but jonathan gruber admitted it was all a fraud. he said outrageously it was passed because of the stupidity of the american voter is unbelievable. we're going to show him on november 8th that the november -- we're going to show him on november 8th the american voter has had it. they've had it. hillary clinton wants to double down on obama care, making it even more expensive, in fact much more expensive than it is right now. [ crowd chanting ]

that's no surprise to jonathan gruber.e says that was the plan all along. >> obamacare is not imploding. the main goal was twofold. cover uninsurred uninsurred. those have been fixed. it's not a crisis. it doesn't mean the system is collapsing. it's working as designed. >> he is now the baghdad bob of obamaca obamacare. he said it's not imploding as the president called an emergency conference call with insurers. here is a little bit of that. >> the one thing that's been a challenge, obviously, since we passed the affordable care act is the politics of it. because there is a faction of people who are continually trying to root for failure despite the fact that we keep on insuring people and folks continue to get help. so the bottom line is that most people are going to be pleasantly surprised at just how affordable their options are if we can just get them to see for themselves. >> so eric, he says it's politics. you say it's math? >> it's math. no politics at all. the silver plan, not the highest, not the lowest, the most

jonathan gruber, there's another. we didn't forget. i never forgot jonathan gruber. i said if we do this, i'm going to run, and people forget. i said i'm never going to forget jonathan gruber. the architect of obamacare, what he said. we didn't forget. can you imagine? it's a little more than a week before the election, we didn't forget the name jonathan gruber. but the only real stupidity is that shown by politicians to pass this monstrosity over the serious objections of certain politicians and the american voters. job killing obamacare is just one more way the system is rigged. but with what i have just announced, previously, it might not be as rigged as i thought. right? right? the fbi, i think they are going to right the ship. they're going to save their great reputation by doing so. hillary clinton wants to double down on obamacare, destroying american health care forever. she wants to expand obamacare and make it even more expensive. i will repeal and replace obamacare. and we will replace it with a much less expensive plan, and a plan that is much, much bette

jonathan gruber. we didn't forget. i never forgot jonathan gruber. do this we are going to run and his name came up and people forget after a week or two. i said i'm never going to forget jonathan gruber the architect of obamacare. so we didn't forget. can you imagine a little more than a week before the election? we didn't forget the name jonathan gruber that the only real stupidity is that shown by our politicians who pass this monstrosity over furious objection. job-killing obamacare is one more way the system is rigged. but with what i have just announced, previously it might not be as rigged as i thought. what? what? the fbi. i think they are going to right the ship, folks. i think they are going to right the ship. they are going to save their great reputation by doing so. hillary clinton wants to double down on obamacare, destroying american health care for forever. she wants to expand obamacare and make it even more expensive. i will repeal and replace obamacare and we will replace it with a much less expensive plan and that plan that is much,

without further ado, kay gruber. [applause] mrs. gruber: good morning. can everyone hear me ok? if you need me to speak up a little bit, somebody wave their hand in the air. how about now? any better? ok, great, thank you. all right, let's get started. you have been watching a lot of this lately. i guess it is pretty popular. i have to admit, i have never seen it. i am 10 years behind on my own popular culture. i figure i will get to "turn" in 2023 or so. that depends on whether we get this new museum opened up. how about either one of these? [laughter] mrs. gruber: surely you know these guys, although i would argue that one of them does not belong in the same picture. or perhaps this is more your speed? and what about her? if popular culture is any indication, tales of spies and espionage have always captured our imagination. there is something about the romance and danger of covert operations, secret identities, quirky gadgets, codewords, agent numbers, invisible ink, savile row, and fancy cars, and of course martinis shaken, not stirred, which i guess it is a little too early

