invasion might begin at guantanamo. and at various times, particularly during the to the missile crisis, washington feared that the cubans with soviet encouragement and possible assistance might attack the base. there was also concerned that if the united states ever decided to leave guantanamo it might become a soviet naval facility. if you look at cuba, guantanamo is i might say described as strategically positioned to overlook those what is the when word passage between the caribbean and the land tick. it's also fairly straight shot from guantanamo down to the panama canal which of course theodore roosevelt intended to build, and perhaps equally important cuba could provide easy access to one of our major ports, the port of louisianan or you might call it the port of new orleans. and i think at various times there was concern that if the soviets were to during the cold war take over guantanamo, the port of new orleans would be another region that would be threatened and our national security concerns would focus on t

when and how well guantanamo close? i did not see an explanation of what guantanamo is., in the words of some prior to the start of this new administration, guantanamo was not closed and a five minute decision. as has been mentioned, since the administration's passage of its declaration, the executive order stating guantanamo would be closed in a year, many people have anxiously awaited is closure. many have been perplexed by the fact that has existed for more than eight years, not necessarily as a detention facility. following 9/11, within a month or so, discussions were had throughout the various military commands regarding where individuals would be transferred. there was no discussion of where they would be detained, but the folk -- the discussion focused on where these individuals could be said that would free those involved in their attention from the constraints that might be imposed by our judiciary. very simply speaking, the administration was looking for a place to send people beyond the reach of the federal courts. this is not a custodial functions. this is no

be on guantanamo, a bipartisan decoration demonstrates there is consensus for how to close guantanamo in a way that is consistent with our constitution and our country's how is. the constitution project released the report in coordination with the human rights first. it has been signed by nearly 140 former members of congress, diplomats, federal judges, prosecutors, high level military and law-enforcement officials, national security experts, and families of this attacker 11 victims. all of whom support charles of the terrorists in federal court and who oppose indefinite detention without charge. the decoration rejects the argument of those who say that we must curtail our constitution to keep our country save. it rejects the polarized politics that have been for too long letting our country astray. our speaker is a graduate of our law school and covered sports for "the harvard crimson". >> we only have two hours. >> he was a federal prosecutor and associate counsel. he earned an emmy for a legal analyst at abc and has covered legal affairs since 1993. he is the after offer who for [u

those gentleman should be sent to guantanamo bay.[applause] they have to be understood -- it has to be understood that they are illegal and the combatants. that is part of the domestic rules of engagement that we need to understand. had we take our legal system and applied to this new 21st century battle field? i want to also talk to you about something else as we head into this 2010 midterm election. there is a political battle that is going on as well in the united states of america. the set piece is conservative versus liberal but there is also an underlying aspect to that. there are irregulars on the political battlefield. it is called acorn. it is called seiu. it is called the new black panther party. all of these people who are seeking to undermine this political process, this electoral process we have here and we saw what happened when this new black panther party went to be brought up. the electoral base of the united states of america is under attack which is part of our liberty. that is a key aspect of the rules of engageme

and does he not think that guantanamo bay guantanamo bay should have been closed many years ago and shouldave done something more to close it? >> he is seeking to imitate. secretary will suffice. >> the government has stood begins guantanamo bay for a long time. but it is also a fact that the current administration and the united states are committed to closing guantanamo bay and seeking to close it as fast as possible, quite rightly. i didn't hear what he said, but in answer -- i can answer affirmatively to both ofÑi thos questions posed by my right honorable friend. with respect to using thosexd practices are continuing, it is executive o2çim that president obama has issued among other things that those practices have been completely banned by the u.s. be, and that puts them in line with our position. >> the government judges orÑi interest in the closure of guantanamo bay was soxd strong that british residents and citizens be given the chance to come back to the u.k. we did that in the case of nine british citizens and five residents. one british residents continues to reside in guantan

it has committed to closing guantanamo. and it said that it will attempt to try as many people as it can in the criminal courts. but it's still using military measures as well. and as vice president biden said it has killed 12 of al qaeda top 20 people since it has come to power. >> ifill: go ahead. >> i would agree with david if we were talking about 20023 and 2003. but i think what we have seen and including vice president biden agree og to this, the second term of the bush administration actually saw a real evolution of our counterterrorism policy. we know that water boarding was ended in 2003. the cia sites were-- woodruff: . >> ifill: vice president chaney said he favored it. >> even though he favored it, to were in essence shut in 2006. presidbig ptem year transferring those detainees to guantanamo. president bush in 2006 said he wanted to close guantanamo, and this is all, i think, corroborated by the fact that the administration is now in defense of its own policies pointing to the very continuity. the fact that the

