they tried, gsa tried to fire him.ngement with his lawyer, i don't know the details, he was allowed to he retire which was a pretty sweet deal for him. it means he was able to collect his full pension, and it means he wasn't fired from the government. >> now, we reached out to the folks here at gsa to find out what they had to say about it, they're not happy and issued this statement saying, quote, we are disappointed with the merit system protection board drilling on this personnel matter and exploring all of our available options including appeal. gsa has taken strong actions against the officials we believe were responsible and will continue to do so where appropriate and finally, greta, we reached out to mr. prouty through his attorney for an interview, they declined and refused to issue a statement. perhaps that will change if the gsa does indeed move forward with an appeal to the decision and we'll be right here to cover it. >> greta: now to one of your favorite topics, the sequester. as federal agencies are scra

if gsa is the one, they're the landlord for the buildings, right, and gsa, who could forget the conference they had to the tune of about a million dollars in vegas where the guys in the bathtub. >> the guy in the hot tub, yeah. >> greta: and that's the-- instead of checking to see what's going on with the buildings he's in the bathtub with two glasses i might ad, as i always do, they don't match. we're paying for wine glasses and they don't match. that's my sarcasm. i wish that other members of congress have this appetite as you do to go after the empty building, it really is painful that-- here we talk about sequestration and we're just blowing money on things like this. >> well, it started, you know, i had limited jurisdiction as chairman of transportation and now i have more authority. went out to maryland, and we've got 7,000 acres, the size of the city of key west, and agricultural research center, i think the first member of congress other than the local ones to be there since 1930. 500 buildings on the property, 200 of them vacant. 7,000 acres prime real estate just outside the nati

what he's arguing is i realize that gsa employees and managers behaved very badly.neely, he was not fired, he was allowed to retire. the bathtub man was allowed to retire with the bloody marys or whatever they turned out to be, and not fired, but prowdy had a different result and what he said was this is about the obama administration trying to make me a scapegoat to try to cover their own failures elsewhere within the gsa and i'm not taking it. >> yeah, well he was the former leader of the entire gsa and also the leader of that rocky mountain divisions that sent dozens of employees to the lavish conference, and almost a million dollars of waste at that conference. if there's not accountability at the top for the people in charge of these people, i mean, who is going be to be held accountable for that? i think that's a very serious question and by the way, he was at at least one planning meeting for this conference. >> megyn: here they are, playing the ukulele on our dime, getting ready for the conference where they he get the commemorative coins and play with the m

we discovered two weeks ago in this committee, that we all remember the gsa junkets to las vegas where they spent $600 per day per attendee for conference. if use that as a benchmark, 183 times various agencies have exceeded that mark in various conferences they have attended. i remember defense was over 50 times that exceeded that benchmark. has the deferment of transportation have a -- held conferences around the country and attended? do you know if you were above or below the benchmark? >> we stay within the party and requirements. i will be happy to get that information for you. >> which deal for just one second? when you said per diem, that is how much the individual gets paid. but the general and was asking is about how much was spent. the gsa scandal was not about per diem. >> i am also referring to the per diem rate for hotels. >> how many conferences did you send a permanent transportation employs two last year? >> i will be happy to get you that. >> you don't know that information? it has been in the news, with the gsa, 183 times we have had -- use that number, and you don't

example where they had the big conference and they did the video and everything. >> eric: after the gsae it those be approved or something. i don't remember the exact law. this is proof there is waste. barbershop for the senate? really? >> bob: but this has been around since 1950. look at the haircuts of the people lousy barbershop. >> dana: you could pay them a hefty book advance, though, the barbers there. they're good guys. it's not their fault necessarily. but manual the book they -- imagine the book they could write. >> bob: but the other perks is unbelievable. they get all kind of free stuff and they wonder why they are at 19% at the poll. >> kimberly: they cashing in on the taxpayers' expence. >> thank you for the promo. there are books called -- i can't remember the name of the books, but the house and senate puts them out there. >> greg: "hardy boys." >> eric: no. >> greg: "nancy drew." >> eric: they make $700,000, free haircuts and free parking and they expense their water bottles. that is how ridiculous it is. they are bleeding us -- [over talk ] did you know every congresspe