johnathon gruber. we didn't forget. i never forgot johnathon gruber. if i do this, his name came up and people forget after a week or two. i will never forget johnathon gruber, architect of obama care. and we doesn't forget. it was a little more than a week. we didn't forget the name johnathon gruber. and the only real stupidity is showed by the politicians who passed the monstrositty of certain politicians and american voter. job killing obama care is one more way the system is rigged. but with what i just announced, previously, it might not be be as rigged as i thought, right? right? the fbi, [cheering] i think they are going to right the ship, folks. i think they are going to right the ship and save their great reputation by doing so. hillary clinton wants to double down on obama care, destroying hearn health care forever. she wants to expand obama care and make it more expensive. i will repeal and replace obama care. and we will replace it with a much less expensive plan and a plan that is much, much better. just this year, hillary clinton declared

jonathan gruber, there's another. we didn't forget. i never forgot jonathan gruber.if we do this, i'm going to run, and people forget. i said i'm never going to forget jonathan gruber. the architect of obamacare, what he said. we didn't forget. can you imagine? it's a little more than a week before the election, we didn't forget the name jonathan gruber. but the only real stupidity is that shown by politicians to pass this monstrosity over the serious objections of certain politicians and the american voters. job killing obamacare is just one more way the system is rigged. but with what i have just announced, previously, it might not be as rigged as i thought. right? right? the fbi, i think they are going to right the ship. they're going to save their great reputation by doing so. hillary clinton wants to double down on obamacare, destroying american health care forever. she wants to expand obamacare and make it even more expensive. i will repeal and replace obamacare. and we will replace it with a much less expensive plan, and a plan that is much, much better. just

he says -- gruber.eny the fact that obama care premiums will sky rocket he says the it working as designed. he said the stupidity of the american voter helped the bill pass. he insists surging premiums will impact only small number of consumers. he says anything done at all raising tax penalty for those who doesn't buy insurance. >> the law is working as designed. however, it could work better. and i think probably the most important thing experts would agree on is that we need a larger mandate penalty. we have individuals who are essentially free riding on system. essentially waiting until they get sick and getting health insurance. kennedy: meantime donald trump continuing to hammer of issue on the campaign trail saying obamacare was flawed from the start. >> real change begins with immediately repealing and replacing the disaster known as obamacare. [cheering] that one's not even close. and hillary wants to double up and triple up. what a disgusting situation. and it was no good. it was no good the d

the name, jonathan gruber, the architect, admitted he was sold on lies. his friend had a little cell phone, cell phones are brutal. just like e-mails are brutal unless you want to delete them all. [laughter] mr. trump: unless you delete about 33,000. but jonathan gruber the architect of obamacare admitted it was sold on lies, and talked about the stupidity of the american voter. remember that, the stupidity of the american voter? the only stupidity was that the politicians who ignore the american people and absolutely forced this thing down their throats, hillary clinton wants to double down and make it even worse. that is what is going to happen. me, you have seen what we're going to do. we will have much, much better health care at a much lower price. people will be very happy. extremely happy. and we will take care of those were disadvantaged and cannot afford to do what others can afford to do. we will take care of them better than they are being taken care of now. but you're going to have health care that works, health care companies compete to get y

gruber: thank you, thank you very much. you are a lovely audience. the special exhibit, which i mention will open next summer, will tell surprising stories about the veterans in the seizure of yorktown who walked off the battlefield to create a new world. we knew that james lafayette was an important part of the story, and so we knew we had to get it exactly right. ago, when i was contacted by the staff at the spy museum to give a lecture about james lafayette, we had in our hands the traditional narrative of james, plucked out of servitude to spy on pentagon and cornwallis leading up to the running yorktown, between enemy lines to run information to patriots, and james's impressed with ability, cornwallis sent him on his own mission despite patriots, were james effectively became a double agent, feeding false information to the british while keeping lafayette abreast of the goings in the camp. james was the perfect spy, and effective double agent only caught during the days after the british surrender when cornwallis himself injured into the patriot

