" the way in which the counsel for folks at guantanamo are treated. these are good americans who are trying to do the right thing. they are -- they aspire to the highest standards and principles of their legal profession. and for some reason or another they come away feeling very disturbed by the way they've been treated by their own government. >> since xhi from a corporate law firm, they call me directly. >> you understand? >> yes, and they're not shy about that. so it's something i'm very sensitive to. >> thank you, chairman. >> senator hatch has a follow-up question. >> yeah, i've been concerned about this miranda matter. while i know both of you stated that miranda warnings should not be provided to detainees captured on the battlefield, that does not address the fact that there would be some miranda problems, especially if article 3 courts, you know, are to be the preferred venue for prosecution. i staunchly oppose any notion that troops in the middle of the battlefield be required to administer warnings to captured combatants. but can either or

beyond guantanamo. one would have hoped that it was a pretty straightforward solution to come up with. you know, that the prisoners should be given a fair trial and given representation and legal rights under the rule of law. both of those task forces need extra time -- the first six months, the interrogation one, another two months. so, disappointing. >> lot of countries would take them, even the american people will not want them to >. -- lots of countries will not take them, even the american people will not want them. >> i think one of the issues is that america says it will not take anybody, and it is many european countries see that, they say if america will lead to them, why should we? we had reprieve had said for a long time that europe has to assist obama, it cannot simply condemn guantanamo. it has to be willing to take -- it could be brought against them, and the charges had not been brought. we would said that europe has a position to play here. >> it is difficult, though. we have heard stor

guantanamo is the best run facility is that true? >> yes, it is.i agree that the professionalism of our personnel there is remarkable. >> to the guard force families who may be listening. when your loved one goes through everyday at guantanamo bay is making a sacrifice. i do think it is important. i take it to be one of the main reasons we are doing this work is to enhance the legity massy. i agree. the last thought is i can't believe frankly given the supreme court cases that if you close guantanamo mai bay and move inside the united states and perform a military trial like we did in world war ii. if we close guantanamo bay and move the detape ys within the united states that they will be conferred upon them thanks we are recommending even if the commissions were held in the united states. not changing the die nm yiks the court would apply. we think when we are proposing will pass muster in the united states. senator, we are not suggesting that the full range we would apply depending on location. we have referring to voluntariness. when you look a

not only me, but of the portions of guantÁnamo to talk a little bit about guantÁnamo.so, i have a concept, i work for all things. this is very easy form me. i got my public affairs director. he tells me where to speak, where to go, things like that. this audience, i believe that there's going to be a lot of questions that you might have for me. also, i cannot, we are peers because he tells me where to go, when to go house to do it and i just stand up here. thank you very much for inviting us over here. guantanamo is a real true joint force, and we have all the service and we want to talk a little bit about that, and i am at this moment want to join, so not to miss anybody. there are five service representatives in our command. however, there are many low enforcement that are also incorporated in the guantanamo bay should. for approximately, i say here, 30 minutes, but maybe it will be 20. i guarantee you that, okay? but i will answer everybody's questions. in a few minutes i will explain how this and other elements support daily operations with the task force of wonton

the judge went through that at guantanamo. i am advised that in practice many of our military judges have gone through the voluntariness exercise. >> can you speak to the progress of the guantanamo review task force? i think there were 779 people who were detained at the -- at guantanamo. 544, as i understand, have been transferred with 229 remaining. is that a fairly accurate number as far as you know? >> those numbers sound accurate to me, senator. >> do we know the status of the remaining detainees? i understand that there are those that could be tried under article 2 or 3 courts. do we know how many have already been determined to be, let's say, under article 3? because i understand article 3 they would be coming to federal courts for prosecution. >> at this point we have not completed our reviews, so i don't have precise numbers for you. but i think it is fair to assume that at the end of the review we will have detainees in the five categories that the president outlined in his may 21 speech. there will be some prosecute