i've been to guantanamo.it's pretty nice compared to illinois, the place and illinois where they want to put them. it would be nice and cold in the wintertime and all i can say is i imagine there will be a cry we are not here by bringing them here. >> i'm sure there will be stories about where they are incarcerated but i am thinking of books that have been written by former detainees that are passed out, testimonies on the internet that guantanamo achieved a mythic quality which helps al qaeda. >> i think the point i'm trying to make and of course i think it is easy to see that no matter what we do they are going to criticize us. >> we've got a very significant courthouse at guantanamo that could try these in the military commission. we treat them very well down there. some of them probably are treated better than they've ever been treated in their lifetime. no matter what you do, the terrorists in al qaeda and taliban and others are going to complain and say that we are not doing it right. it seems to me cra

for you -- the british security forces are accused of misleading parliament about the torture of guantanamo bay suspects. and friends at the reunited in cuba. but what chance for warmer relations with the u.s.? we will hear from our man in havana. the indian government says up to nine of its citizens, including government officials, have been killed in a series of militant suicide attacks on a guest house in the afghan capital of kabul. at least 16 people were killed in gun battles involving afghan security forces. the taliban says the carried out the attacks. from kabul, chris morris reports. >> the afghan war on the streets of kabul. the early morning calm violently interrupted. there was a car bomb, followed by other explosions. and then volleys of small arms fire. the target this time -- guest houses and hotels, all of them frequented by foreigners. for hours, heavily armed police battled against taliban gunmen. this huge security operation swung into action. people who survive the initial explosions found themselves trapped, sometimes with nowhere to run. one of these rooms, all the gl

administration also abandon the use of enemy combatants when referring to terrorists detained at guantanamo bay.

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what did the judge in guantanamo do? it on the internet. >> you're saying there's a platform in military commissions just as much as there's a platform in federal court? >> the platform comes with the territory. if you're going to have a trial, just go ahead and detain him forever if you're afraid they may not get executed or might say something in open court. come on. don't we have any faith at all in our legal system at all? >> are they still in legal limbo? i know the president has made some changes that he thinks will make them pass constitutional muster. is it more a question mark whether these would be upheld by the supreme court? >> there's another case pending that's going to go to trial in guantanamo despite the promise to close the place. i don't know but i would imagine they will appeal like the case in new york to decide whether or not the procedures in the military commissions act pass muster. it will just be delay and delay and delay. it wouldn't be in a federal court. >> most likely whatever compromise the

we can hold them in guantanamo.them in supermax, and we can do everything that is required of us as a nation in order to protect ourselves in that regard. but what has happened in this institution is you've given the american public a chance to believe that they would be afraid if you held them in certain institutions in your neighborhood. well, they've come through your neighborhood an awful lot and you evidently didn't know about it because i personally am just a little tired of your not in my backyard attitude about this particular system. we can hold terrorists and we can hold criminals and we've been doing it all of my dog career and that's 50 years as a lawyer. >> will the gentleman yield? mr. hastings: you have time. i'll reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from california. mr. dreier: mr. speaker, let me just say that my friend from goldriver, california, has been attempting to engage in a colloquy with my friend and i'd like

i think he ought to be at guantanamo.i think he ought to be tried at guantanamo and front of a military commission. they have had difficulties because i my guess is they don't want to send back to guantanamo because that would invalidate, if you will, the value of guantanamo. but my guess is, in the end he will end up being tried in front of a military commission on a military facility someplace. >> you think one time will be open when this president leaves office? >> i would not be surprised. it is a valuable facility. there was a reason why we set it up. it makes good sense. there is obviously great reluctance on capitol hill to appropriate the funds to close it down. i think guantanamo will be there for quite a long time. host: former vice president dick cheney yesterday. upper marlboro, maryland. caller: i am so surprised what dick cheney was singing, the guy who had five deferment when he was called to -- he had something more poor to do. george bush was flying around alabama. i cannot believe anything this man has t

in 2004 he was transferred to guantanamo bay.in august of 2007, then home secretary and i wrote to the u.s. secretary of state to seek mr. mohamed's release from guantanamo bay and his return to the united king depom along with four other u.k. residents. mr. mohamed was released from guantanamo a year and a half later in february of last year. mr. speaker, in may, 2008, mr. mohamed brought proceedings against the british government in an effort to secure disclosure to his legal counsel of any material held by the british government that might assist in the defense of his case before a u.s. military commission. the question in our appeal in the judgment against the divisional court was not this disclosure which we supported and secured. it was instead when the intelligence provided on a confidential basis from one state to another in absolute trust that it would be secured in the interest of open justice or whether instead the breach of trust would be so grave as to endangers intelligence sharing relationships and therefore affect

