because they love chen guangcheng. why do they love chen guangcheng?cause chen guangcheng as a blind man is a source of light. this is no poetic work. literally, it's a source of light. and he represents the goodness and the bravery that both on short supply in china. he's -- he lives in the poorest of village. he didn't go to school until he's 18. he is blind. where on earth did you find such a man? where? tell me. and he is the symbol and the -- for him we must understand the larger picture. now, i'm a ordinary citizen. in my eyes, my larger picture might not be the same as the larger picture of our state department officials, okay? but the one piece i saw in this larger picture may well be the most significant piece which is china's pro-democracy citizens whether they're outspoken or not look upon the u.s. for support. if we failed chen guangcheng, this deals a horrible, horrible blow for this population. that are braving persecution for change in china for the better. and that we will suffer the pain for years and years to come. and we will lose al

and guangcheng was allowed to enter the u.s. embassy and a member of the obama administration including the assistant secretary and the state department legal advisor and ambassador all made a great active effort and of course sacrificed lots of sleep, sleepness and during the negotiation time. and although some aspects of the events that followed certainly were not handled appropriately by the administration. we are nonetheless pleased to see that high level american and chinese officials have promised to help guangcheng and his family come to the united states so they can arrest and have further studies in the u.s. institution. and this shows that our country recognize that it is responsible for the outcome of the fate of guangcheng. we hope that a member of congress can provide all the tools and that the administration need to back their commitment and to follow through and it will certainly looking forward that day when chen and his wife and two children to touch the soil in the united states of america very soon. hopefully.

where is the way out for chen guangcheng? despite of the fact that the united states and china have reached an agreement and are committed to guangcheng's freedom and security and guangcheng remains under defacto house arrest in the hospital, i talk with him pretty much twice a day until last night and this morning we lost contact. all the visitors are barred including the u.s. diplomatic representatives are not allowed to visit him. some of the chinese supporters and friends just try to visit

dispute over chen guangcheng comes as china is reeling from a scandal. bill cohen referred to it involving a former prizing star in the communist party, bo xilai, stripped of power amid a murder mystery involving his wife and the death of their british business partner. "the people's epic of scandal," this is one of the most interesting stories and you dug into it. this has ripped the scab off of corruption. a potentially more challenging issue for the rising chinese leadership. >> that's right i think it's a great story because it does demonstrate the degree to which the chinese leadership lost the narrative. they enjoyed especially since 2008 world side, they promoted this aura of bureaucracy that serves the people well and this has ripped the scab off. there's multigenerational corruption, feather bedding, helping cronyism and it's really exposed just how dire the situation is among the chinese elite. >> is bo xilai a scapegoat as part after larger struggle between when -- i mean this is really shorthand but is there a reform versus hardline component

chen guangcheng's fears.ollowing his arrest, chinese officials broke into his house in the houses of his family, rounding up those who assisted him. officials broke into the home of his brother, his nephew, tried to give them consult with a kitchen knife. he is now in police detention centers. i am extremely concerned about chen guangcheng, for his welfare, as well as that of other family members. the day after the emergency hearing, the chinese ministry of foreign affairs posted on the website the statement that a chinese citizen, is your chen guangcheng, according to the laws and normal procedures. u.s. department of state issued a press release saying that the chinese government stated today that mr. chen guangcheng had the same right to travel abroad as any other citizen of china. mr. chen guangcheng has been offered a fellowship at an american university where he will be accompanied by his wife and children. the chinese government has indicated that they will extend mr. chen guangcheng's for appropriate