some of them talked about guantanamo bay.t's hard to form any hard and fast conclusions that have any statistical empirical value but i think it is fair to say that guantanamo became a jihadists propaganda tool to recruit people to the cause and to that extent it has become a national security liability for the united states. >> i miss stoke the was in ms. pearlstein's statements i apologize for asking. my time just expired but i think i could ask ms. pearlstein could you answer -- could you provide enlightenment on the basis for this statement? >> sure, the bases on the president's statement is what you're asking. obviously i don't have any personal knowledge with the president in particular was basing his statement on. the reason i believe this statement is several fold. and i would caution it's difficult to quantify, you know we don't have any way of having any knowledge worldwide population is of al qaeda members currently, but the evidence i found most persuasive in this respect were at least threefold. first is testimon

let's say at guantanamo or a u.s. military base on the mainland. there are still to under 29 detainees being held. only 11 have been transferred in the last six months. -- there are still 229 detainees being held. that gives you an idea of how difficult that is for barack obama. you get the sense that the timeline of promising to close down guantanamo by january will slip. it is a very difficult promise to make that happen within six months. >> from guantanamo bay. in the middle east, two weeks since the american forces pulled out of barack's -- the rocky's towns and cities. -- iraq's towns and cities. normal life is still something of a relative concept. >> american forces see their military what trot, and american culture appears to be taken -- from iraq, and american culture appears to be taking root. they host one of the first ever performances of homegrown rabb. -- rap. >> it is not so bad. and there are not so many in that crowd. >> things are a lot better than they used to be. >> there is all that stuff. it is cool. it is cold. >> so is life

everyone wants to close guantanamo. let's get it done. let's make the bureaucracy work and impose a deadline on doing so. that's what i think the leadership should be doing. >> well, i understand what you're saying but again, as so many of my colleagues having been there, having seen the facility, having been told how much money we've spent there and, quite frankly, still spending and still building down there which is insane, but anyway, in this day and age, i think that's, you know, part of the problem a lot of us have that we can't sort of redefine what the reality is. thank you, mr. chairman. thank you. >> i thank the gentleman. before calling mr. mckin, let me urge our witnesses that should you have a additional materials you would like to submit to our committee, feel free to do so. but it would be very helpful if you could do it within 10 days of today. plus, the recommendations i referred to a few days ago. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. and thank you very much for letting us continue. i know this is a very important issue

naval station there at guantanamo bay. they are conducting a lot of operations within the 45 square mile area. there is a joint task force one of guantanamo. there are just over two dozen people doing missions with joint task force. -- 2000 people doing missions with the joint task force. that is the group during the mission we have been discussing here specifically. >> the task force is totally separate from guantanamo bay. we're talking about the detainee operations. we have to separate both subject. >> [inaudible] civilian employees are doing what the military has lucked out over the years. [inaudible] >> pardon me? >> can people be stationed there and not have anything to deal with the detainees? >> yes. >> do you know what the cost of the facilities are for the detainees? >> i am managing a budget of to let a 95. -- 295. >> [inaudible] >> the facility costs about 47 million. the other one about 47 50 million. to under 95 million. -- to under 95 million. -- 295 million. >> to talk about the ritual of the soldiers per t

this is president bush's take on guantanamo in june of 2006. >> i'd like to close guantanamo. no question guantanamo sends a signal to some of our friends, provides an excuse, for example, to say the united states is not upholding the values that it encourages other countries to adhere to. >> i'd like to close guantanamo. vice president cheney was in favor of keeping it open. june, 2005. should guantanamo bay's detention center be shut down and the detainees moved elsewhere? mr. cheney, no. because -- mr. cheney, because it's a vital facility. after president bush announced that he wanted to close guantanamo, mr. cheney had this to say, this is july, 2007. >> general powell said he'd close guantanamo yesterday. would you? >> no. no. i think you need to have some place to hold those individuals who have been captured during the global war on terror. >> what's important here is that dick cheney lost the guantanamo argument as it was happening. but even now, after leaving office, he's continuing to make his case. >> i think they need to keep guantanamo open. i think it's a mistak