those people who wrote the torture memos or implemented them in water board at some of the guantÁnamobay detainees have a real risk of possible prosecution if their lawyers were to conclude that these violated international law. what the lawyers were trying to do was give them a golden shield, plausible deniability, the lawyer said it was legal for how can i be held responsible and that's something the obama administration is presently wrestling with. >> you call on them. >> do you think the bush administration's approach to international law did permanent damage? >> i'll let you answer that. >> is actually interesting new sf question because they're a number of former bush administration lawyers who are concerned about that possibility and are surprisingly seen it reflected in the current administration as well. michael touched on the answer to customary international law, the idea behind customary international lies the member states do it over a period of time under the belief that they are obligated to do it, it becomes law. but the opposite is true in states are pulling out of pa

i've been to guantanamo. it's pretty nice compared to illinois, where they want -- the place in illinois where they want to put them. it will be nice and cold in the wintertime. all i can say is that i imagine there will be a cry that we're not fair by bringing them here. >> yes, i'm sure there will be stories about wherever they are incarcerated, but i'm thinking of books that have been written by former detainees that are passed out, testimonies on the internet that guantanamo has achieved a sort of mythic quality which helps al qaeda. >> well, i think the point i'm trying to make is no matter what we do, they're going to criticize us. we have -- we've got a very significant courthouse down there at guantanamo that can try these in a military commission. we've got -- we treat them very, very well down there. some of them probably are treated better than they've ever been treated in their lifetimes. no matter what you do, the terrorists and al qaeda and taliban and others are going to complain and say that w

detention facility at guantanamo bay. he waselead with all charges against him dropped in february, 2009. this is about 45 minutes. >> with your permission, mr. speaker i would like to make a statement on the house on the case of mr. binyam mohamad following the judgment handed down this morning in the report of appeal. mr. speaker the court of appeals has ruled in the light of disclosures by the united states court in december, 2009 which i shall describe below, the seven paragraphs which have been redacted from the original judgment of the divisional court in this country of the 21st august, 2008 should be published. the seven paragraphs contained summaries of american intelligence relating to mr. mohamed's caisse held in the u.k.. i accept the court's ruling which concludes a very complex and various ways apparently unique case and made the relevant paragraphs available this morning on the foreign office web site. mr. speaker the judge what is significant not used in respect of the seven paragraphs, but also for import

we will bring them to justice in front of a military tribunal in guantanamo.tanamo, not a civilian court room in manhattan. çlet me close by saying this -- for many of us who were born and raised in this country, it is sometimes easy to forget how special america really is. i was raised by people who know what it is like to lose their country, by people who have a unique perspective on why elections matter or lack thereof. by people who clearly understand how different america is from the rest of the world. they have taught me this my whole life. they taught me by work -- by word and by deed, that what makes america great is that impossible everywhere else, but are possible here. why is that? it is because of the choices that people who came before us made. almost every other country in the world chose to have the government run the economy. they chose to allow government to decide which companies survived and failed. they chose to allow government to determine which industries are to be rewarded. the problem is that when government controls the economy, thos

representing a guantanamo detainee was also involved in the investigation of the cia interrogators. i mean, to me, eric holder owes it to the american people, an absolute moral obligation to the american people, and also just in his own interests, if i were in eric holder's position, i would want everyone to know i'm doing everything -- honestly, there are no conflicts of interest and let the american people decide whether or not they believe are the -- if the attorneys are in any way compromised by the representation. so this to me is arrogance on eric holder's part, just like it was arrogant for him to put the ksm trial in lower manhattan without speaking to anyone in the new york city police department, new york city administration, anybody at all involving security. megyn: what do you say to those who say this looks like a political stunt because lawyers, as you point out, you and i are both lawyers, we've both represented clients whom we don't necessarily believe. that's what you do as a lawyer, you go into court and make an argument. abraham lincoln said how he could argue for

i've been to guantanamo.e compared to illinois, where they want -- the place in illinois where they want to put them. it will be nice and cold in the wintertime. all i can say is that i imagine there will be a cry that we're not fair by bringing them here. >> yes, i'm sure there will be stories about wherever they are incarcerated, but i'm thinking of books that have been written by former detainees that are passed out, testimonies on the internet that guantanamo has achieved a sort of mythic quality which helps al qaeda. >> well, i think the point i'm trying to make is no matter what we do, they're going to criticize us. we have -- we've got a very significant courthouse down there at guantanamo that can try these in a military commission. we've got -- we treat them very, very well down there. some of them probably are treated better than they've ever been treated in their lifetimes. no matter what you do, the terrorists and al qaeda and taliban and others are going to complain and say that we're not doing i