unfortunately, i liked him a lot better than jonathan gruber. but jonathan gruber admitted it was all a fraud, and he said, outrageously, that it was passed because the stupidity of the american voter is unbelievable. [boos] mr. trump: we are going to show on november 8 -- [cheers and applause] mr. trump: we are going to show him on november 8, the american voter has had it. hillary clinton wants to double down on obamacare, make it even more expensive. in fact, much more expensive than it is right now. [chanting "lock her up"] [cheers and applause] you know, when people ask me about the crowds, they say it sounds like an ohio state football game, actually. [cheers and applause] .r. trump: sure sounds big you can actually tell a crowd by the sound. you can't imitate that sound. when hillary clinton got up, i watched her today -- oh. [boos] mr. trump: and she had very few people. she walked onto the stage -- i always do this, and today i didn't. i'm always surprised by how many people. it goes all the way into the corners, look at that. this incr

jonathan gruber. there is another. we didn't forget. i never forgot jonathan gruber. i said, you know, if i do this, we are going to run. his name came up and people forget after a week or two. he said i'm never going to forget jonathan gruber, the architect of obamacare. >> that's donald trump speaking live right now up in new hampshire. you heard him at the top of the speech go after the news that broke earlier this hour that the fbi is essentially reviewing now new evidence in the investigation into hillary clinton's e-mail server. trump saying of the fbi he hopes the agency is, quote, willing to have the courage to right the horrible mistake they made, in trump's words. he phrased it as a re-opening of the case. you heard raucus sustained cheers from the crowd in the room. trump clearly capitalizing on this news. he said he was told ten minutes ago. as he gets into the stump speech you heard him say, listen, the rest of my speech will be so boring after he went after clinton on the news. something we are seeing republicans at the highest levels pounce on including

but jonathan gruber admitted it was all a fraud.said outrageously it was passed because of the stupidity of the american voter is unbelievable. we're going to show him on november 8th that the november -- we're going to show him on november 8th the american voter has had it. they've had it. hillary clinton wants to double down on obama care, making it even more expensive, in fact much more expensive than it is right now. [ crowd chanting ] you know when people ask me about the crowds, they know show the crowds but they say it sounds like an ohio state football game actually. sure sounds big. you can actually tell a crowd by the sound. you can't imitate that sound. you know, when hillary clinton got up, i watched her today, oh. and she had very few people. and she walked on to the stage. i always do this and today i didn't because usually i'm always surprised by how many people. look, it goes all the way into the corners. look at that. but when she came on today, she looked at a small group of people. she goes, "wow, wow, wow." that'

unfortunately, i liked him a lot better than jonathan gruber. jonathan gruber admitted it was all a fraud, and he said, outrageously, that it was passed because the stupidity of the american voter is unbelievable. [boos] mr. trump: we are going to show him, on november 8 -- [cheers and applause] mr. trump: we are going to show him on november 8, the american voter has had it. they have had it. hillary clinton wants to double down on obamacare, make it even more expensive. in fact, much more expensive than it is right now. [chanting "lock her up"] [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] mr. trump: you know, when people ask me about the crowds, they say it sounds like an ohio state football game, actually. [cheers and applause] mr. trump: sure sounds big. you can actually tell a crowd by the sound. you can't imitate that sound. when hillary clinton got up, i watched her today -- oh. [boos] mr. trump: and she had very few people. she walked onto the stage -- i always do this, and today i didn't. i'm always surprised by how many people. it goes

remember jonathan gruber? remember the name? i don't forget.onathan gruber, the architect of the bill admitted it was sold on lies. he thought he was talking to his friends, his friend turned out not to be a good friend, his friend had a little cell phone, the cell phones are brutal, just like e-mails are brutal unless you want to delete them all. [laughter] unless you delete about 33,000. but jonathan gruber, the architect of obamacare admitted it was sold on lies and talked about the stupidity of the american voter, right? remember that, the stupidity of the american voter. the only stupidity is that the politicians who ignored the american people and forced this thing, absolutely forced it down their throat and hillary clinton wants to double down, she wants to make it even worse. that's ultimately what's going to happen. and me, you've seen what we're going to do. you're going to have much, much better health care at a much lower price and people are going to be very happy, extremely happy, and we're going to take care of those that are dis