bay -- such as the closure of guantanamo bay. we had hope that a major report addressing these critical issues would have been released earlier this week as required by the executive orders and the beginning of the year. and stick, the agency task force that was established to reduce reports received a six month extension and issued a preliminary report. the report reiterates the proposed changes to the military commission system and begins to describe the process and criteria that the attorney general will use to determine whether to prosecute a detainee in federal criminal court or in the military tribunals. it does not make recommendations on the details of guantanamo's closure. [unintelligible] they are evaluating all the files of the guantanamo detainees and finalize their work. they will wait -- they will recommend policies to conform to american values. i want to offer a few words of advice. the closure of the detention center of guantanamo will help restore our country's reputation of moral standing around the globe, i am

guantanamo commission to resume the work. what ever happened to obama's pledge to shut the place down? china and is long, how the uigur violence could put chinese working in muslim countries and danger of terrorism. paradise lost? how idyllic islands can be soon exploited for oil and gas. it is 7:00 a.m. in washington, midday in london and 2:00 p.m. in jerusalem. where a group of israeli soldiers who took part in the assault on gaza earlier this year released a report that the army was guilty of abuses. it comes from a group, breaking the silence. some of the accusations, such as using palestinian civilians as human shields, may even amount to war crimes. but the incidents are not sourced or dated, making cooperation difficult. we will be talking to them. but first, this report. >> the israeli army had a ready answer to claims of war crimes in gaza. this was palestinian propaganda. now these accusations are being made by israeli soldiers. it was policy to do this to gaza, says breaking the silence. their testimony describes r

a new battle over what to do with the 200 plus detainees who are at guantanamo bay. is accusing the obama administration of planning to give terror suspects the same rights as american citizens. is that true? congress is dealing with the health-care overhaul and a supreme court nominee. lawmakers are managing to add another thing on their agenda, college football. is anything more important than college football? we will get into that. don't touch that dial. active crystals dissolve quickly on your tongue. with an extra pain relieving booster, it's ready to go to work faster than caplets or tablets. it's a whole new way from bayer to dissolve pain... fast. new bayer quick release crystals. in a bold citrus taste. expect relief fast. shepard: back in the day, it was just a little festival in a small spanish village. ernest hemingway made it famous. spain, day one of the running of the bulls in pamplona. some 2000 people turning out for the run. several people going down along the way but no word of any serious injuries. no one has died in this festival since 1995. the

recruiting websites, the pictures on those websites are pictures of abu ghraib and pictures of guantanamo bay. i don't think they're making a highly specific argument what the procedural rules -- >> i apologize for interrupting, but really what that would suggest is anything that they object to about our western way of life, we should compromise because it might be a reason for them to recruit each other. >> absolutely not. i absolutely disagree with that statement. >> i glad -- >> the problem is, we don't get a choice in the united states about what our enemies decide to do. what we can do to the extent possible and i think in this case the case of the treatment of detainees in the trial process we use it's incredibly possible to minimize the risk that what we're going to do is going to make us more enemies than we already have. >> let me just raise one or two points very quickly. first, in regards to use of article 3 courts with terrorists in the united states, there's been no effort made by the previous administration to use -- to prosecute detainees at guantanamo bay under article thr

lawyers who represent guantanamo inmates claim the prison itself, indefinite detention without beingonvicted of any crime, drives them to terrorism. but cbs consultant and former bush administration official juan zarate says the ones being released now are more likely to be genuine terrorists. >> you've had individuals who are release who'd are harder core, more tied to the tryst networks and more ideologically committed. >> reporter: some have hone up in al qaeda videos and at least one carried out a suicide bombing. others are back in afghanistan fighting americans. the number three taliban commander in southern afghanistan, where 4,000 marines are currently fighting, was once a prisoner at guantanamo as was the man who is now chief of the taliban's military committee. >> the u.s. government has to take calculated risks and to a certain extent rely on the good faith and effort of other governments, and sometimes that calculus just doesn't work out. >> reporter: defense officials expect the number of former inmates who return to terrorism to go even higher before guantanamo is close

