the cnbc white house correspondent tweets i just spotted grover norquist walking into the rose gardenhe flashed me a thumbs up and seems pleased with what we are about to hear. politico reporting on some of what we are about to hear. some talking points. some bullet points on the president's comments this afternoon on the paris climate change agreement, saying a couple of things. u.s.it undermines competitive jobs. the deal was negotiated badly and extracts meaningless commitments from the world's top polluters. they also say one of the bullet points is the u.s. is already a clean energy and oil and gas later. we can reduce -- gas leader. we can reduce our emissions without the paris accord. ae agreement funds a u.s. -- climate/fund by u.s. taxpayers. and when of the points is the deal accomplishes little for the climate. that we await to hear more from president trump and hear from you as well after his remarks. we will take your phone calls and tweets. ♪ >> steve bannon and reince previous -- reince priebus arriving, in the front row. is expected to announce that the u.s. is withdra

norquist lumped dictatorships with people who are concerned about the climate. i think that's a false comparison. >> groverpeople getting cash. people getting cash. >> so the number on your document, mr. norquist, is $3 billion. $3 billion is what the space station costs, $3 billion is what a very short period of time at war costs, $3 billion is -- is comparable to what it will cost to keep multiple white houses in business over the next couple administrations. it's a lot of money but not that much money. when you think about the future and think about the future of energy, it is not in fossil fuels and that's ultimately a very important part of the climate agreement but a bigger picture, it's the quality of life of future generations. what are you going to do when people leave miami, when they leave galveston and leave norfolk, virginia, because the water is coming. what are you going to do when you have to pay for sea walls in manhattan and here in washington, d.c. >> is that the best use of our resources today, to think ain't generations 20, 30, 100 years in the future, when there's people who need jobs

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coming up next grover norquist from americans for tax reform.e will sound off on this and i'm sure a lot more. cheryl: we've got more breaking news. speaker paul ryan just responding to president trump's decision to withdraw from the paris climate agreement. here is what he had to say, quote, the paris climate agreement was simply a raw deal for america. i commend president trump fulfilling his commitment to the american people and withdrawing from this bad deal, end quote, david. david: president trump talking a little bit about tax cuts while announcing the deal, pulling out of the deal. is tax cutting agenda hitting a major slowdown as establishment republicans in the united states senate reject the president's notion that tax cuts can pay for themselves. by increasing growth. so who is right. joining us, americans for tax reform president, grover norquist. i just had a chance to ask treasury secretary mnuchin about this. >> yeah. david: i specifically asked him what he thought about those people like senator mcconnell, who think they have to

i want to bring in grover norquist, president and founder of americans for tax reform. grover, good to see you. >> hey, ali. >> grover, let's talk about the degree to which this health care bill is a tax reduction bill, which i'm sure you're not opposed to but there seems to be almost more taxes in here than health care. >> well yes because obamacare itself was a trillion dollars of tax increases over a decade about 20 different taxes and they put a stethoscope on top of it and called it obamacare so when you deconstruct obamacare it's tax cuts because obamacare was a lot of tax increases. the other challenge is when obamacare was put in, obama promised the american people he would never raise taxes on anyone who leaearned less than $250,000 a year yet when you look at the tax increase that fund obamacare they're devastating on middle and lower income americans, starting with the eight million americans today who are hit with a $600 to $2,000 tax for nothing. they get nothing. it's the punishment because they refuse to buy or don't choose to buy obama's specified health

is grover norquist. grover, you are taking a stance on the paris climate accord. why?lly you think taxpayer money should be spent on anything, but why this particular issue? grover: first of all, there isn't a paris deal. president obama all by his lonesome agreed with a bunch of other world leaders -- vonnie: that is not quite true. grover: he did not submit that to the senate which is what a treaty requires and that is why it is quite right for trump to say you cannot unilaterally -- let's take it point by point. if you would like you to go to the senate, we know 40 democratic senators signed a letter saying that they oppose the u.s. pulling out of this accord, so if it were to go to the senate today, then what kind of reaction would it get? grover: it would be very interesting because we would then have a vote and people would have to stand up and vote. the deal that they put forward, china is building 350 coal powered power plants. they have plans for another 800. under this deal, they don't have to do anything to restrict their economic growth except a promise tha

. >> meghan: grover norquist believes president trump is in a no-win situation. everybody who hates trump once him to stay in paris. everybody respects him, trust sam, voted for him, which is for him to succeed, wants him to pull out. looks like he's going to pull out of the paris agreement, what do you make of that? speed nomadic >> pete: even though it's voluntary, he effectively is giving decisions to international bureaucrats and taking away from lawmakers here. this is a president who sleeves the islamic threat. that's why they panic about this, they refuse to see islam is the problem and say they want to fight the weather. he says this is a bad deal for america, but we don't need to borrow to the climate change. >> meghan: do you agree that this is a no-win situation? >> mercedes: i think it's a win-win situation for the president. i think it's very clear that president obama went too far from a constitutional standpoint. this is a treaty, this is binding the united states, they did not go through the ratification process. 128 countries did go through the p

