to define this country earlier i was joined by ernest dal then a partner at rosen bean galvin and grunfeld i first asked him why the court ordered the release of so many inmates from the california prison system well the federal courts in california have been grappling with inhumane conditions in the california prison system for twenty years and during that time the state has tried to put more resources into minimally humane care for prisoners but at the same time we run incarceration binge and the state can ask the laws increasing sentences and sending more people into prison for minor offenses and drug offenses. the prisons just became so overcrowded that you couldn't you couldn't do basic things like respond to a person who was bleeding and people would bleed to death in their cells the places were just too crowded and so the courts finally in two thousand and eight said enough is enough you're operating this place at two hundred percent of your capacity and you're killing people and so you need to get it down to something more reasonable and they said they ordered a cap on the on the c