we do have the guantanamo bay detainee's. with the federal bill, every detainee would wind up in the federal court. the supreme court ruled that the habeas corpus rights apply to the detainee's. we need to look at creating uniformity to these rights. do we want these petitions to allow for lawsuits against our own troops? there could be a medical malpractice lawsuits brought under the old system. we can streamline the habeas corpus process. i would like to conclude with this. no one should be detained in america for an indefinite period of time that does not go to a civilian court or military court without an independent judicial review. i do not want people to believe that folks are in jail because of people like dick cheney or another politician said so. it does not bother me that all of the cases will go to civilian judges and that the military and the c.i.a. will have to prove that these people are dangerous and the enemy. once that has been done, i think it's crazy to arbitrarily set you have to let them go. if our intel

in dealing with the prisoners in guantanamo, they are really talking about possibly keeping an open,ding them forever, detention indefinitely without trial. and if barack obama does that, i think he will start to make some of the same mistakes bush had. tavis: for those who have not been following this case like you have, what is the status now with specific regard to guantanamo? >> torture has been abolished by obama. we are now observing the loss, the geneva convention. -- we are now observing the law is, at the geneva convention. that has been done. the problem is, obama got left with this population of prisoners in guantanamo whose rights were so violated by the bush administration that it is very hard bring the back into the courts. they have been tortured before. you cannot just put them on trial because their rights have been violated. the evidence that is against them has come from people who were tortured. those confessions should be thrown out in any decent american court. the problem is the evidence is tainted, the cases are tainted by everything bush did before, but these

it is a ve difficu promise to make that happen within six months. >> fr guantanamo bay. in the middl east,wo weeks sincthe americ forces pulled ouof bara's -- the rocky's towns and cities. --ira's towns and cities. normal life is still something of a relative concept. >> amecan forces see their military what tr, and american culture appearto be taken -- from iraq, and amican culture appears to be taking ro. th host onef thfirst ever performances of hogrown rabb. -- r. >> it is not so bad. and therere not so many in that crowd. >>things are a lot better than ey used to be. >> there isall that stuff. its cool. it is cold. >> so iife returning to rmal? an ordinary man providing an everyday rvice for his community. but just the other day, as ty are right to work, he discovered a bomb planted outside the bakery shop. >> the bag was only a few mers away. if it hadone off, the ople theakery, the restaurant nextdoor would have been hurt. >> he hacome to expect such random dger, but he says clearlthis is not normal life. one of th rest barometers of e sense of security here in ba

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if now, the american administration is missing a deadline for guantanamo bay. six years ago, they signed up a task force in charge of handling the details. now they're asking to finance reports that were supposed to be done by right now. republicans say is another sign that the administration has no plans for the detainees still at guantanamo bay. they say this is washington, it must set deadlines, nothing will happen. so is this in jeopardy, as well? the white house says it is still on track for january showdown but there is a debate about what the meaning of closed is, and with all of that, catherine herridge is live on the hill. what does it mean? >> 1 contacts as it may depend on what your definition of closed is. if it means there is no detainees left at guantanamo, or if they will stay there until trials are over. the white house did not shed any light on the issue, insisting that closure just means closure. >> we're not interested in changing the name and ownership. the reason why it is so important to do this is the symbol that it has become throughout

go to guantanamo. the judges are going to make sure the people who are guilty or convicted, for innocents are released. all the politics are out of it. that is one of the untested ideas. that has been out to the box. i hope to see the attorney general and white house support this. we have to find a plan. what he has done -- now we are talking about a strategy without the details. that is very problematic. >> this is an area which has a fortune on the left and a certain amount of praise from conservatives. is he finding a middle ground on this? >> he said several times that when he looks of the idea foreign-policy he looks at george h. a w. bush. it is a foreign policy that a lot of democrats and republicans can now embrace. he is a big position with afghanistan. that was a called a divided people with in the it ministration quite seriously. i happen to be over there. the thing that kept hearing from people on the ground, from the military, who a lot of which had surged in iraq, and their general view w