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charlie gasparino is here, also grover norquist.could be running late, and he's pushing this back to late summer, some say could be the fall, maybe not even this year. we're waiting on him, of course, but what do you think of that? >> well, what he's going to say is that we need to do it this year and that it needs to be permanent, not just a temporary tax cut as we had with the two george bush tax cuts -- neil: but permanent means 60-plus votes in the senate. that's an uphill climb. >> no, permanent means you need 50 -- neil: they're not going to do that. they're not going to do the deficit, they can't. >> no, no, no deficit-neutral. there are no democratic votes -- neil: i know. they have got to prove that this is not going to worsen the deficit and, of course, the data would be in the eye of the beholder, and the democrats are going to claim holy you know what, right? >> they can. but as long as the cbo and the senate parliament tapes say we're cool, we're cool. you can take all trillion dollars of the health care taxes, the obam

grover norquist is with us from americans for tax reform. concentrate on the taxes. kate all, i -- eradicate all the taxes imposed to finance obama care, that correct? >> hits about all of them. there may be one or two small ones that don't but they all go away. it is about 900 billion to a trillion dollars over a decade. it is a significant reduction in the tax burden. what the president said that wasn't true is what he said that wasn't true when he sold us obamacare, that only rich people will pay these taxes. the taxes we're repealing include obama's taxes on flexible savings accounts. stuart: yeah. >> that you can't use them to buy over-the-counter medicines. 30 million people have flexible savings accounts, and are damaged by obamacare taxes. those are going away. the taxes on health savings accounts, also, hit 20 million americans. this idea that obama, that somehow he was only taxing the kennedy kids and not theories of us was not accurate. it is about six million people, eight million people are paying that penalty tax because they don't want to buy obamacare

grover norquist of americans for prosperity, who spoke on our network earlier today about why movingorthy. we should note that the president is from elaine a campaign promise here today but it also comes on the same day that he has punted a decision to move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. the administration feel this is a way to fulfill a campaign promise. they also feel that this is, for lack of better terminology, a waste of money. they feel that they will meet emissions standards without the paris accord agreement. they also feel that technology will help to innovate any type of climate change. there is skepticism that the agreement will actually help. i can't underscore this enough. when you have big banks like citigroup, morgan stanley, a host of others, all saying that this is a bad idea, this sends the wrong signal to our global sends a very this clear line in the sand. clearly a lot of the preannouncement celebration going on. julia: getting louder and louder. scarlet: you have a question for the former congressman? >> i did. percent years, you've been an outspok

i'm larry, i'm a admitting disappointed we don't -- disappointed we don't have grover norquist on the stage in a bathtub. >> funny you ask, because be i am trying to set up an event with grover. i want grover and vanessa on the same -- [laughter] >> make sure you bring the bathtub too, right? >> yeah. >> great prop. but i just wanted to say i think a lot of what vanessa is talking about is narrative. i don't think that we have created a narrative about taxation that people can understand and gravitate to. the narrative that we've got now is all topsy-turvy. for 30 or 40 years, we've been told -- and the narrative has sunk in -- that if we give people at the top the money, that we're all going to benefit at the bottom. and the only thing that's trickled down, quite frankly, is misery. , what needs to -- for example, and i don't think most people know this, but companies like wall -- walmart and mcdonald's actually have seminars to tell their people, look, if you can't make it on the salary that we're paying you, here are some government programs you can go to. now, the waltons are wort

i know from grover norquist, president for americans for tax reform, he is advocating it shouldn't haveality, they could move on from obamacare and implementing tax cuts. neil: roll of the dice. thank you, very busy breaking news day. just as we were speaking dow at session highs. s&p and nasdaq doing that. if they're worried about i in of this stuff they have a funny way of showing it. that doesn't mean the market telegraphing perfection. it has been wrong many, many times. the sentiment now seems to be we see all the stuff happening, more to the point we like companies whose stocks we're trading. they keep happening, keep performing, keep doing. keep with us, after this. ♪ neil: all right. about an hour away now from hearing president trump on this climate group and whether he's going to stay a part of that accord. patrick michael who was here a little while ago, might have tipped his hand saying he's been invited to that event, a big proponent of that event. he's one of the few selected to the rose garden today. relinquish regan, to you. trish: thank you so much, neil. we're one hour

