con >> gruber wrote me a -- connie gruber wrote me a letter, it's a full major, mr.er, and i'd just like to read what she said, just one paragraph. with so many wrongs in the world, we cannot make right, i ask you to consider an injustice you can make right. i realize you alone may not be able to amend the support but i can support my efforts to remove this blight mark from my husband's honorable military service record. mr. speaker, it was at a time an issue involving the v-22 that the marine corps did not recognize nor did bill boeing, the manufacturer of the plane, it was called vortex ring state, v.r.s., and where it's where the different, the two helicopter sails can be impacted in a different way. and that's why it -- what caused this tragic accident. on april 8, 2000. mr. speaker, right after the accident the marine corps sent three investigators, colonel mike morgan, colonel ron radish and major phil stackhouse, to arizona to investigate this accident. which was very, very difficult for the marines who were given the responsibility to find out you why this pl

this is to certify that co-pilot brooks gruber, major brooks gruber was not at fault for the accident that occurred on april 8, 2000, maranna, arizona. mr. speaker, this is a journey that i will not stop until we clear the names of these two pilots. the facts are on our side. there is so much more that i could say tonight. i have volumes, mr. speaker. i have the tape that jim furman presented in the lawsuit case. i have a copy of that given to me by jim furman. and i have seen the tape from mike wall ace and "60 minutes." and i have heard the tapes from jim schaffer. there were four planes flying that night and he was in the air, these were buddies, he saw the plane crashed. he has joined us in this effort to clear the names of colonel john brow and major brooks gruber. i want to thank chairman bud mckeon and ranking member adam smith, their loud language to be in the bill that basically says they hope that the marine corps will work to clear the names of these two pilots. and mr. speaker, i want to thank the press that has taken on this effort also. one thing about voltaire, we owe t

he's jonathan gruber, professor of economics at m.i.t. jonathan, when you look at all of the players in this health care state, whether we are talking about insurers or hospitals, companies, big and small, who do you see as the winners and the losers? >> well, i think we have to start with the real winners are the citizens of america who don't have access to fair insurance today but will. i think when you get to the business sectors, i think that basically the people provide health care, the hospitals, the pharmaceuticals, the medical devices, they're winners. this bill tries to have a balancing effect this law tries a balancing effect with some excise taxes that offset how much they win will you they still win. i think the losers are those insurance companies who really made their money off discriminating insurance markets which will be outlawed. so i think it is a mixed bag for insurance companies, some win, the ones that have behaved and offer good products win. the ones that haven't behaved and tried to make money off discrimination a

and this gruber gentlemen from mit attacked a price water house saying premiums would go up 40 percent. he's saying that and now restracting that. >> we could go back and forth on >> rick, you have to admit if you are forced to do more as a company, somehow you have to pay more for it >> you talk about rates that have gone up. >> hold on, we'll not go over old territory. >> hold on a second. if you have to do more as a business, don't you have to pay for it? >> yeah, but you are leaving out something critical in the insurance equation. that is call would balancing the pool. there will be more old sick people. but the reason for the man date it brings younger healthy people. and it works with the equation and how the insurance works . i am a journalist and not a expert. but in california. 2006, there was old and sick people and it was not balanced by the healthier people. you know rick, who will foot the bill will be the u.s. taxpayers. >> that's really the bottom line. >> and in the end, it is the taxpayer that is going to pay for costs. >> unless rick is right. and i think rick has a

ladies and gentlemen, the co- executive chairman of the warriors, peter gruber. [applause] >> wow. fantastic. i remember growing up in boston gardens, the balcony, and obstructed viewing. suddenly, we are talking about this kind of a venue. i want to say that i have a great partner in joe. he is just great, and that is one of the reasons why i think we will succeed, and it is one of the reasons why it will be fun. in a stage in life, i want it to be fun. the other three-letter word starts with an s and ends with a