chen guangcheng would stay in china, his safety guaranteed. he was accompanied to the hospital by the american ambassador, who approved of the deal. now the activist has changed his mind, fearing for the safety of his family. he wants to go to america. >> i am zeinab badawi. [speaking foreign language] >> i feel very unsafe. my rights and safety cannot be assured here. >> his comments, as hillary clinton met for china's leader for high-level talks. under pressure, she addressed the issue of human rights. >> as part of our dialogue, the united states raises the importance of human rights and fundamental freedom. we believe that all governments do have to answer to citizens' aspirations for dignity and the rule of law, and that no nation can or should deny those rights. >> chen guangcheng claims he was pressured to leave the embassy. that has been denied by diplomats. well, they were confident the crisis had been resolved. now with chen guangcheng effectively seeking asylum in the u.s., his case is becoming a growing problem for washington. >> t

a reminder of our top story on gmt -- chen guangcheng has left the u.s. embassy in beijing one week after seeking shelter, following his escape from house arrest. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton says he left the embassy on his own accord. after speaking with chen guangcheng, she said the choices reflect american values. mrs. clinton is in beijing for high-level strategic talks. that's it for this edition of gmt. stay with us. there is plenty more to come. >> make sense of international news at bbc.com/news. >> funding was made possible by -- the freeman foundation of new york, stowe, vermont, and honolulu, newman's own foundation, and union bank. >> at union bank, our relationship managers work hard to understand the industry you operate in, working to nurture new ventures and help provide capital for key strategic decisions. we put our extended global network to work for a wide range of companies. from small businesses to major corporations. what can we do for you. >> "bbc world news" was presented by kcet los angeles. guangdonafghanistan, and th

we're talking about chen guangcheng. how was that reported by the chinese press compared to the western press? >> his story has been centered in the mainstream media in china for some time. -- censored in the mainstream media in china for some time. he has been under house arrest. the mainstream media says the u.s. is interfering in chinese affairs and should back off. >> in terms of how they're perceived and in terms of how they're opening up their relationship with the u.s. and we have these talks with hillary clinton, how should they be approaching mr. chen's situation? >> they value his ability to engage in society. i think they need to also stressed that media freedom and allowing journalists [inaudible] allowing foreign journalists' access to him and others in his situation is vital for the protest. >> are you not concerned that by having or by trying to gain access to him, we're not in danger in his position? >> i think that is a valid concern. i think that he and other dissidents recognize the risk involved in sp

." >> chinese activist chen guangcheng leaves the u.s. ambassador to rejoin his family. at least six people are killed outside the egyptian area in cairo. and president obama says the defeat of haifa is now within reach. welcome to "bbc world news." i'm geeta guru-murthy. >> this is no doubt a moment in history for burma and represents moving for. >> and the last laugh. two britains who stole penguins pay a heavy price for their drunken prank. >> the blind chinese dissident, chen guangcheng, has left the embassy. chinese media is reporting chen left the ambassador of his own have a license hours after u.s. secretary of state, hillary clinton left, and now china is demanding an apology from the u.s. for helping the activist. can you unravel what's happened here? >> well, this unfolded over the last hour or so. what's happened is the blind activist chen guangcheng, about 10 days ago he fled home detention and made his way here to beijing. at some point last week, last thursday, he entered the u.s. ambassador. but for several days afterwards neither the united states nor ch

chen guangcheng had a conversation am. over the phone call, when she told chen guangcheng that he wants to kiss secretary clinton, he said that is not what i said. i said i wanted to meet him. in light of the past, at the time i thought how convenient. i thought it was not something significant. i also don't want to over interpret. over the last two days, this does run over my head. did they pretend not to hear its? ? i am just asking. congress can ask the same question. he did say he wanted to kiss clinton. he want to meet clinton. -- he did not say he wanted to kiss clinton. he wanted to meet clinton. >> that comments with the put out by the state department? >> that was put out by the state department. the tweets i can send to you that clarifies this confusion. >> yesterday, they called me yesterday morning and gave me a briefing. he said that he was going to the hospital. he was going to be with chen on thursday and friday. does anybody know if he was with him today? have you spoken? >> i have no idea. i would be with