taxpayer has already spent on guantanamo bay. this is not rocket science. daughter, grace, who is a genius, if i say so myself, asked me about this recently. she said mom, is president obama really trying to bring in terrorists into the united states? [applause] and i told her yes, sadly, that is exactly what he is doing. without missing a beat, she said, man, use your brain, do, that is totally stupid. it is not only stupid, it is dangerous also. if president obama and attorney general holder do not get it, it is time for congress to act. we need all of you here today to help us in this effort. please go to my new website, keepamericasafe.com. we have a new petition of that tells president obama that terrorists belong at guantanamo, not an america's heartland. Ñi[applause] while we are sending messages to president obama today, here is one more. stop apologizing for this great nation and start defending us. çó[applause] keeping these terrorists and detained is important and necessary, but not enough for us to win thisçó war. we also have to be ableÑi to ge

this gentleman should be sent to guantanamo bay. they have to be understood.the combatants. that is part of the domestic rule of engagement that we need to understand how do we take our the ecosystem and apply it to this new 21st century battlefield? i want to talk to you about something else. there is a political battle that is going on as well. the set piece is conservative versus progressive liberals. there is also an underlying aspect to that. it is called a car. Ñi-- acorn. it is the new transfer party. all of these people who are seeking to undermine the political process that we have here -- we saw what happens when the party went to be brought up. the electro basis of the night state of america is under attack. it is part of our liberty. how are we going to do with it. how are we going to do with the back there right now you have this thing called universal voter registration that is floating around? how will you do with the fact that the senses was taking out of the commerce department and brought into the control of the white house chief of staff rah

and then ultimately i can see it ending up at a military tribunal in guantanamo bay.l: if you paint the scenario, congressman, let's say a civilian trial takes place... take the assumption here that your conclusion is not the way it will play out. where in the country would it happen if new york said don't have it here? >> i don't know. i don't know what area of the country would want it and when they decided on new york they didn't speak to anyone in the city at all and, none of the democratic elect owed officials from new york spoke out against it and it wasn't until a police commissioner came out and did his job, really did a great job in showing what the course would be that the administration backed down. and, they cannot -- costs would be that the administration backed down and, i don't know of any area that would take it. that is the position they boxed themselves into. bill: wondering, and i understand your premise here, about going back to gitmo. six months from now, where are we on the issue, every decision, will we backtrack on it and no detainee leaves git

in the past, he may have gone to guantanamo. president obama has closed all of the cia black presence abroad, there are not all of option where we can take them. that could be one reason when you ask, when you read the reports, it is the pakistanis who are in control over baradar, not the u.s.. it may be because u.s. intelligence, at this point, does not know what to do with him. host: we are talking about the capture of the taliban number two. first phone call from new orleans. caller: there is a difference between a conspiracy theory and a conspiracy fact. a theory is only a theory until facts, not to support the conspiracy. that is what we have here. what i am about to bring up is fact. what are we doing fighting that, then? who attacked us? it was certainly not the taliban. -- what are we doing fighting the taliban? they came out after 9/11 and said, you supplied the evidence that usama bin laden was behind the attacks, and we will turn him over. to this day, the fbi does not have usama bin laden on their list of most wanted

gwen: that's a question about guantanamo and what is happening at many levels. >> i'm not sure it provides an answer. what they say that in this case, look, we can use the civilian justice system. we can still get him to talk. now, what the republicans are saying, yeah, but he was silent for a month. the fact is the obama administration is willing to put some people on trial before military commissions. for example, the defendants who were accused of attacking the u.s.s. cole yemen. they will be in sin trials. gwen: in new york. >> no easy answer to this. gwen: we'll be watching all of it. thank you all very much. we thank you as well. we have to go now and dig ourselves out of a washington snowstorm, but you keep up with daily developments every night at the pbs news hour. we'll see you next week on "washington week with gwen ifill." good night. >> download our weekly podcast and take us with you. it's the "washington week with gwen ifill" podcast at washingtonweek.org. >> "washington week with gwen ifill" was produced by weta which is solely responsible for ifill" was produced by weta wh