johnathon gruber are, the architect of obama care. from mitt. my uncle was a professor. but johnathon gruber admitted it was all a fraud and he said it was passed because of the stupidity of the american voter is unbelievable. we are going to show him on november 8th. we are going to show him on november 8th, the american voter has had had it. they have had it. hillary clinton wants to double down on obama care and make it more expensive. and in fact much more expensive than it is right now. [crowd chanting lock her up] >> you know when people ask me about the crowds, it sounds like in iowa state football game actually. it sounds big. you can actually tell a crowd by the sound. you can't imitate that sound. when hillary clinton got up, i watched her today. oh. and she had very few people and she walked on to the stage. i always knew this and i am usually surprised by how many people. it goes all the way into the corners. look at that. this is incredible. and when she came on, she looked at a small group of people. wow, wow, wow. that's what i do. she copied me. i don't d

jonathan gro jonathan gruber, the architect of obama care. my uncle was a professor at mit. i liked him a lot better than jonathan gruber, but he admitted it was a fraud, and he said that it was passed because the stupidity of the american voter is unbelievable. we're going to show him on november 8th that the -- november 8th. we're going to show him on november 8th the american voter has had it. they've had it. hillary clinton wants to double down on obama care, make it even more expensive. in fact, much more expensive than it is right now. [ chanting "lock her up" ] >> you know, when people ask me about the crowd, they never show the crowd, but they say it sounds like an ohio state football, actually. sure sounds big. you can actually tell a crowd by the sound. you can't imitate that sound. you know when hillary clinton got up, i watched her today. oh, and she had very few people, and she walked onto the stage. i knew this, and today i didn't. i'm always surprise bid how many people. it goes all the way into the corners. look at that. incredible room. when she came on, she

mit's boy genius john gruber, he was avatar for all of this.nd special place in hell is deserved for him. harris: thank goodness for his transparency is nice way to put it. >> a little late. that was the problem. harris: give us idea certain things happened. >> we knew from the beginning. we didn't need john gruber. kennedy: free fall in slow motion. president in 2013 said premiums have gone down because of competition. he tried to say because of greater choice. now the insurance market is bert and better for most americans but the interesting thing is, democrats don't care if this fails because what it does, pushes everyone toward a single-payer system which is what they ultimately want. >> that's correct. kennedy: fix now is more people on medicaid. some sort of a tax credit but that doesn't fix obamacare. that is admission of failure. harris: doctors with medicaid folding in medicaid for aging population know they are not willing to take it. you have a whole lot of people as lou said who will get stuck. what is president obama saying? he is

remember the name jonathan gruber, the architect of obamacare? he said they could pass obamacare.e didn't know he was being recorded. he said they could pass obamacare because the stupidity of the american voter will allow it to take place. >> peter barnes, senior washington correspondent for the fox business network is here with the rate hikes in the key swing state of pennsylvania. hi, peter. >> hi, brit. this swing state has the second highest projected increase for premiums in the obamacare exchanges. 20 electoral votes there. so critical and the jump of 53% would be for the silver plan more than double the average for most people in other states nationally. now, the numbers of insurers participating in obamacare there is falling from 13 percent to 8%. use guilty numbers from the administration. a 27-year-old keystone voter will see his or her average premium in the silver plan jump from $213 a month to $327 a month or from about 2500 bucks a year to $4,000 a year. it will be different amounts for different voters and families and the plans they choose, of course, but the trnd

jamestown-yorktown foundation curator katherine egner gruber describes how the enslaved patient gainrmation together to help the american cause at the decisive battle of yorktown in 1781. the smithsonian associates and international spy museum