and chen guangcheng, despite the fact chen guangcheng chg has not obtained the full freedom, but his ability to escape from a massive prison was no less a miracle either. your words are so important. media attention is also so important and prayers very important as we speak publicly as this also reminds us that the chinese government watches us. the world watches us, and acts in response to our conviction. so with your permission i would like to end this testimony with a prayer. heavenly father, you, lord, hear the desires of afflicted and encourage them and listen to their cry. you hear the cries of people in china calling for your justice and mercy. you hear our cries as we, too, plead for your justice to roll down like a mighty river. today we lift in kwaquan cheng supporter into your care for we know you will finish what he has started and you will surely, one day, bring them to complete freedom. we lift up to you these leaders here, these servants of the people. i praise you for raising them up and bringing them here today. i ask you to move their hearts and inspire them to ass

we felt we were sisters in this cause of freeing chen guangcheng and she is the one that when chen guangchengmade his great escape she drove 20 hours to his village and she disguised herself as a courier, got into the village, full the guard and drove eight hours between there and beijing. .. i would urge that the discussions that include all times i appreciate the way that congress has been in putting her in the discussions so i'm sure he will not feel free until his main supporter from the outside is also free. thank you. figure for that testimony and for bringing attention to the underlying cause why the full weight of the chinese government came down upon chen and his wife on the forced abortion issue in reminding the world that the concern we have to have for her well-being. i would now like to yield to mr. horowitz. >> thank you, mr. sherman. last month i was arrested in a respectful demonstration in what i call the china six, and of course was one of them and when the first news came out, send an e-mail to bald and said we are down to the china five and he then sent back an e-mail to m

chen guangcheng had a conversation am. she the phone call, when told chen guangcheng that he wants to kiss secretary clinton, he said that is not what i said. i said i wanted to meet him. in light of the past, at the time i thought how convenient. to make this mistake. significant. interpret. over the last two days, this does run over my head. did they pretend not to hear it? i am just asking. question. he told his friend clinton. that he did not say kiss clinton. he wanted to meet clinton. out by the state department? department. and the media. the tweets i can send to you that clarifies this confusion. >> yesterday, they called me briefing. hospital. he was going to be with chen on thursday and friday. him today? have you spoken? >> i have no idea. i would be with him on thursday and friday. nobody knows? do you think the environment changed? i have heard some positive things. about ambassador locke. i oppose them to the ambassadorship. i was the one here opposed his confirmation to the ambassadorship. i told him so. he

chinese dissident chen guangcheng leaves china. his brother says he has now escaped his heavily guarded village. french elections could -- fresh elections could be forced in nepal. a court rejected a plea from the assembly to extend its term from sunday so it could agree to terms. joining me now is a professor at the institute of southeast asian studies here in singapore. we know that all of this has been in the work for several years. why did it take the government so long to come up with a constitution? >> it has to do mostly with the power sharing arrangement and the basic issues of the constitution. there is a core restructuring of the state. they do not want to compromise in terms of their own political power. that is why it has taken so long. >> if they fail to agree on a constitution by this sunday, what happens next? will there be a power vacuum or will parliament continue regardless? >> there will be a fierce legitimacy crisis because the constitution will come to an end. the same assembly may continue as a parliament, but

chen guangcheng is among the greatest defenders of women's rights in the world.hen descended thousands of women from the egregious systematic exploitation and abuse of women in human history. pervasive forced abortions and involuntary sterilization as part of china's one child per couple policy. and has suffered as a result of his defense, cruel torture, degrading treatment, unjust incarceration, and multiple beatings. the sheer magnitude of this exploitation of women has been largely overlooked and trivialized by many, and even enabled. the united nations population fund has for over 30 years supported, defended and whitewashed the crimes against women and children that chen struggle to expose. that is why presidents reagan and president bush defunded the u.n. population fund and then indefensible reversal, the obama administration has presided $165 million to the organization. mr. chen, as we know, was blinded by a severe fever as an infant. and is a self-taught lawyer. he garnered international attention in 2005 when he organized a class action lawsuit against