more than 800,000 of your tax dollars were spent on a lavish conference by the gsa.w a marriage board has ruled that a fired senior executive with the general services administration must get his job back. paul will get 11 months of bag pay while gsa officials claim he should have known about the excessive spending the board said because he didn't attend the 2010 conference he is not guilty of misconduct. the agency may appeal the ruling. >> 67 people charged with using a veteran's charity as a front for illegal gambling. 40 of the world parlors claim to use gambling to raise money for a charity. in reality only 2 percent of the 290 million raised was actually donated. the rest spent by executives on cars boats even donations to political campaigns. lieutenant governor jennifer carol who once did marketing for that charity has also stepped down after being questioned by authorities. she has not been charged. >> they are extremely hard to spot. that's the quote from the tsa explaining how the agency let a mock bomb into the security airport. they are trying to defend

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he was one of the top managers at gsa. acting head of it for a while three years ago. one of two things went wrong with him. either he was not on top of the things manager and he approved this ridiculous conference that wasted $800,000, or, he was completely out to lunch, breakfast and dinner and didn't know what was going on, and was a bad manager and should be fired. this confirms people in government do a horrible job, and what do they get, a 11-month vacation? martha: it is unbelievable. you would think, and you stated, so well, john, because either he didn't know what was going on and that's a problem or he did, and that's a problem. but what it says to me along the way here there is just this acceptance, this sort of, well, everybody does this stuff, right? this is agency sort of pep talk, employee rally. we went out to vegas, what is the big deal? terrible people are out there pointing fingers at us when we're just trying to rev up our employees. >> this conference was outrage just by government standards. they $320

gsa pointed out there are 35 applicants or proposals have been submitted. i'm not sure the timetable. i will have to get back to you on that. >> i have been concerned with the senate language targeted to go to a certain location. people ought to be open, and nothing but integrity. there is probably no one i trust more in the government than you. they have been pending for some time due to a lack of funding, specifically the central records complex. hopefully, as you talked to gsa you will make sure you will be oen, honest, and in an appropriate way. i'm familiar with additional construction projects that would be funded from your own appropriations. they have been pending for some time due to a lack of funding or authority. can you describe the need for for these projects? and can you give us an estimate from the associated funding requirements and the status? >> to the extent that we need funds, we will have to look at moneys from quantico for other funding. that has been something we have wanted to accomplish for a number of years, to modernize in one pla

this is the gsa the group with the $800,000 conference in las vegas.we trust these people to fend spend money frugally? >> john: sequestration prescribed how the cut take effect. veterans reasons getting tuition. that's what sequestration said would happen. >> the question is did sequestration have to happen? if they were willing to make cuts that need to be made, this wouldn't have had to happen. the reason that sequestration happen -- >> they can't turn back the clock. >> they don't want to, they don't want to take on the issues. when you survey americans they want to cut the government spending. pew did a sur ray in february that looked to 19 different areas. would you like to see spending cuts? in every area, not a single one got majority support. so people broadly want cuts but they don't want specific cuts. none of the politicians want to actually make cut. so we end up with sequestration. >> this is a problem on capitol hill. they are allergic. they break out in hives. >> three magic words. waste, fraud, and abuse. [ overtalk ] >> we are going t

i am not certain of a timetable that gsa will follow. i will have to get back to you on that. i don't know how long it takes for them to go to the proposals. i would have to get back to you in terms of the process a follow and whittle down a site. >> i have been very concerned that the senate language, without saying, targeted to go to a certain location. i would hope that you would make it clear to the gsa people that it ought to be open, honest, and there should be nothing but integrity. there's probably nobody in the government i trust more than you. and there ought to be integrity in the process and not have a political operation by using language in different bills to direct it in a certain way without naming a place, in essence the circumstances say to send it to a certain place. hopefully, as you talk to gs-8, you will make sure that you, because of the credibility of the fbi, want to be open and honest and for to be done in inappropriate ways. >> certainly. >> in addition to your headquarters project, i'm familiar with additional construction projects which will be fun