he started to justifyin closing guantÁnamo.erstand that come in, see, that is another aspect of the rules of engagement that we must have -- and we must understand that, see, that is another aspect of the rules of engagement that we must have. he is all lawyered up and ready to go through the system. those gentlemen should be sent to guantanamo bay, and they have to be understood -- it has to be understood that they are illegal and in the combatants, and that is part of the domestic woe of engagement -- and they are illegal and enemy combatants -- illegal enemy combatants, and that is part of the domestic rules of engagement. conservative versus progressive, liberal, socialists, whatever you want to call them, but there is also an undermining aspect to that. there are also irregulars on this political battlefield, and that is called acorn. it is called the new black panther party. all of these people who are under -- seeking to undermine this political process, this a lecter process, that we have here, and we saw what happened

guantanamo is the perfect plates for them to remain, do not close guantanamo, keep them there, try themh justice there as well. mr. speaker, they're not attacking us because of guantanamo bay. they're attacking us because of the statue of liberty. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. are there further requests for one minutes? hearing none, the chair lays before the house the following personal requests. the clerk: leaves of absence requested for mr. davis of illinois for today, mr. ehlers of michigan for today, mr. ellison of minnesota for today. mr. tiahrt of kansas for today, mr. young of florida for today. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the requests are granted. for what purpose does the gentleman from indiana rise? mr. burton: i ask unanimous consent that today following legislative business and any special orders heretofore entered into, the following members may be permitted to address the house, revise and extend their remarks and include therein extraneous material. mr. poe of february 3, 4, and 9 for five minutes each, mr. jones february 3, 4

taxpayer has already spent on guantanamo bay. this is not rocket science.dent obama really trying to bring terrorists into the united states? [laughter] [applause] i told her," yes, sadly, that is exactly what he is doing." she cut right to the core of the issue and she said,"man, use your brain dude. that is totally stupid." [laughter] [applause] it is not only stupid, it is dangerous also. if president obama and attorney- general holder do not get it back to this time for congress to act. we need all of you here today to help us in this effort. please go to my website, keep america safe.com. we have a petition of the that tells president obama that terrorists belong at guantanamo, not in the american heartland. [applause] while we are sending messages to president barack obama today, here's one more -- stop apologizing for this great nation and start defending us. [applause] and keeping these terrorists and detained is important. it is necessary but not enough for us to win this war it would also have to be able to get good intelligence. there is no quest

>> first of all, we want guantanamo bay closed and we have always said that. the decisions on that will have to be made by the president about what he does with those people who are there from yemen. it is for him to make the decisions. the third thing, failure in certain deradicalization programs should not allow us to abandon the necessity of working to try to tackle this extreme is some problem by persuasion and by showing that the violent extremism which people are supporting is essentially based on a perverted view of what is a peaceful religion, islam. we've got to continue to expose that and continue to use the work which is done by moderates and sensible reformers in the islamic world to counteract these extreme views which have been so poisonous in recent years. >> now we will move to somewhere else in the islamic world, iran. >> we've discussed iran in this forum before on several occasions, and i was glad to start with a very simple question about the prospects for tougher un and eu sanctions. but as we sat down, reuters was announcing that the u.s.

been while in guantanamo? and in each of those case we said before the states make up their mind as to whether they are going to accept these individuals or not, share these individuals with the policymakers and the decisionmakers in that state. thank you. the chair: the gentleman from texas. mr. reyes: madam chair, it's probably a good point that the ranking member makes that there should be a debate on guantanamo. unfortunately this is not the right bill to have that debate on. and i yield two minutes to the chairman of the select panel of intelligence and oversight and a member of the house intelligence committee, a valued member, mr. holt from new jersey. mr. holt: madam chair -- the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. holt: i want to thank the chairman of the select committee for bringing this bill to the floor. on balance we need it and i support it. and i'm pleased that the bill includes language that i developed that mandates video recording of detainee interrogations by the central intelligence ag

all these cases ]<' pending before military commission at guantanamo bay before the obama administrationspended the trials and dismiss charges. that was a major mistake in the war on terror. these al qaeda terrorists are not common criminals. their attacks resulted in the biggest loss of american life from an act of war on our homeland since the civil war. never before have we allowed non-citizens enemy combatants captured on the battlefield access to our civilian courts, riding them witó the same constitutional rights as american citizens. terry should not receive more rights than a nazi war criminal. it is not the time to go back to the pre 9/11 mentality of fighting crime instead of fighting the war. a civilian trial is unnecessarily dangerous and creates more problems than it solves. the former attorney general was the presiding judge in the 1995 trial involving the first attempt to blow up the world trade center, and has warned that using civilian courts in terror trials, the same concerns were recently echoed by the bipartisan chairman of the 9/11 commission. in the 1995 trial, the