if they allow chen guangcheng to leave china, that looks weak.her hand, if they don't let him leave, then this whole issue will become a sort of festering wound on the face of u.s.-china relations. >> pelley: the night that chen escaped from his house arrest, he was met by a fellow activist and driven all the way to beijing. i wonder what's happened to her since then. >> reporter: well, that woman is named pearl he, or he pei-rong, in chinese. i actually spoke to her a couple of days ago via skype. she really stressed the initial escape was all chen guangcheng's own work, and she described it as a "shawshank redemption"- style escape. she told me that after the escape, she had been detained by the authorities for a couple of days. she said that she was questioned very politely, but she said that the main problem for them was that they simply wouldn't believe that chen guangcheng had been able to pull off that escape all by himself. >> pelley: after his escape, chen left a lot of members of his family back in his small home village. have they been

this is a hospital in beijing down now looks like chen guangcheng -- that now looks like chen guangcheng's new prison. he was brought here by american diplomats yesterday. he was reunited with his wife and children. china guarantee his safety. just after these pictures, his wife told him how police had beaten her following is a state. he said that his wife was tied to a chair by the police and kept there for two days. his family was afraid. chen guangcheng now says that the chinese assurances are worthless. inside of the hospital, he is surrounded by security. no u.s. diplomats there to protect him. he appealed to hillary clinton for help. she was meeting china's leaders. in beijing, for annual talks aimed at building a working relationship between the u.s. superpower and a rising china. both sides had wanted the standoff over the blind chen guangcheng settled quickly. a day after u.s. diplomats were congratulating themselves on a deal hailed as a new model for china, allowing this it is to stay in the country, it has all unraveled. -- allowing dissidents to stay in the country, it all unr

." >> making a direct appeal, chen guangcheng phones the u.s. congress from his hospital room. >> the safety of my mother, my brothers, and i really want to know what is going on with them. >> tens of thousands tried to escape the escalating violence in sudan. >> setting new light on osama bin laden, documents seized from his compound in pakistan. >> we are on the trail looking for space rock worth more than their weight in gold. >> it is 9:00 in singapore. >> it is 2:00 in london. broadcasting to be to viewers on pbs in america and around the globe. >> an extraordinary scene, the u.s. congressional hearing his telephone conversation with a chinese human rights activist chen guangcheng in which he made an impassioned plea for u.s. help. he was speaking from his hospital bed in beijing. he claims the chinese authorities have broken the plans of the deal under which he it agreed to leave the u.s. embassy. the diplomatic standoff has overshot a visit to china by hillary clinton. his calls to congress were translated by the president of the human-ri

chen guangcheng said they were not allowed to visit him. in a statement it said mr. chen can apply to study in the u.s. like any other chinese citizen. that suggests there may be a solution at hand to end this crisis. >> now to france where one of the candidates is warning against euphoria and complacency while the other warns against mad experiments with the economy. the frontrunner and incumbent, nicolas sarkozy is at its narrowist. our bbc continue following each and every buildup. katya? >> it's actually quite nail biting. as many people here saying there's rarely in recent years been such a close call in the second round of the elections. it's about economic politics. french people say the economy is number one on their mind and the international market is watching. this is a huge european economy. who will be president will affect the economic policies in the euro zone. joining me to have a chat more about what it could mean is the university's expert. francois hollande is in the lead. can he really do what he is promising? >> well, for instance that he is goin

chen guangcheng emerged from the american embassy in beijing today after being hold up there for six days. he was accompanied by u.s. ambassador gary locke, who was taken to this nearby hospital to treat a leg injury. there he was reunited with his wife, daughter, and son. but in short order, chen told the associated press in a phone interinterview from the hospital that he left the embassy under duress. >> ( translated ): if i didn't leave the chinese authorities would endanger my family and send them back to shandong. also i got the feeling the u.s. gof the in the embassy was quite supportive of me leaving as well. >>. >> he had been under house arrest for months before escape, in april. in washington, state department spokesman mark toner disputed the account. >> at notime did any u.s. official speak to chen about physical or legal threats to his wife and children nor did any chinese officials make threats to us or through of through us. >> the chinese government promised not to retaliate against chen. they also said he did not want asylum in the u.s. but instead would be allowed