the gsa recommended firing him, but he was not fired. to retire with his government benefits. >> alisyn: he needed two strawberry daiquiris. >> brian: that's what he did when he was at work, what's he doing in retirement? you can't get any more relaxed than that! how would he know the difference? coming up straight ahead. >> alisyn: the fight to get tuition assistance back to our nation's heros. senator james imhoff making it his personal mission. >> steve: then taylor swift just kicked off her new tour and she's got a special treat for fans. a discount we're here! we're going to the park! [ gina ] oh hey, dan! i really like your new jetta! and you want to buy one like mine because it's so safe, right? yeah... yeah... i know what you've heard -- iihs top safety pick for $159 a month -- but, i wish it was more dangerous, like a monster truck or dune buggy! you can't have the same car as me! [ male announcer ] now everyone's gointo want one. let's get a jetta. [ male announcer ] volkswagen springtoberfest is here and there's no better time

you remember that gsa scandal over $800,000 with a vegas regional convention with the gsa administratoritting in a hot tub with a glass of wine? that is mere pittance. they're sitting on literally 77,000 vacant and empty buildings. each the vacant builds as a whole cost taxpayers $3 billion a year. $15 billion every five years. so we'll be taking a look at that and why gsa continues to sit on all those empty buildings. bill: big government. you might have a lot of targets, doug. thanks, doug mckelway is there in washington on what to cut. for more on this story head to our website, foxnews.com. you can answer your you died question on -- you decide question on ducks. your tax dollars. jamie: i saw that. budget cuts grounding another blue angels airshow. officials in cleveland are worried what kind impact will have on their economy because hundreds of thousands of people always turn out to the see the u.s. navy fighter jets perform. some sad to see it all go. >> i've been going to the airshow since i was a kid. like routine of every year, i always go. like i love going with the family an

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the undercover gsa inspector was able to pass through security a new work last month with a fake bombashed it improvised the explosive device to security screenings and a pat down. democratic senator murph urges nascar to drop the nra over rice at the speedway riding a letter saying in the wake of the sandy hook school shooting club med i believe it would be imprudent for them to step into a heated debate. >> a freshman senator from connecticut commission may be news but the nascar ceo is a big supporter of sandy hook donating $50,000 for the families provide north the senator have stunned himself i'm sure he matched that. also confiscating a third grader homemade batch of cupcakes there on the lookout. the redecorated with plastic green army soldiers the principal said she took issue because she was to promote nonviolence in the wake of sandy hook and soldiers on do that. lou: know they protect your rights to be an idiot. the students dad said he was disgusted by the decision and it is filed he rose in with psychopathic killers and that was only one idiot but she is the boss of the s

. >>> the gsa is about to pay. last year's scandal of the general service administration's lavish taxpayer funded conference in las vegas? 11 people got fired. one is back on the job, and the judge says the agency owes him 11 months months of back pay bee the guy didn't do anything wrong. >> what do you think? >> i think this guy should definitely have been fired. and i do not think he should have gotten his job back. he missed up. >> neil: obviously a special case because he was hired back. >> i don't know what was so special. he was supposed to be paying attention he didn't pay attention. $800,000 got squandered. seems like the right thing for him to lose his job. >> neil: he didn't so maybe there was a difference. >> i don't know why this guy ever lost his job. first of all, $3,000 per person on a conference doesn't really seem that outrageous. >> by government standards it's not outrageous. >> if you go to vegas for a week for -- >> how many people? >> 300 people. none of those people went out and spent movemen

fire anyone in any agency unless you're sitting in a hot tub with a wine glass and you're in charge of gsal office out in the west. >> reporter: but in fact jeff neely, the organizer of that conference was never fired. he retired, with benefits. and just this month, another gsa executive, paul proud did i, who was fired in the vegas conference scandal was reinstated with 11 months of back pay. take for example, the case of an employee who was reprimanded for what supervisors called excessive flatulence, no kidding. five-pages of notes documenting 61 infractions last year. he was notified he had a right to written grievance, union representation and even civil rights complaint. last january after all of that the reprimand was withdrawn. these kinds of cases demonstrate the difficulty of disciplining federal workers. bill: i don't want to work with that guy. >> if you can't control who works and who doesn't, because of the office of personnel management rules and also the union contracts. >> reporter: and, bill, reality, few members of congress want to delve into this mess of red tape. might