. >> what are the steps and time lines to closing the prison at guantanamo bay? >> the president, as you know, has signed an executive order that would close guantanamo on january 22, 2010. the line of states and communities that are willing to have the folks at guantanamo come to their area seems to be a very short one. [laughter] like nonexistent. i expected 5 the hundred 35 separate pieces of legislation in congress saying, not in my district or state -- are expected 535 separate pieces of legislation. we need to find a place. closing guantanamo is complex and difficult, but the reality is we have dozens and dozens of dangerous terrorists in maximum- security prisons in the u.s. and not one has ever escaped. as i said during the bush administration, interestingly enough, guantanamo is probably one of the best prisons in the world today because of all the things that have been done to improve it. nonetheless, it will, i believe, forever be tainted. it is something that can be used against us by our adversaries. therefore, i certainly agree with the president an

they promised to close guantanamo in january. the maximum security prisons near military bases are given preference because of the military commissions are held in the u.s., the detainees can be transferred over a short distance. jon: catherine herridge, thanks. developing now, the exiled president of honduras emmanuel sugaya -- manuel zelaya making a brave move, moving back into his home country. zelaya sped toward a border town from a nicaraguan town, saying he carried the white flag of peace. supporters gathered there, urging him on, while armed soldiers threatened to arrest him if he entered the country. during a press conference, secretary of state hillary clinton spoke out about the incident. >> president zelaya's efforts to reach the border are reckless. it does not contribute to the broader effort to restore democratic and constitutional order in the honduras crisis. jon: president zelaya was forced out of honduras in his pajamas in a military coup on june 28. the honduran supreme court ordered his arrest after he was acc

boycotting today's hearing at guantanamo bay. some of the 9/11 families were there, and they have a message for our president. we're live at gitmo with details. plus more bombshells tonight about south carolina's love-struck governor. the evidence as mark sanford is again in the cube. he was missing in action long before he admitted to having that affair with his soulmate in argentina. my grandkids are a great reason for me to keep my bones strong but even with calcium, vitamin d, and exercise, i still got osteoporosis. i never thought i could do more than stop my bone loss. then my doctor told me i could, with once-monthly boniva. boniva works with your body to help stop and reverse bone loss. studies show, after one year on boniva, nine out of ten women stopped and reversed their bone loss. i know i did. (announcer) don't take boniva if you have low blood calcium, severe kidney disease or can't sit or stand for at least one hour. follow dosing instructions carefully. stop taking boniva and tell your doctor if you have difficult

first, on guantanamo. president obama took office and realized that we had a serious problem in guantanamo. it is a safe and secure facility but it has become a recruiting tool for terrorists around the world. that is not just his conclusion, it is the conclusion of people that i respect very much. among those who called for the closing of guantanamo include the following: general colin powell, former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, secretary of state under president george w. bush; republican senators john mccain and lindsey graham, and former secretaries of state, james baker, c rice, and henry kissinger, and defense secretary robert gates who served president bush and president obama, admiral mike mullen chairman of the joint chiefs of staff; and general david petraeus. these are not politicians. these are men who represent both sides of the political aisle, democrat and republican, who have concluded that keeping guantanamo open, unfortunately, is going to continue to give encouragement to the r

bay, once the prison is closed. >> those plans are a crucial step in the process of closing guantanamond the panel says their report won't be ready for another six months so they missed the delay and now another six months added on to that and on his third day in office the president ordered gitmo to be closed by the end of the year. two task forces are set up to plan the closing, have already asked for extensions. officials say they've made substantial progress on the closing of the facility which holds 229 suspected terrorists and they're still in custody but is it still possible to close gitmo by the end of the year? here to make their case adam serwer from "the american prospect" and mark prebscott from the editorial page of "the examiner." thank you for joining us >> thank you very much. >> mark, let me start off with you on this one. the deadline missed and you have them asking for several more months to get it done. how crucial is this to the process? >> i think it's very crucial because what happened here is i think very clearly the administration has run head-on into the reali

with the court did was, at a very narrow exception for guantanamo. because it is de facto even if not under the complete control of the united states government so this is a very narrow exception to the rule that alienate enemy combatants did not have habeas rights cannot not apprehended or detained in the united states. in this case they are detained in what amounts to the united states, that is guantanamo. the other area that i think has been misrepresented in the media is the suggestion that guantanamo decision is going to turn the federal courts into the quasi criminal investigations of terrace and we're going to have around the rights of all sorts of evidentiary nonsense going on with the terms of the course into a circus and that is not what he this is about your he muses about a threshold determination as to whether these folks are the enemy combatants and when you are detain you are one of three things either an on command in which republics innocent not to be released or you are a lawful conduct and which we call p.o.w.'s in which case you c