the words of chen guangcheng.o the united states. >>> and mushrooms now being used to treat cancer? "cnn newsroom" starts right now. >>> we begin this hour with a rare and startling look inside the mind of osama bin laden. this morning, the public is getting its first look at documents seized in the raid from the mastermind. the leader desperate to launch another strike on the united states. hundreds and hundreds of pages are now appearing on the web site of the combating terrorism center at west point. nic robertson is in london. nic, what have you found? >> reporter: carol, another interesting nugget. here is bin laden, the son of a billionaire. wanting to send a top leader to yemen. one group he thought could at least give him about 200,000 euro. here is the guy looking for money. and jealousy creeping in. suggested by some of bin laden's deputies he should take over. bin laden says nice guy, but let's see him get on the battle field first. a real slap down for that rising star. bin laden seems to be having tro

a photo of chen guangcheng leads many papers. senior advisers to mitt romney have criticized david cameron. >> hillary clinton called on china to protect human rights as a dispute over a leading dissident continues. the two contenders and the french presidential election have accused each other of lying in their only televised debate. let's return to those crucial talks under way in beijing. we can speak to the professor of international political economy at peking university. thank you for talking to us. hillary clinton is calling on china to protect human rights. in return, both countries, the u.s. and china, should respect each other. what do you read into what the chinese president is saying? >> what you have just stated is a kind of standard pattern between american and chinese officials when human rights becomes a topic of discussion. i really do not seek much new in this particular case with this individual. few in china or the united states would want to see a repetition of such an incident. >> the chinese president says

. >> applause for chen guangcheng, the blind activist still hobbling after his dramatic escape after being under house arrest in china. he was all smiles in new york when he called on china hurts to to observe the rule of law. >> it's not that there's no laws. it's that they are not being enforced and the second question is the judicial agencies are not being told to enforce the law. they are being told to do things illegally. >> his journey to america after fleeing his chinese captainors and taking refuge in the u.s. ambassador said he wants to pat spotlight on it. >> can you really do coverups? no. that possibility is diminishing but for officials to ride on the constitution and i think that possibility is less and less likely to be accepted by the people. >> they say china's ability to handle critics like mr. chen guangcheng is crucial. >> for the chinese economy to succeed, it needs to rebound and reform and the only way it can succeed is if people like chen and those he represents, those getting the short end of the stick are empowered to have their voices heard. >> chen guangch

i think the one case was wukan, another is chen guangcheng. also -- actually, bosulai -- it was so interesting to watch the coverage of the downfall of the mayor of chongqing. there were just these really salacious stories that came out in the first couple weeks. about somehow, i think the chinese government somehow diverted the media, international media's attention to this affair between boshi li's wife and this british guy who got her son into boarding school in britain. and it seemed to go -- you know, the chinese government has often done that with its own people. blamed -- blamed -- after the downfall of a leader, they'll scapegoat the wife to maintain the integrity of the -- and the reputation of the leadership of the party. so they took the sort of attention off bochi li and put it on this like salacious affair. it was sort of similar to after how intra done died and they put his wife on trial. i thought it was one of the most, like -- most interesting times when you could see the -- the chinese spinmasters manipulating the internation