that's not going to happen. >> jonathan gruber, thanks so much. >>> coming up, iraqi forces closing inthey get closer to the city, families are fleeing isis to nearby villages. we will take you to the front lines next. i'm hall of famer jerry west and my life is basketball. but that doesn't stop my afib from leaving me at a higher risk of stroke. that'd be devastating. i took warfarin for over 15 years until i learned more about once-daily xarelto... a latest generation blood thinner. then i made the switch. xarelto® significantly lowers the risk of stroke in people with afib not caused by a heart valve problem. it has similar effectiveness to warfarin. warfarin interferes with vitamin k and at least six blood clotting factors. xarelto® is selective targeting one critical factor of your body's natural clotting function. for people with afib currently well managed on warfarin, there is limited information on how xarelto and warfarin compare in reducing the risk of stroke. like all blood thinners, don't stop taking xarelto without talking to your doctor, as this may increase your risk of

gruber, what do you have to say about obamacare? it looks like it's imploding, right? imploding. 22% increase, let's remember who that applies to. that applies to a very small fraction of people who have to buy insurance without the subsidies that are available. it's not a crisis. it doesn't mean the system is collapsing. the flaws you are seeing now or the premium increase you see now are the natural dynamics of a market as it transitions to its new state. once again, there's no since of what has to be fixed. the law is working as designed. however, it could work better and i think probably the most important thing experts would agree on is that we need a larger mandate penalty. >> i just turned the volume down when he starts talking because he says lack of transparency is the way to get the thing passed. he's not being truthful. how can we trust him? >> look at what he recommended. the people who aren't eligible for subsidies, middle class for the most part, they are the ones screwing up the system by not taking it, by the way, it's not working, so they want to jack

jonathan gruber admitted in front of a group of his so-called friends, and fortunately one of his friendsmitted that the whole sales pitch on obama care was a lie. he called it the stupidity of the american voters. remember that? but the only stupidity was the stupidity of our leaders who pass this disaster into law over the objection of the american people. it was all a big lie because without the lies it would've never passed, even the democrats would not have voted for it. president obama said that if you like your dr. you can keep your dr.. remember? he promised his plan would reduce premiums by $2500. instead they went up by over $5000 and people cannot afford it. now, did you hear yesterday? of all people, maybe he is not a very good -- i don't think so. president bill clinton came out and told the truth about obama care. this was yesterday. he is absolutely trashed president obama's signature legislation. remember, hillary clinton called obama care what are the greatest accomplishments of president obama of the democratic party, and of our country. give me a break. you see what's h

remember he had gruber where my uncle was a professor and he was the architect of the plan. remember he called the american people stupid for going along with obamacare. then he tried to take it back. he couldn't take it back. it was a disaster. the problem is they all have a memory. two weeks and we forget. i don't forget. i bring it up. jonathan grouper said the american people are essentially stupid for allowing obamacare to happen. we have to show them on november 8th we are not stupid. we are not stupid. and here is is another beauty. a breaking news story provides one of the most shocking revelations to date. as you may remember president obama claim today have no knowledge what so ever of hillary clinton's illegal e-mail server. i have no knowledge of it. this guy, he is as bad as she is. he has got to stop campaigning and bring us some jobs, okay? but newly public e-mails, wikileaks proof otherwise. a clinton spokesperson sent an e-mail saying quote, looks like the president just said he found out hillary clinton was using her personal e-mail when he saw it on the ne

gruber ofonathan m.i.t., the architect of obamacare, he said they could pass obamacare because the stupiditythe american voter, the stupidity. he called the american voter stupid. , and youstupidity know that, it is the stupidity of our politicians who rammed this monster down our throats. from the beginning, i was against it. from the beginning, i said it was not going to work and it didn't work. it is going to get worse and hillary clinton wants to keep it. she wants to spend a fortune on it. she wants to keep it and your numbers are going to get up and it will get worse. repeal it and replace it. [cheers and applause] donald trump: this morning honey i spent some time with the incredible employees of trump international in miami. i am proud of the fact that thousands of thousands of people all over florida, and this state is an amazing state, but i am also proud to provide them with benefits, including health care. number ofely, a small the people who work at trump national in miami, they are on obamacare. a small percentage. morning, theythis are having tremendous difficulty. in fact, a