. >> there is a brain specific protein called gsa p that is released when you sustain traumatic brain we have demonstrated is that the release of the protein can be detected in the blood. >>reporter: the nfl has been under increasing pressure to do something about cop concussions on the field. 3-year-old study found almost 200,000 teenagers are hospitalized every year with sports relited brain injuries. >> well sometimes volatile relationship between bicyclist an motherist may took an interesting turn in sonoma county. tomorrow the board of supervisors will consider a proposed ordinance that would make it easier for cyclist and pedestrians to sue those who deliberately threaten and harass them out on the road. this proposal being fueled by bicycle length advocate and series of recent crashes that ird sky or killed cyclist and pedestrian. however also aforward the same rights to motorist threatened by cyclist cyclists. so it works in reverse as well. consider this tomorrow nature. >> all right. spencer is here feels like spring almost like summer. absolutely gorgeous weather. >> may re

secret service to have the tours, and you look at the numbers and you mentioned the fraud and waste, the gsa conference that happened in vegas that we always talk about the guy in the barthtub with two unmatching wine glass, and that's ten weeks, if they use good sense we could keep the white house tours open for ten weeks. >> the thing that's distressing to so many people when they look at the amount of cost of that and how other money is spent, they say this is absolutely ridiculous. i mean, the president should try to make any of these cuts really minimize the impact, instead, it seems like he's trying to maximize the pain and the fear of the sequester and you see with the tsa, they just had 50 million dollars for new uniforms and it was done the same day that the head of the department of transportation was saying, well, you're going to have to wait in line longer and 90 minute delays for flights. the same day they spent 50 million dollars on uniform. >> greta: i don't mean to pick on the president and the president travels around and seeing people around the country, an important part o

this buyer and i discovered this two weeks ago that we all remember the gsa to las vegas for this $600 per day per conference and if you set as a benchmark, 183 times agencies have exceeded that mark and conferences. i remember defense was 50 times and they had exceeded the benchmark. in the past year has the department of transportation helped conferences around the country? >> how many? do you know fewer above or below the benchmark? for the $600 a day per conference? >> we stay within the per diem requirements. >> he said we could get that information. >> mr. jordan, which you yield? >> when he said per diem, but finished the individual get paid. who's asking how much is spent. the scandal was not about per diem. >> i'm referring to the per diem rate for hotels. how many conferences did you send employees to last year? >> i'll be happy to get you that. i've been reviewing and approving conferences. as much as it's been a news of the gsa in the hearing two weeks ago, 183 times you've used that number and you don't know that information? you don't omnicom as he went to? >> would achie

and the courts in the courts because the courts have to pay gsa rent.ee? the executive branch doesn't pay for court services. i mean, we provide -- the judiciary provides other services all the services that the executive branch wants for free. but why do the courts to the pay for the services the executive branches give to them? i'm certain someone can be done there and i'm certain that if you could separate those two things out -- i'm not certain, but i think that it might be in respect to having a rational allocation of the core budget. and i have a few other ideas. probably sometimes i have a good idea, and it is surrounded by 10 other bad ones. so i think i will stop. >> justice kennedy, that we can discern through some sort of analysis or report. how would we go about finding out where those pressure points are? >> one reason our civil case laws -- or our docket is down at this point is new statutes that congress passed that produces litigation. and there haven't been many major statutes, but the statute of health care is one. that took a long tim

and i guarantee you for every one of these things whether it's the gsa or the irs that comes out therengs that are just as bad if not worse that they are getting away with. bill: just 90? you know what i tell you charlie one more point on this. for those who are debating the sequester they point to examples like these where the government could go and find and save mon money. >> how is it that president obama and a lot of democrats, not all of them, but a lot of them are actually make the argument that we can't make reasonable, responsible cuts to the federal government, they are not telling the truth. i mean they are simply not telling the truth, or they have extremely bad judgment, because as this video evidences there are a lot of things to cut. bill: this gilligan's island video has been marooned for another time. charlie hurt in washington. thank you. heather: growing fears for the future of american cities. a city of some 300,000 people heading to bankruptcy court. will others be soon to follow? we'll debate that. bill: what about the future of the republican party? karl rove wei