what is the vision about where you do with guantanamo? why should it be shot?what would you do with the people there if they were not able to be returned to their home country? how much risk are you prepared to take some dig them back to their home country? if you move them to the u.s. where do you put them? what does that mean for the local community? we saw an instance where initially there was a decision to send khalid sheikh mohammed to new york to be tried and all of a sudden the authorities in new york said no, no, we were not consulted. this is going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars. what this tells me is we need to have a serious discussion and debate before some of these decisions are made. and the second thing it tells me as congress needs to do some work laying out the legal framework for how to deal with terrorism in the 21st century. some of that work has been done in the legislation passed. but flexible we still don't have a set of procedures for dealing with the detainees who want to challenge their detention. the supreme court held a coup

we have a president who campaigned on the idea guantanamo had to close, who disappointed many of theey hoped, but did not go after the court. and that is what happened in the warren court. many of their criminal procedure decisions were popular with the country as a whole. you have to have a lawyer? that was not unpopular. is not until president nixon gets up in 1968 and runs against the warren court and criminal forces that he can mobilize the backlash and maybe justice at kennedy is safe as long as obama >> he has to wait a bit. whether or not his book will be ;museum kiosk. because no book about court is sold in that kiosk and less the nine justices signed up on it. and currently, the new book about cilia -- scalia, an excellent biography, is still not available in the supreme court kiosk because justice scalia has not yet signed off on it. [laughter] so there is a way by which the justices -- just as kennedy perhaps is going to veto barry's book going in there, but let's hope that it does not -- >> i am sympathetic to this point about the terrorism case. you can slice and dice th

también negó que en la isla se tortura dónde según él sí ocurre en la cárcel de guantánamo.l mundo, este es mi dolor pienso que mi hijo perdió la vida es un asesinato premeditado ha sido torturado en todo el tiempo que estado en la prisión. >> coincide con la visita de ty lo ocurrido demuestra el interés de cuba para abrirse a los cambios, no tomarán ninguna iniciativa de cambioticierqueiv mínimamente el control del gobierno. >> desde la isla de oposición ya está denunciando una ola e incluso la detención de distantes buscando evitar que asistan al funeral de orlando zapata. en ivisioáánomiami, typi o univisiounivisionáánotici >> una ballenaáánoero un mioáán entrenadora en el parqueáánoti temático de oro lanuorlando, fl enrique t. nos dice qivisioááno tragedía se desarrolló ante los ojos de un grupo de visitantes al parque de visitantes. >> si fue por agosto mentoagost es una causa que se ha dado a conocer, una inmensa ballena orca atrapóionh@áánoticiero uni orlando frente a decenas de visitantes la mujer perdió laun pudieron revivirla. >> (hablando en inglés) >intérprete: e

in the past, he may have gone to guantanamo.obama administration does not want to do that. since we have closed -- president obama has closed all of the cia black presence abroad, there are not all of option where we can take them. that could be one reason when you ask, when you read the reports, it is the pakistanis who are in control over baradar, not the u.s.. it may be because u.s. intelligence, at this point, does not know what to do with him. host: we are talking about the capture of the taliban number two. first phone call from new orleans. caller: there is a difference between a conspiracy theory and a conspiracy fact. a theory is only a theory until facts, not to support the conspiracy. that is what we have here. what i am about to bring up is fact. what are we doing fighting that, then? who attacked us? it was certainly not the taliban. -- what are we doing fighting the taliban? they came out after 9/11 and said, you supplied the evidence that usama bin laden was behind the attacks, and we will turn him over. to this d

there wasn't guantanamo.all of the things which are sometimes cited as being spurs to recruitment or inflaming people against us, those things didn't exist prior to 9/11 with the embassy bombings in east africa. they didn't exist prior to the u.s. siskel. in the 1990's, we were basically minding our own business. you know, and bin laden's original grievance is we went to saudi arabia to help defend kuwait against invasion by saddam hussein. for those who believe that we somehow cause these things we would have to pull out of the entire world and even then if you look at the plot against the cartoonists in denmark we have to start to sense your work television, since your our books and newspapers. we will never be able to appease enough to satisfy the people who want to strike us. so, i have to say the experience we have seen in either having ourselves or allies strike against safe havens has been that has produced very positive results, and frankly again if i go back to even some of the ideologues who have no