remember the name jonathan gruber, the architect of obamacare?dn't know he was being recorded, they could pass obamacare because the stupidity of the american voter will allow it to take place. the only stupidity was that incredible stupidity shown by our politicians when they forced this bill through, over the furious objections to many politicians, in all fairness. many, many politicians, but really, the american people. and it was very, very sad. and in all fairness to the democrats, had our president not lied 28 times -- remember, you can keep your plan, keep your doctor? it passed by this much. they would not have gone for it. but they believed him, too. like everybody else believed him. they caught him in a lot of lies lately, folks. hillary clinton -- talking about liars -- wants to double done -- big liar -- hillary clinton wants to double down on obamacare and make it even worse. so here, i'm going to repeal it, replace it. we're going to have a replacement that is so much less expensive and so much better. you don't even get to use obam

remember jonathan gruber of m.i.t., the architect of obamacare?e said they could pass obamacare because the stupidity of the american voter, the stupidity. he called the american voter stupid. the only stupidity, and you know that, it is the stupidity of our politicians who rammed this monster down our throats. from the beginning, i was against it. from the beginning, i said it was not going to work and it didn't work. it is going to get worse and hillary clinton wants to keep it. she wants to spend a fortune on it. she wants to keep it and your numbers are going to get up and it will get worse. repeal it and replace it. [cheers and applause] mr. trump: this morning honey i -- this morning, i spent some time with the incredible employees of trump international in miami. i am proud of the fact that thousands of thousands of people all over florida, and this state is an amazing state, but i am also proud to provide them with benefits, including health care. unfortunately, a small number of the people who work at trump national in miami, they are on

north carolina governor patrick rory faces democrat rory gruber. live on c-span 2, republican bill cole and jim justice debate in the governor's race. and first-term congressman brad #faceashburg faces down n bacon. next, house gop chair cathy .cmorris rodgers fa >> c-span's "washington journal," live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up tuesday morning, the latest developments of the presidential campaign following the second debate. we also look at key senate and house races. we also look at media bias against the presidential candidates with tim grant from the media research center and media matters. "washington journal," live, beginning at 7:00 eastern on tuesday morning. join the discussion. >> tuesday, former vice president al gore campaigns with hillary clinton in miami. we will be live from miami college at 3:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. next, a debate between cathy mcmorris-rodgers and her democratic challenger for washington's fifth congressional district, joe pakootas. this debate happened last thursday and

remember jonathan gruber? the architect of obama care, he said they could pass obama care. they said they could pass obama care because of the stupidity of the american voter will allow it to take place. the only stupidity was that incredible stupidity shown by our politicians when they forced this bill through over the furious objection to many politicians, in all fairness, many many politicians, but really the american people. and it was very, very sad. and in all fairness to the democrats, had our president not lied 28 times, remember you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor, it passed by this much, they would not have gone for it, but they believed him to like everyone else. they caught him in a lot of lies lately, folks. hillary clinton, talking about liars, wants to double down. a big liar, wants to double down on obama care and make it even worse. so here,ly -- i will repeal it replace it, and it will be so much let's expensive. look, it is so out of control, you'll never get to yuls it. $4,000 or $5,000 before you can start taking -- just this, and just happ

jonathan gruber, you remember him? architect of obamacare, admitted it was all a fraud, he said it was passed but of the stupidity of the american voter. ah. but only stupidity was that of the officials who rammed through this horrible, horrible law. over the objections of the american voter, he is right. very few people, if anybody, almost nobody read it, who said that? very smart. they didn't read it. they don't read anything they don't read their trade deals, they don't read nafta, they don't read tpp,. job killing obamacare is just one more way that system is rigged. hillary clinton wants to double down on obamacare, make it an, even more expensive. it is no good, folks. it is so expencive, by far. by it is no good. it is no good. you deductibles, it doesn't work. repealing and replacing obamacare is one of the single most important reasons we must win on november 8. real change also means getting rid of corruption. in washington. my contract with the american voter begins with a plan to take our government back fr