one in any agency unless you are sitting in a hot tub with a wine glass and you are in charge of the gsapermitted him to retire with benefits. another gold sa executive who was fired was reinstated with 11 months back pay. then there was the case of an employee whos reprimanded for what supervisors called excessive flatulence. five pages documenting 61 in fractions cat that logged over six months. last january, after all that, the reprimand was withdrawn. the three cases demonstrate the cumbersome process of discipline in the federal government. >> you can't manage an organization if you can't control who works and who doesn't because of the office of personnel management rules and also the union contracts. >> reporter: but the existing is system has no shortage of support. >> they are the best educated public work force in the united states. and they tend to be specialized. could go tople who cosimo to the private sector and earn more money. >> back in the past and unfortunately also recently, political reasons played a large role in who got hired and fired in federal government. and of

bad the sequester is, you ordinary people feel the pain rather than doing things like canceling the gsa, you know, trip to las vegas. i mean, this was a bad mistake by the president to cancel the white house tours. they many could pounded it. bill: they made a poor decision in the first place, that's what you're arguing? >> right. bill: i tell you what republicans should do. they should boycott the easter egg roll on 1st of april. as silly as that may sound. say we're not going to go. >> i would be, better thing have oversight hearing to say really secretary napolitano, you could not find $74,000 a week you could have for white house tours? what about canceling this? what about the waste in this? what about doing this? what about that. a whole range of options they could have found ways within the homeland security department budget to pay the overtime for secret service to handle the white house tours. bill: okay, now, you don't disagree with that point? >> no, not at all. bill: if there could be a boycot saying in is not right. this all ties into the budget and spending. you brought a

such as the world trade center, which the gsa was supposed to give back to congress because they signedease for $30 million a year for 10 years. they do not even know what they want to use it for and they do not even have a document yet. the outgoing got director of the office of management and budget, jeffires guion -- jeffrey zion. this has been an issue in government. the waste on leases, the duplication, the overlap, we got all of these problems in the federal government that we can fix if we just write down on them. what is interesting about your comment is that the government accountability office that you are talking about is not going to make a single furlough because they thought ahead. this is 2900 people. they deliver everything through their own personnel. and they're not laying off anybody because the comptroller general of the united states thought ahead. they had worst-case contingency plans in place. you did not have to do this. you did not have to furlough to get this thing down. you could have done it thoughtfully by eliminating certain programs, by not hiring a in cer

essence, the circumstances placeent it to a certain your huffily when you talk to gsa been pending for some time due to a lack of funding, specifically the central records complex. can you describe the need for these products -- for these projets? need the extent that we will have to look of moneys from quantico for other funding. we have been something wanted to accomplish for a number of years, to modernize in one place. records are so important to the work we do. i'll have to get back to you on where we are specifically with these of the things that are going to be affected. >> could the other two be part package? my understanding is that whoever is successful on the bid, 11 procure.ty to i was wondering if you cannot do .ll three together look atl have to take a that. i see your point. >> i think it's about the lack benghazi andin apprehending am bringing to justice those as possible for the talk -- the attack. we are now beyond the six month date. problemsperience getting access to the state initially. you went to libya in january. we satisfied with the pace a result of the invest

of the first circuit which was more administrative is that there's always been tension between the gsaand the courts because they have to pay rent. the executive branch doesn't pay for court sources. we provide and the judiciary provides the services to the exhibit of branch that they want for free. but why then do the courts pay for the services the executive branch gives to them? i am certain some work can be done and you can separate those things out i'm not certain, but i think it might help in respect to having more allocation of what tends to be a large share of the court budget and i have a few other ideas but probably sometimes i have a good idea and it's surrounded by ten rather bad ones, so i think i will stop. >> i was hoping you could give an example of media sort of example like you were discussing earlier that we could capture on camera and they could play out leader this would be thone chance to dothat. justice kennedy, i might fall upon your point which i haven't raised but it's a good point. are there particular items that are generating a large amount of litigation th