i believe at the end of the day khalid sheik mohammed will get a trial but it will be at guantanamo bay>> it leeks like you're going to be right because we discovered in new york they don't want it. no other town outside this crazy mayor we had on -- was it newburgh, new york? he wanted it there. >> right. >> neil: he was a lovely man but i'm thinking you're nuts if you are think your voters will be keen on this but they discovered, no, not in our yard. at what point and how did they say all right, it's back to gitmo? >> you know, i've been waiting, sort of trying to get my postings out on line because i've been thinking it's going to happen any minute now. remember, president obama last fall put an arms length distance between the attorney generals's announcement saying it was the attorney generals decision and that gives him the ability to say we're going to move forward with a military commission. what's interesting, you might not have seen, congressman lamar alexander noted in the budget monday there's $200 million allocated for a salt civilian tl for ksm and his cohorts in the fema

the cubans have allowed the americans to treat patients at guantanamo bay. >> they are still stuck in relations other than that? >> yes. the language has lessons. on key issues like ending the 50 year-old trade embargo, america and sensed that there must be reforms in cuba. cubans say the system here is >> have there been any reforms? >> there were expectations that there would be change. fidel castro did certain things. the economy is going backwards. there is a growing frustration that there is a slow pace of change. >> how ma people own computers here? what still a small number. they are not allowed to have an internet connection at home. because of the trade embargo, it is making that difficult. it is a legal for cubans to have internet at home. >> anymore change down the road? what people are wondering what will happen next. the economy has been going backward. they were hit by hurricanes. castro is trying to make the state-run economy more efficient. it is not working at the moment. >> thanks. but this is a first of our many broadcasts from cuba this week. it is important for th

said he wanted to move the day that guantanamo should be closed. so i emphasized all of the things that we were doing. now, sitting in the front row of the auditorium at yale was the dean of the yale law school. and harold, who really is a very good friend of mine, as i said, been very supportive of me, asked the first question, just as i get to do today. and harold then made a very trenchant dissection of all of the remarks that i had just made. not directed at me personally, but really harold has been a persistent critic of past administration. and essentially said, yes, you know, john, i know you're trying, but, you know, not good enough. guantanamo is not closed. you really need to become party to the international criminal court. you need to work harder to comply with the rulings of the icj. you should not have pulled out of the optional protocol that allows the cases actually to be litigated before the icj. i have got concerns about military commissions. i have got concerns about guantanamo. you shouldn't just be trying on the law of the sea

>> the bush administration looked at the possibility of closing guantanamo. he is very hard.nited states and the west. some of them perhaps can be sent to home countries that you can be confident will make sure that they're incapacitated. sometimes, however, they raise legal objections to going back and you can't send them back. our position was, and i believe it to be true, you don't want to bring them into the united states. once you bring them into the united states' soil, they will have a series of rights, or a set of rights, under the immigration laws, that could well put you in a very, very difficult position, of being ordered to release somebody and not being able to deport them, and i think the last thing we want to do is i am por terrorists into the u.s. again, there's a solution for this. congress could step up to the plate, and could say, here are the rules about what we're going to do with these detainees, and we could have a really carefully thoughtout plan and strategy for how to deal with them. i haven't seen that yet, so under the circumstance, i think it's pr

, the prisoners at guantanamo and i was wondering if any progress has been made on that at all. similarly the issue that caused a lot of debate after the christmas bombing was the issue of the miranda warnings and who should give them and when they should be given, and i would like to hear from you and discuss with you during the question period who should be making the decision since obviously there was much more involved than just the individual being apprehended on the ground and since the intelligence community is so far reaching it appears the attorney general is making the decision that in making that does he discuss that with the director of national intelligence? does he discuss the decision with you, with the cia? does he discuss it with any of the other counterterrorism agencies and departments we have or does he make it on his own without realizing the full consequences of what could happen? in any event these are issues i would like to discuss with you and hear your thoughts on and i sure as the year goes on and we have regular meetings a lot of these will be discuss

to the british government in their attempts to hang onto documents pertaining to a terrorist and guantanamo bay. they say that they knew he was being tortured while he was held in a secret prison for seven years. china says that members of creatine tow are on trial for robbery and stealing secrets, including three chinese nationals and an australian citizen. this arrest has caused political friction between china and australia. the harlem globetrotters have been showing off their usual combination of athleticism and comedy, but this time it is on ice. they have played a game on the central path from the proper competitive team, over the years developing the routine, more entertainment than sports, some would say. former nba members have been part of their repertoire. back to you, george. >> you are watching "gmt." let's return to our main story this hour. one month after the earthquake in haiti, the government believes that two under and 50,000 people have died in the disaster. i am joined from rome. what is your assessment, now, of the challenge facing the humanitarian aid agencies? >> the