. >>> as the suspected 9/11 copirators go before military commissions in guantanamo bay, relatives of the victims head to cuba to go face-to-face with the men accused of plotting the attack. >> that couples a -- that includes a couple from leesberg, virginia and we have more. >> reporter: the family are going to guantanamo bay. for the first time they will come first to face with the 9/11 conspirators whose case is before the military commission. >> how can i walk away from having to listened to them. i'm angry and it's still been eight years. >> i'm going to get to see it myself and i don't have to rely on what the media wants to say or what the government wants to release. >> reporter: brian lost his mom and step dad on flight 77 that slammed into the pentagon. on that day his brother went to their parents home to confirm it was they are plane. >> and then we realized that that was --hat that was their flight. >> reporter: and melissa lost her boyfriend, a new york silty -- city firefighter. >> i knew he was doing what he wanted to do. >> just in will be3 in september and diane will

-run prison at guantanamo bay. officials say they will not meet today's self-imposed deadline to review interrogation and detention policies. much of the day focuses on the status of dozens of detainees. many considered too dangerous to release, but too difficult to try in civilian or military courts. although the white house said it's committed to throwsiclosin facility by january, the delay threatens the president's timeline. >>> the war in afghanistan continues to take an increasingly heavy toll on american forces. the deaths of four more u.s. troops on mondays makes july the single deadliest month of the now eight-year war. at least 30 american service members have died this month. that includes those killed yesterday by a roadside bomb in the eastern part of the country. just three weeks into the month of july, the number of deaths already surpasses the figure for all of june 2008. that's when 28 were killed. the death toll for all coalition forces, that includes british and canadian troops, is at 55 this mont

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holder says many guantanamo bay detainees will be prosecuted in military courts and a significant amountoned on american soil. >> i'm confident that we can safely hold the people and not endanger them in the communities in which they'll be held. >> but as he took a television crew for the first time into his bullet proof secure office, he laid it down. >> you can say i'm right or you can say i'm wrong. but i drew a line. and when you start to say that i'm dishonest or that you question my integrity, then you have a fight on your hands. >> and holder as attorney general often finds himself at isissues beyonthe beltway, like race andndololing, whi pled bacack toational headline with the arre of a a black profefessor at hihomome ba ite police officer. while e declined d to te e sid, holder acknowledged oo had been racially y profiled. >> ias driving from n yorork to washingto stopped oa trunk of my car.opeth the popolicece offer said he wawanted to search it t for wean i i rembmber a as s i got t bab car and cocontntinued on the joy how w mew mimilluate -- humiliai felt. >> he said that mor

. >>> also hitting some snags is the president's plan to close the prison at guantanamo bay by january. two task forces have been work r working on longterm detention plans for gitmo detainees. today was the deadline for outlines completed. one group has been given a two-month extension. the other has received sikts months to finish its work. an official says the administration is on pace to meet the january closure deadline. >>> in afghanistan this morning, the u.s. military a's taliban militants have launched an attack in the eastern afghan cities. as for u.s. troops, july has become the deadliest month of the war so far. 30 americans have died. there are 58 coalition forces killed this month. and troops are sparing no effort in the search for fooifd berdall. >>> robert gates has announced a temporary expansion of the army. for three years, the service would be increased by 22,000 soldiers, bringing the total force to 569,000. gates said the move would help offset the strains from the wars in afghanistan and iraq, and would give soldiers more time at home between deployments. >>> sec