ladies and gentlemen, the co- executive chairman of the warriors, peter gruber. [applause] >> wow. this is fantastic. i remember growing up in boston gardens, the balcony, and obstructed viewing. suddenly, we are talking about this kind of a venue. i want to say that i have a great partner in joe. he is just great, and that is one of the reasons why i think we will succeed, and it is one of the reasons why it will be fun. in a stage in life, i want it to be fun. the other three-letter word starts with an s and ends with an x, and that is fun, too. the commissioner i have done for a long time. i thank him for being my friend, really, truly. when you start a mission like this, this is the beginning of the beginning of the beginning, and it reminded me of the time when john glenn -- i met john glenn very early in his career, and he was one of the first people to go into space. he was very worried. the soviet union had beat us there, and we had to send somebody up. some are as and when he was sitting on the campbell soup can filled with fuel at the beginning of the mission, what was go

economist, jonathan gruber who helped romney design the plan, said insurance companies supported it becauseot more customers. in the past six years, 439,000 massachusetts residents who didn't have health insurance got it, many with government subsidies to buy it. the state went from 90% insured to 98%, the highest rate in the nation. school program director andrew herlihy enrolled inaise subsidized plan that costs $272 a month. >> i was always that guy who could dunk and was invincible, never got hurt in my life. >> reporter: until he blew out his knee playing basketball. the operation he needed cost $30,000, a cost he was spared because of insurance. >> worth its weight in gold, worth every pen tow me. >> reporter: the penalty for not enrolling can range from $19 a month to $105, depending on income. in massachusetts there is not just an individual mandate to buy insurance. there is also an employer mandate to provide it. almost 80% of employerses do. bakery owner george montillio is among those who don't. >> if we had to put health insurance into our company, that would totally make us un

ladies and gentlemen, the co- executive chairman of the warriors, peter gruber. [applause] >> wow. this is fantastic. i remember growing up in boston gardens, the balcony, and obstructed viewing.

what is interesting -- there is a great jonathan gruber, an m.i.t.omist that the democrats relied upon, said at the time, that health insurance costs would go down by 13% for young people, 30% for seniors. and has since done a complete 180 ask is advising states like colorado and minnesota and and advising them that their costs will go up from 19 to 30%. so it really is exactly what many of us pricked would happen. and he said at the time that -- what he is telling the states now is the mandates and the requirements, to cover all of that, that drives the costs up. >> greta: it would have gone up anyway i. well, health care costs go up, sure. >> greta: >> greta: but what specifically is driving the increased cost with the obamacare over what is the natural progression of increased health care costs? >> most of it comes down to mandate it's. >> greta: meaning what? which mandates? >> certain requirements to essential minimum health benefits that have to be cover bide every plan. medical loss ratios, certain -- so much has to go to health care coverage,

mandate, jonathan gruber. professor of economics at m.i.t.he health care program at the national bureau of economic research. jonathan, thanks for joining us. i wanted to start with this. i was reading over an interview you gave a few weeks ago to website cogged capitalnew york. in a moment of exasperation you said of the romney plan of massachusetts and obama law nationally, you said they're the same "bleeping" bill, except you didn't say bleeping. the idea they're so similar is kind of, well known. i wonder, if that's the case, what has romneycare meant for massachusetts, and can we expect the same thing to happen now nationally? >> yeah, that quote kind of 345id me a legend in my kid's school. what it's meant for massachusetts has been enormous success. basically, the law in massachusetts had two goals. the first was to cover the uninsured. we've done so successfully. covered two-thirds of uninsured residents in massachusetts. our own insurance rate is down 3%, by far the lowest in the country. the second goal was to fix a broken non-group

i think -- and jonathan gruber reports to the state government about this. >> a health economist at m.i.tain trust behind mitt romney's health care in massachusetts and worked on the federal program. >> he's estimating a number of states like colorado, insurance premiums in the individual market will go up by 30% because the law requires the plans to be more financially generous than people normally buy. a lot of the progressive health economists say it's a good thing. we want people to buy comprehensive insurance. >> one addendum here. they have to buy more comprehensive plans than they can currently afford. one reason the premiums can go up is what the plan does is gives somebody who doesn't have much money and has trouble buying comprehensive health care insurance, i don't think the insurance is as generous at the lower levels as you make it sound here. there is a difference between people can't buy insurance that covers what they need and cheap insurance. >> i want to bring in dr. don berwick from the centers for anh care improvement. what are your thoughts about the level of care the