. >> reporter: talked to grover norquist, from americans for tax reform, a big time conservative leaderhad a few moments with him coming in here to sit. he's happy the president is going to be announcing that we're pulling out of the paris climate accords saying staying in is an ant trap in his words and the ceo opposition to this is overblown. it's not costing anything to pull out of it, so, therefore, it's not that big of a deal for corporate america. see what the full reaction on the way out is, but seemed very happy on the way in, conservatives generally argued that they are skeptical of these international environmental agreements just on a core level, and, therefore, they are going to be really pleased with it. the trump base that elected him in november will be pleased with it. there's a lot of winners in terms of the decisions, but the losers are the folks that lobbied this white house against this move. a lot of the people will be disappointed the rest of the day today and coming months, guys. >> if you are just joining us, awaiting the president to come out to the rose garden

grover norquist that's the plan, it's possible, the republicans will pass it, get the 50 votes they needthat's it. >> by september. stuart: by september, maybe you moved the market there, grover. thank you, see you soon. >> you got it. stuart: another case, another example of the left's con at the point in time of our president, scott pruett on nbc's morning joe, really badgered by the hosts, waenl wasn't able to answer a question. it was a different story when mr. pruitt joined us yesterday. you'll see it next. think again. this is the new new york. we are building new airports all across the state. new roads and bridges. new mass transit. new business friendly environment. new lower taxes. and new university partnerships to grow the businesses of tomorrow today. learn more at esd.ny.gov > >> does president trump believe that the climate is warming? and if he believes that, does he think that human activity creates that warming? >> what the president said he believes the climate changes, obviously. and the paris according the deal to the country, the right promises and the right focus.

i thought that the comment grover norquist weighed to you in your program yesterday was really scaryhe tried to highlight the urgency for tax reform. he had this sort of if it takes 12 months it'll be fine attitude. i think he's kidding himself. the economic data is clearly decelerating underfed is moving forward in the base of it. what we sought is not data dependent. but their goal here is stockpiling for the next crisis. they are going to take every opportunity to mark against them to put another bullet in the chamber towards that goal and the problem is the fed's track record is really forward on this front. they will continue to raise rates until they precipitate a financial crisis or a recession. maria: well, it's been used as pointing out mostly that this economy is not as strong as some people expect come even though we saw earnings of 15% in the first quarter. do you rate the fed rate cut in interest rates will smash an economic recovery just gaining traction? >> absolutely, maria. the data don't support what they are saying for economic dignity by almost all measures peak i

here to break it all down with the president for americans tax reform grover norquist. eople not going to be part even though they are the ones choosing not to be. that's what the mainstream media is not telling you. what else are they not telling the american people. >> repeal of obamacare and healthcare that the republican senate has passed is among other things a 700 billion-dollar tax cut. one of the things that obama was elected promising that he would never and he said this again he would never raise taxes on anyone, anyone who earned more than -- less than $250,000 a year of any kind of tax. obamacare was a collection of about 20 different taxes with a stethoscope stapled to the top of it a trillion dollars a decade in tax increases. 700 billion of those over the next decade go away. almost all of them over time. but, they include taxes that point out how much obamacare hurts the middle class. 30 million americans have flexible savings accounts. you know if you have one of those. obamacare raised taxes on your flexible savings account. 20 million americans have he

grover norquist is with us this morning. fox's senior judicial analyst andrew napolitano will weigh in. newt gingrich is fair and a senator, member of the armed services and committee david perdue joining us as well. the man who killed osama bin laden rob o'neill is here. don't miss a moment of it. breaking has come a desperate search for survivors after flames engulfed a high-rise building. cheryl casone with the latest. reporter: started local time in london the fire commissioner is calling this inferno unprecedented. rescue crews a significant number of residents are missing, but as of now they don't want to say anything about a specific console. authorities are expecting a number of fatalities. first responders rushed at least 50 the dems to local hospitals. the fire breaking out after midnight local time 7:00 p.m. eastern time on the east coast. it quickly spread through the 24 story residential apartment loathing. this is north kensington in london. 200 firefighters, battling throughout the night. here are the live pic

joining us now americans for tax reform, president of, grover norquist. together, how about the republican party coming together in the face of this assassination attempt on representative scalise betting something done? what are the chances this will speed things up? >> i don't know if this will but, everything that is short of shocks the system, say, guys, focus. there is an effort by a lot of outside critics to attack trump, the trump agenda, the republican agenda. while a lot of things have been accomplished, mostly in terms of deregulation, fcc, ftc, a lot of very good progress, the two big things people will be watching, the american people will be watching, did you cut our taxes in a way that creates economic growth, and did you begin to undo the damage of obamacare? now you can get into this, into the weeds whether you abolish it all yesterday. the point is that obamacare does a lot of damage. it has raised people's costs. has harmed people. it has killed jobs. we need to begin to undo it as quickly as we can. stuart: here is wl i'm hearing, grove