it is a tremendous problem and gruber, the architect the wise guy who said, the american people are stupid, well, he's going to fine out they are are not stupid. >> governor pence, the window is short in a new administration to get things moving. on that list that mr. trump just mentioned, how do you get that going. >> first thing we do is make sure donald trump is the next president of the united states. and reelect republican majorities in the house and senate. what you have here is a leader and he cast a vision to make america great again and get the economy moving again and not tax increases that hillary clinton advocates. but cutting taxes across the board and repealing obama care and trade deals that puts the american worker first and having the appointmentes to the supreme court that uphold our constitution in the tradition of the late justice anton scalia. it takes new leadership in the white house and on capitol hill and having gotten to know this man over last three months. the energy and leadership he will provide will change the direction of washington d.c. and our country quic

remember the name jonathan gruber, the architect of obamacare? he said they can pass obamacare. he was being recorded. he said they could pass obamacare because the stupidity of the american voter will allow it to take place. the only stupidity was, incredible stupidity shown by our politicians when they forced this bill through over the furious objection, many politicians, many many politicians, but really the american people and it was very sad and in all fairness to the democrats, had our president not lied 28 times, remember, you can keep your plan you can keep your doctor, it passed by this much, they would not have gotten it but they believed them too like everybody else believed him. a lot of lies lately, folks. hillary clinton, talking about liars, wants to double down. [cheers] >> a big liar. hillary clinton wantssamacare a worse. i will repeal it, replace it. we are going to have a replacement that is so much less expensive and so much better. you don't even get to use obamacare because the deductible is so high, look. it is so out-of-control you will never get to use

remember the name jonathan gruber, the architect of obamacare? [ boos ] he said they could pass obamacare -- well, he didn't know he was being recorded. he said they could pass obamacare because the stupid of the american voter will allow it to take place. the only stupidity was that incredible stupidity shown by our politicians when they forced this bill through over the furious objection to many politicians, in all fairness, many, many politicians but really the american people and it was very, very sad. and in all fairness to the democrats had our president not lied 28 times -- remember, you can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor. it passed by this much. they would not have gone for it. but they believed him, too, like everybody else believed him. they've caught him in a lot of lies lately, folks. hillary clinton -- talking about liars -- wants to double down -- [ cheers and applause a big liar. hillary clinton wants to double down on obamacare and make it even worse. so here, i'm going to repeal it, replace it, we're going to have a rep

jonathan gruber reviews architect of obamacare, remember that name from a year and half ago?emember that name? people forget that i don't forget. admitted it was all a fraud. he said it was passed because of the stupidity of the american voter. do you remember that guy? but the only stupidity was that the official who ran this through over the injections of the american voter, this is what happened. it did a tremendous disservice to our country. lou: donald trump wrapping up as we wrap up here, it carrying his case against obamacare which is dominating now the lives of so many millions of americans because premiums rising on average 25%. mostly that's inserted then donald trump reacting to the reopening of the investigation of the clinton e-mail scandal's today. i talked -- he has just been so constrained on the issue direct and forthright saying justice will be delivered. charlie hurt your reaction? >> i think what we have seen over the past year is donald trump gets on these j.a.g.s where he is focused on the issues and he can go for about 10, 11 and 12 days and then he goe

jonathan gruber said don't worry, americans are dumb enough to buy into this and we did somehow supremeed from fee and penalty to tax. make a long story short, trump should hammer this especially in battleground states in arizona. there is poll has hillary clinton leading in arizona. he should get there -- melissa: open your mail. >> you will have 116% increase in arizona. 40% increase in north carolina, another battleground state. minnesota, he can win, 53% increase. this is massive for the average american who has -- meghan: really bad. i know someone personally in my life their premium is almost as much as their mortgage at this point. to say this is disaster and con -- >> throw one quick thing out here. i did the math, silver plan, middle plan on obamacare, it is most popular one, not high or low one, middle plan. 40 years old, non-smoker you will pay between premiums and deductibles $8500 out of your pocket before the government or insurance company picks up penny for cold or strep throat. not one penny. harris: there is another segment of voters this hits too. it hits everybody bu