chen guangcheng couldn't thank american diplomats enough. he even phoned secretary clinton to personally thank her. for their part, the americans seemed delighted to have ended a standoff that began six days ago when chen escaped from house arrest and took refuge in the u.s. embassy. then, as chen was take on the a chinese hospital to be reunited with his family the wheels started to come off a deal which was supposed to have allowed him to remain in china free of persecution. justice chris johnson-- who, until two weeks ago, was the c.i.a.'s top china analyst-- predicted it would. >> in terms of trying to negotiate with the chinese a means to guarantee his safety within china, there's too much chance the chinese regime would renege and the administration would look terrible. >> reporter: from his hospital room, chen called western reporters and fellow dissidents saying he'd been coerced into leaving the safety of the american embassy. chen was also quoted as saying he now fears for his safety and that of his family and wants to come to the

guangcheng is now one of the most high-profiled human rights activists in the world. studying in new york and in a public platform. the question is there whether it suits the chinese authorities to are have him on another continent. chinese-americans have been able to follow this story closely. usually little news about chinese political prisoners reaches new york. >> guangcheng is the exception because his news is getting media and now china can't just, you know, imprison him because they know -- everyone knows, everyone in the world is watching. >> chen guangcheng's treatment when he returns to china will be a test of the authority's commitment to human rights. >> you're watching bbc world news america. still to come on tonight's program, president george w. bush makes a return visit to the white house and for one day smiles between the two parties. in london, prince charles has been watching the final preparations for this weekend's diamond jubilee river pageant on the thames. hundreds of thousands are expected to line the river to watch the boats. just one event i

you should never have harbored chen guangche guangcheng, but also confirming that chen guangcheng has left the embassy voluntarily. we're hearing reports that he's been taken to a medical facility in beijing, where he's getting treatment, but also crucially being reunited with his family. remember chen guangcheng has been suffering ill health for some time now. speaking to his friends and supporters, they've been complaining for months that he was not getting the proper medical treatment while he was being kept under house arrest. one of the concerns after he fled was that he get the medical treatment that he so desperately needs and are concerned about ongoing health issues. the other concern was his family, what was going to happen to them when the authorities realized that chen had fled? we'd heard reports of clashes between the family members and security. the family was being locked down inside the village. we were just at the village 24 hours ago and saw evidence of that, a lot of security on the ground. we were followed. we were chased. we were ultimately chased out of the vill

chen guangcheng hur yoiedly taken from the hospital. he and his wife and two children are aboard united airlines flight 88 as we speak. the flight is scheduled to arrive in newark, new jersey 6:30 eastern time n a written statement, state department spokesmen said we can confirm that chen guangcheng and his wife and two children departed china and are on en route to the united states and he will pursue studies in the american university. we are looking forward to his arrival in the united states later today and express the appreciation in which we resolved the matter and support mr. chen's desire to study in the united states. >> his departure harks the conclusion. he did not get passports or inform them of the details until they got to the airport. he was not happy about leave worried about retaliation against his extended family back home. guangcheng got recognition for the disabled and fighting about rural abortion . he was convicted in 2006 on what his supporters say were fabricated charges . he was put on house arrest from which he

china has said that the black activist chen guangcheng -- blind activist chen guangcheng can apply to study abroad. he has been offered a fellowship from new york university. this report does contain flash photography. >> this is the way china deals with dissent, silencing its. police clamping down. right outside of the hospital where chen guangcheng is being held. the instant his thought she was brought to the hospital by america -- he was brought to the hospital by american diplomats. this caused a crisis between america and china. he is one of the most famous activists, detained for seven years, been savagely, exposing human rights abuses. -- beaten savagely, exposing human rights abuses. last night, he made a desperate call to u.s. congressmen. he appealed for help. he said that china had broken their promise to guarantee his freedom and safety, and he wanted to go to america. the u.s. deputy ambassador was prevented from seeing mr. chen. the mobile phones he had for him were left on the doorstep. the way was barred by plane closed -- by plain-clothed thug. china announced that he