these are separate issues from the closure at guantanamo. but the president announced he wanted to close guantanamo and less than 5% detainees have been successfully transferred. the task force is composed of the justice department and others, and last week, the attorney general told fox that he believes they would meet the deadline set forth by the president. let's listen. >> i'm confident that by january 22, it will be closed. we're in the process of making determinations about remaining detainees at guantanamo. >> this delay is not going well with defense attorneys. back when i was in court last week, one said that as far as he can see, this administration's idea of justice is to have none at all. jon: what should we be watching for on this issue as these next six months past? >> it means that you're going to turn the key in the law, all the cheneys, that is it, or will it mean something different, that no more taken and those there will slowly be taken out as countries are willing to take them. jon: maybe they can do what alcatraz did an

some have called it afghanistan's guantanamo bay. it is at the center of a major u.s.iew of the entire afghan prison system. "the new york times" first quarter -- first reported on the review. more mainstream prisoners may need to be kept separate from those accused of extremism. then there is the issue of abuse. last month, the bbc spoke to 27 former detainees. they claim to have been mistreated. >> we were thrown on the ground and shot at for 16 days and 60 nights. i was forced to stand. they would not let me sleep. the only stopped this when my feet were so swollen that i could not stand. >> the pentagon denies the specific allegations. but it does not want a repeat of what happened in iraq. the evidence of ill treatment handed out by u.s. soldiers there did huge damage to america's reputation that has been used as a recruiting tool for islamic extremists. there's also the issue of the status of the prisoners. human-rights activists have argued they are in a worse position than those at guantanamo bay. >> they maintain they have the right to take people from any par

i think a lot of the underlying things that he has done, for instance, guantanamo bay.'s announced that he's going to shut it down but retain renditions and another bush-era policies. i think underneath you're seeing somebody who wants this country -- who thinks the fundamentals of this country are -- chris: pete? >> you can't say he's conservative in the ability to which he's willing to let the government get involved in private industry. in the auto bill industry, the banking industry, that is a huge departure. chris: thanks. a lost thinking here. joan biskupic, thank you, dan rather, thank you, helene cooper and thank you, pete williams. thanks for watching. see you here next week. captioned by the naonal captionin (voice 1) we've detected an anomaly... (voice 2) how bad is it? (voice 1 traffic's off the chart... (v) 2 ce eythpi e 'rnging more targets... (voice 3) isolate... prevent damage... (voice 2) got 'em. (voice 3) great exercise guys. let's run it again.

go to guantanamo. the judges are going to make sure the people who are guilty or convicted, for innocents are released. all the politics are out of it. that is one of the untested ideas. that has been out to the box. i hope to see the attorney general and white house support this. we have to find a plan. what he has done -- now we are talking about a strategy without the details. that is very problematic. >> this is an area which has a fortune on the left and a certain amount of praise from conservatives. is he finding a middle ground on this? >> he said several times that when he looks of the idea foreign-policy he looks at george h. a w. bush. it is a foreign policy that a lot of democrats and republicans can now embrace. he is a big position with afghanistan. that was a called a divided people with in the it ministration quite seriously. i happen to be over there. the thing that kept hearing from people on the ground, from the military, who a lot of which had surged in iraq, and their general view w

go to guantanamo. the judges are going to make sure the people who are guilty or convicted, for innocents are released. all the politics are out of it. that is one of the untested ideas. that has been out to the box. i hope to see the attorney general and white house support this. we have to find a plan. what he has done -- now we are talking about a strategy without the details. that is very problematic. >> this is an area which has a fortune on the left and a certain amount of praise from conservatives. is he finding a middle ground on this? >> he said several times that when he looks of the idea foreign-policy he looks at george h. a w. bush. it is a foreign policy that a lot of democrats and republicans can now embrace. he is a big position with afghanistan. that was a called a divided people with in the it ministration quite seriously. i happen to be over there. the thing that kept hearing from people on the ground, from the military, who a lot of which had surged in iraq, and their general view w

