearings with over 3000 citizens turning out. legislature is trying to do fine tuning. we want to make sure this is done

tax reform was the focus of our conversation with grover norquist. he outlines idea in his book, end the irs before it ends us. also appearing recently was elaine wbry, author of, "be safe, love mom." talking about a being a mother of four military officers serving in a war zone. peter slevin appeared to discuss the biography of michelle obama discussing her life from childhood to the white house. booktv saturdays at 10:00 p.m. and sundays at 9:00 p.m. watch all previous "after words" at our website booktv.org. >> and we are back live from chicago from this year's printers row lit fest. in just a second, steve phieffer and adar cohen discuss their book jimmy, lee and james. it is about the 1965 selma to montgomery voting rights march and events that led up to it. they are joined by two activists who participated in the march. this panel is just beginning. . . you can keep the spirit of lit fest going year round with a subscription to the printers rowjale >> and membership programs. please download the -- download the happened as well as access to the

tax reform was the focus of our conversation with grover norquist. he outlines his ideas in his book "end the irs before it ends us." also appearing recently was elaine lowery buy author of "be safe love mom." she spoke about being a mother to four military officers serving in a war zone. and peter september 11 vin appeared to discuss his biography of michelle obama. he looks at the life of the first lady from childhood through the white house. "after words" airs every saturday at 10 p.m. and sundays at 9 p.m. you can watch all previous "after words" on our web site, booktv.org. >> and booktv recently visited capitol hill to ask members of congress what they're reading this summer. >> this summer i'm reading a black book this thick that i was given when i came to congress. all congressmen were given this book. virtually none of us have read it. it's jefferson's manual. so the rules of the house were written by with thomas jefferson. now, when he was vice president he was over the senate, and he said, well what's my job? we knead some rules here, we n