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the coming battle over the expiring 2017 tax cuts, starring grover norquist of americans for tax reform. ryan ellis, and damage bunn of the -- daniel bunn of the tax foundation. so come up, guys. all right. i clapped for this group. all right. well, we set you up this morning. there's -- i would argue that there's no more important battle facing the next congress than this battle over the tax cuts. x cut . something the senate can handle. where stand? in terms of republicans, the queens the trifecta. the date of? >> on the sides of the aisle they were planning the difference in areas of prosocial both on the flexing side. there was already 90% agreement explain to people what that is. making less than $100,000 which is vast majority so once you have agreement on that, they are a lot of things you can work with and they are prepared and ready to go. >> is working on this volodymyr. >> is not a complete renewal? >> yes and we don't face it. do anything you have to steal another 5 billion from someplace else. we are not paying for it and that was once obama was in the states. in the presen

grover norquist of americans for tax reform, ryan ellis and daniel bonn of the tax foundation. so come on up, guys. all right. i clock i clock for this group for taxes. all right. well, we set you up this morning. there's i would argue that there's no more important battle facing the next congress than the than this battle over the tax cuts, especially because tax policy is something that the senate can handle with 53 votes as opposed to a lot of the things which require the filibuster. so i throw it up into the group, like where where do things stand? and i mean, obviously in terms of the republicans are thinking about tax policy, they couldn't assume that they were going to get the trifecta to they had to plan for all these different scenarios. or did they plan for the trifecta and are they ready to go? i think plenty of policymakers on capitol hill, on both sides of the aisle were planning those different scenarios. and i think republic gains were certainly looking at a potential of thinking through what they might want, both on the tax side and on the spending side. but i t

inherit the largest budget deficit in history, dreaming out americans for tax reform president grover norquistgreat to have you think of her being here. they say they will live stream weekly updates for everyone to see in terms of what their cutting. what you make of the new department the department of government efficiency. >> i think transparency is extremely helpful, peter gray stated effort that lasted until 1984 but he did all the study and handed it out in the big book. if he released what he found week after week it would've built more support for in the country and people would've realized what the opportunities are. i love the idea of the transparency. maria: president-elect trump has been talking about his economic plans and he wants to extend the tax cuts and have no tax on tips or social security and no tax on overtime. how will you pay for this. do you buy into the idea as president trump has told me that as you cut taxes you can actually broaden the base of those paying in taxes, how does that work? >> he may be saying if you cut taxes more people come to work and therefore you

you know, grover nark, grover norquist did our taxes. i mean, like i made them give me their life's work in 3000 words through lens of what if we put kids first? so that is what we have outside for you today. and i hope that it will not only be informative, but it will fuel your for justice on behalf of children in every area of and politics and life. thank you. how katie, that was fantastic. thank you so much. and katie has agreed to. stay with us for lunch and. signed some books. her books are available for sale, but before we do that, we have a tradition here at the luce center. we have a beautiful mug for you with favorite quote by clare boothe luce s, which is courage is the ladder on which all the other virtues mount. katie i love that katie. thinks thank you. please join us for lunch and the bookselling and the book signing. thank yousarah smarsh a journal. she's a generation

criminalization in america and progressives may arrive at that conclusion for reason different than grover norquist or the heritage foundation or the koch brothers or many evangelical conservatives. uh who we wound up partnering with. uh but if you want to get to the same place, even if it's for different reasons, you can embrace that journey. uh and ultimately, it can lead to a good result on behalf of the american people. and i've also found uh that intentionally seeking out partnershipsith people who you y disagree with on a whole host of issues, but can find common ground onn issue or two and have that be the foundation of your working relationship, you know, in whington and across the country, when, wh you can put progressives or conservatives together or the left and the right center, left, center, right, demrats, republicans, uh who don't noally agree on an issue but come together to try to ss a piece of legislation. i call that a coalition of the unusual suspects. and when you put together that coalition of the unusual suspects, it captures the imagination ofeople in congress, the american

today we'll have an all-star panel with some of the biggest players on tax policy, ryan elliss, grover norquist of americans for tax reform and daniel of the tax foundation. one of the most interesting ventures proposed by the president-elect is the department of government efficiency led by elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. and with two of the smartest people, thinking about this policy. recoding america, how the government is failing in the digital age and how we can do better is the best how the bureaucracies are failing to help the people they're meant to help. and how to make policy makers in the executive branch more accountable to elected officials. on the same topic, you won't want to miss free op scholars with linda miller, how digital i.d. can limit identity theft, protect privacy and reduce welfare fraud in programs. and at lunch, my honor for douglas prize for expanding leadership and progress, to former health and human services secretary alex azar whose operation warped speed developed the covid vaccine that saved hundreds of thousands of american lives and helped to reopen our schoo

counter establishment, and they kept the eye on the rise and for the party which is no taxes.the grover norquistwe don't like unions, reagan, bust the unions, we're good. the democrats meanwhile, the new democrats, like gary hart, were saying most of the new democrats that the stars of the '70s and the '80s were saying, yeah, the new deal is over. the whole new deal thing is over. and by extension the democratic party's connection with working people and labor unions is over. pretty much. so, pretty much you have the democrats and republicans do become the same -- close to a uniparty as they were being charged economically. culturally conservative republicans and the white working class, nonworking class, they're the same in terms of how they treat -- material gangs and social safety nets and all the rest, but we like the same stuff and the same people. so, i'm with them. >> yeah. kurt is freezing right now. you're not. i can see you, you're not buffering right now, rev, we'll go to you quickly. what i was saying in the clip was, you know, everybody complains about the trump tax cuts. waited for