information is a key report of a plan to shut down guantanamo bay. what does this mean for the executive order to close the prison camp by january? >>> and friends and family of a soldier captured by the taliban telling him to stand tall and stand firm this morning. his entire town rallying around the family. and the pentagon doing everything it can to rescue bowe bergdahl. >>> plus, the white house versus arizona. arizona's jon kyl says the stimulus should be canceled. the white house tells arizona no problem. and john mccain joins us live just ahead. >>> first, president obama is facing a fierce backlash from the left this morning. the white house admits it will miss a deadline set for today on a pair of reports detailing what to do with terrorism suspects. it's raising serious doubts about the president's first executive order, made two days after his inauguration, promising to shut down gitmo within a year. >> first executive order that we're signing, an order to effect the appropriate disposition of individuals currently detained by the departme

and obama said i don't want to do it now because i need to come up with a plan for detainee's in guantanamo. give me a six month delay and the judge said no, you have to proceed right now and instead of proceeding obama dropped the case and now that body is protected by double jeopardy and he offical they cannot begin the death penalty now cannot even be considered for this guy who killed 17 u.s. sailors. >> [inaudible] >> what? yeah, why does he have a right is a good question but he does and what obama is doing now is releasing people from guantanamo and he has pointed to the justice department people that are aggressive and smart and strong and widely in the task of writing out the interrogators who protected us from terrorists for the last eight years not going after the terrorists but going after the investigators that have kept a safe. right now we are watching obama blither and dither has iran fulminates and there's a freedom movement going on in the world's most dangerous country a freedom movement that could spare the world it's likely first atomic war and he is doing nothing. actu

we might get people who represent battered women, people who rent the detainees at guantanamo. we might get people like that on the federal bench. and that is what we need. and by the way, i think president obama has some sense of this. president obama said in a speech to the league of women voters, we need somebody who has the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom. the empathy to understand what it's like to be poor or african-american or gay or disabled, or old, and that's the criteria by which i'm going to be selecting judges. now, as i said, just because you pass the kleenex test doesn't mean you get to be a federal judge. you have to be intelligent, well schooled in the law, have to have an appropriate judicial temperment. you have to be fair-minded and there's some substantive legal problems we have right now as aa result of the conservative judges appointed to the bench by the spring republican presidents we have head and the groups like the federalist society have made to influence the appointment of federal judges and those problems

. >> i do order guantanamo will be closed. >> it was my idea to withdraw. i withdrew. >> when i realized the mistake, i paid the tax in full. >> tom made the decision. i take responsibility for this mistake. >> these were careless mistakes. they were avoidable mistakes. >> our economic crisis could become a national catastrophe. >> if we do everything right, there's still a 30% chance we're going to get it wrong. >> how many of you people want to pay for your neighbors' mort that has an extra bathroom and can't pay their bills? raise their hand. how about we all -- president obama, are you listening? >> look at this bill. this bill has got to be done by tonight. >> well, this is not a stimulus bill, this is a spending bill. what do you think a stimulus is? >> what happened to the promise that we're going to let the american people see what's in this bill for 48 hours? but nope. we don't have time to do that. >> so i shamelessly say no, i want him to fail if his agenda is a far left collectivism. >> we have always been, and i believe continue to be, a nation

a judge ruled that one of the youngest detainees at guantanamo bay must go back to afghanistan. >> ellenelva said the man was being held illegally. his attorney says he was 12 years old at the time, but the pentagon said he was around 17. attorney general eric holder has not decided whether to indictment the man which means he could be brought to the u.s. for a criminal trial. >>> several protestors were arrested in iran at the scene of a memorial. riot police fired tear gas at people who were gathered at the grave of 27-year-old nieves colton. one of the protestors killed after the june presidential election. >>> investigators found a baby alive after she was ripped from her murdered mom's womb. two people are being held on $2 million. darlene hayes was 8 months pregnant when she was killed this weekend. the friend got suspicious after seeing reports of the murdered woman. police won't say whether the suspect actually cut open the mom, but she was found with a child and police say she knew the mother. >> i can't really get into the specifics of that because this investigation is still v