the only torture here it takes place at guantanamo bay. but the death of this dissidents in jail has focused world attention on the plight of political prisoners in cuba. they say there are about 200 official prisoners. that is about a third less from when raul castro came to power. >> michael, just briefly, are you able to tell us anymore about other dissidents who have been arrested to prevent them attending the funeral? >> this is what we are being told by other dissident groups and by the cuban commission for human rights. zapata was from a province of the other end of the islands, and what we are hearing reports of is that these were in effect temporary detention. the boat took up their -- people were taken up to stop attending. we do not believe anyone is charged in this period was the funeral is over, there will probably be let go again. >> thank you very much. were the main news. germany's evangelical church representing 25 million protestants has resigned because she was caught drunk driving. from berlin, we have this. >> the morn

in fact, 44% of americans believe that al qaeda should be tried in guantanamo guantanamo n astounding number considering all the controversy. why did it take months for the white house to figure this deal out? excellent question. second, health care. americans simply don't understand the bill. more than 2,000 pages. the president doesn't understand it either because he couldn't explain it in 29 speeches. so, you would think he would simplify matters if he wants republican support, that he would put in legislation to stop frivolous lawsuits against medical people and to allow insurance companies to compete nationwide. why not do that? that's what the republicans want and it seems to make sense. there is no downside to tort reform. and increase insurance competition. so the folks are skeptical. and third some right wingers condemn president obama for the trillion-dollar stimulus package but talking points thinks that's unfair. there is no question the economy could have collapsed in 2009. it was very possible that the financial system would simply melt down. so the feds had to pour mone

the only torture takes place at guantanamo bay. but the death of this dissident and jail has really focused world attention for the moment on the plight of political prisoners in cuba. they say there are about 200 here. the human rights commission puts it at that number, about one- third less when raul castro came to power. the cubans and says the are no political prisoners, the call them mercenaries in the pay of the united states. >> any more about the reports 30 other dissidents have been arrested for attending the funeral? >> this is what we're being told by the dissident groups and by the cuban commission for human rights. the potto was from a province -- orlando zapata was from a province on the other end of the island. what we are hearing isthese were temporary detentions. people were held or forced to stay at home to stop them from attending. we did not believe anyone has been arrested or charged. once the funeral is over, they will probably be let go. >>> police and dubai have identified 15 more suspects in the execution o

president obama made the pledge to close began -- guam guantanamo bay. the issue that came forward just now in the last few weeks is the cost of this trial. and are we as americans willing to sacrifice our resources to have these trials in the united states. in 2009 there was $2 million allocated for these trials. given what will happen in new york, it may be difficult to find a location in the united states to have these trials. but more importantly, $200 million of these trials that could have taken place at guantanamo bay. come at a cost. they are significant costs to state and local programs. those costs and expenses and opportunities are wasted because we want to have these trials domestically. i would rather see that money spent on state and federal homeland security programs. host: our caller on the republican line. caller: did you say anything about closing the borders of mexico and canada? guest: mission two in the report talks about security and managing the borders. guest: sure, security is managing but not closing the borders. it speaks of fr

he started justifying the closing of guantanamo bay by saying that if we close guantanamo bay we takeay the number one terrorist recruiting tool. [laughter] the guys that were shooting at me in iraq or afghanistan could care less about what to do with guantanamo bay. and we must understand that is the that's another aspect of the rules of engagement we need to have in this country think about the fact that right now, with the somali pirates beware -- where is the? want all lawyers up waiting to be tried in and go through our system. think about the young man who just pled not guilty to the christmas terrorist attempt. those gentleman should be sent to guantanamo bay. [applause] and they have to be understood, it has to be understood that they are illegal and in the combatants and that's part of the domestic rule of engagement that we need to understand here and as a juror talked about, had to take illegal system and applied to this new 20% to battlefield. but i want to talk about something else that's important as we head to the 2010 midterm election. there's a political battle going

instead of recognizing that terrorists targeted america long before guantanamo bay held enemy combatants, he attempted to rewrite history to the benefit of our enemies and the detriment of our own people. put bluntly, the president believes that american policy was a root cause of aqap's attack on the homeland. i believe differently. i believe that america is a force for peace in the world and not a cause for strife. i believe we are the target of militant radicals and not its source. i believe we have a responsibility to defeat our enemies wherever they are not treated and released them as if they were run-of-the-mill domestic criminals. treating ksm and the co- conspirators of the 9/11 attack and prosecuting them in federal court in downtown new york reveals how misguided moralism endangers american lives and unnecessarily wastes hundreds of millions of dollars. we have a military system in place that we worked hard on in the last reauthorization in the court room in a gitmo to handle these cases. it is time for the president to reverse his decision on trials in federal courts. whether