embassy to the chinese citizen chen guangcheng into the embassy in an irregular manner.hina expresses its strong dissatisfaction over this. there was interference in china's domestic affairs, and this is totally unacceptable to china. >> the u.s. also faced criticism after a report that chen was pressured to leave the embassy and diplomats left him alone at the hospital. the u.s. rejects this. >> he never asked for asylum at any point while he was at the embassy. even in his video that he released, he said he wanted to be a freedom fighter in china. even the activist friends that he contacted before he came to the embassy reaffirm and made all these statements that he does not want to come to the united states. the thing is the it is apparent that he has had some change of heart. we have to deal with that. >> the u.s. now faces a tricky diplomatic situation. chen says he wants to leave and he would like the americans to help him. >> at least 34 people killed in nigeria after an attack at the cattle market. >> reports say gunmen armed with explosives burned the market to

beijing and washington at spar over chen guangcheng. >> thugs in cairo blamed for at least 11 deaths.> the moment of truth, nicolas sarkozy meets his presidential contender in a prime-time tv debate. >> it is a diplomatic drama straining ties between beijing and washington, and it is not over yet. >> after days of being in hiding, the human rights activist, chen guangcheng, has left the usoc in beijing. he says threats made him leave. >> he told the ap news agency that chinese officials threatened to send his family away if he refused to leave u.s. protection. beijing denies that, and it has lashed out at the u.s. for meddling in its affairs. >> now chen says he wants to leave china, and he is appealing to washington for help. >> chen guangcheng was brought to this hospital after leaving the u.s. and the sea in beijing. originally both the u.s. and china said the blind legal activist left of his own accord to seek medical treatment and be reunited with his family. on wednesday morning, his lawyer made no mention of the alleged threats. he pointed out that chen had not years. the activ

and chen guangcheng fears being kidnapped and incarcerated again. he does not trust china's assurances. his family wants to leave china. >> for more on the situation of chen guangcheng and its impact on the relationship between washington and beijing, i was joined by a national correspondent of the atlantic monthly and the author of the soon-to-be published book "china airborne." what more can you tell us? >> they are still not revealing the exact terms that convinced mr. chen to leave u.s. custody. you would have thought he would have considered that will for he made this run. we do not know what kind of threats he had in mind. >> do you think those threats are real? that he and his family are in danger? >> probably not at this moment. at least not for now. the world's attention is focused on his family. for the months ahead, it is a difficult situation. >> there are reports he has changed his mind and is seeking asylum. what support can he expect from the u.s.? >> if he can make it physically to u.s. territory again, which the embassy in beijing i

the case of the dissident cheng guangcheng. how do people feel how chinese authorities have handled that case? >> it is very ironic in the sense that it is the american government who tried to negotiate the safety and freedom of a chinese citizen. the chinese government is detaining illegally its own citizens and harassing people who tried to visit him and put him under house arrest for more than three years. then when he ran off to the american consulate, the american government tried to ensure his safety. it is ironic. it is the duty to defend their own citizens but they oppress their citizens and illegally detained them. we support his case and demand a full investigation of why he was illegally detained. >> it has been 15 years since hong kong was handed over to china as a special administrative region. -- region. did you ever see the tensions be resolved? >> i do not think the tensions can be resolved unless the chinese government go on democracy. we do not believe that freedom can be guaranteed. for rule in china. our fre

chen guangcheng, the blind boy that escaped to the united states. and he had wrote about it on his favorite porn site. and apparently this site has learned some great techniques of getting around the great fire wall of china. and as a result it used those to create a vibrant forum. and a lot of people on their e-mail list and constantly sending out sources of their web address. >> new idea for the website. that's awesome. that has to be the overwhelming good news, the internet and all ways to get past the great firewall of china. that's huge. it's hopeful. >> i have these shadows on the cave wall. but chinese journalists come through washington and come by the office to visit. and if you watch the kind of questions you get asked. when i moved back to the west in '99, and most toured across the west and shop in century 21. and today people come into my office and tweet what we say. and probably not tweet worthy but that never stopped anyone. and they ask questions about business models and how we manage public relations and with the government and wh