bay. >> they're not new charges, they're old charges refiled, and that means guantanamo bay remainsobama originally wanted. >> that's right. one of his election pledges in 2008, president obama wanted to close guantanamo bay within one year. a lot of people saw that as very optimistic at the time and ultimately that plan didn't happen. and guantanamo bay remains open with approximate 170 detainees and there's no sign had a it will be closed any time soon. essentially a lot of the detainees there are in legal limbo for different reasons. some of the detainees, the u.s. says are too dangerous to release but at the same time doesn't have enough evidence admissible in court they can use in court to actually prosecute those detainees. and other detainees who are to be released don't have anywhere to go. the united states has fears that releasing some of these detainees or returning them to their country of origin, they might be tortured. it's a very complicated situation at guantanamo bay and the fact that khalid shaikh mohammed and these four detainees will be tried in a military court

guantanamo bay remains open with approximately no sign it will be closed anytime soon. essentially, a lot of the detainees are in legal limbo for different reasons. some of them, the u.s. deems too dangerous to release but does not have enough evidence admissible in court to actually prosecute those detainees. other detainees have been deemed safe to release but do not have anywhere to go. there are fears that returning them to their country of origin, they might be tortured. a very complicated situation. the fact that and they will be tried in military court, it only confirms the idea that guantanamo bay is here to stay, at least in the short term. >> still to come, stepping into the future -- talking newspapers, advertisements, and museum exhibits. to many unsold properties are causing house prices in the united states to fall to their lowest level in 10 years. >> american homes being sold off on the cheap because of strain homeowners. u.s. house prices have now dropped by 33% since the housing peaked in 2006. this auctioneer's says foreclosures and bankruptcy are now

morricone as was arrested on the streets and sent to guantanamo for torture after five years america released him without charge to this day the u.s. has given no explanation all said story couldn't as is suing george bush's lawyer alberto gonzalez for ruling tool sure is legal interrogators from the land of the free are free to cause quote simulated drowning and rape point instrumentality impairment of bodily function organ failure and even death i was one of those who survived. on myself. because i will not sign papers. i was forced to agree that i'm a member of either and i said i am not the us refused to even reveal they were holding current as his mother also these lawyers to find her son it took several years there was no chance to get in quantity quantity it's a shame for the united states what happened. concerned national law and it's simply impossible twenty first century. put someone in the extra. room. and saying you have no right moves to end the practices they are imposing a set of standards on our intelligence communities in terms of interrogating prisoners that our peo

put under severe weather conditions and then he was taken to guantanamo bay i did was cleared from guantanamo from guantanamo very early on but he wasn't allowed to leave till january two thousand and ten when they found him a host country to welcome him which was sort of a cure but unfortunately even in sort of a cure i did was arrested and spent six months perhaps a little charge and it's actually from slovakia he returned to egypt. intending to return to a free job but the terms of now and then with being thrown into jail which is interesting because why has he been regarded as a threat especially when he's already been acquitted by the u.s. . exactly this is this is a question that we also haven't found an answer for by. i don't while i there wasn't one tunnel more into thousand and one i did was charge in egypt in a case known as case of this basically a group that was charged with wanting to topple the mubarak regime so basically idle got an essential sentence for three years which is by a military court three years by a military court standard is considered to be very law which explain

but it's still happening guantanamo bay is still open now president obama has signed. an executive order to have a formal policy for indefinite detention cell let's say that if you make it to the white house what do you do with one hundred people that are still locked up at guantanamo bay congress this time here arms they say you can't transfer them to u.s. soil going tobe a what we need to close when it comes to guantanamo bay is that torture would be occurring that endless detainment would be occurring without being charge that's what needs to be stopped when it comes to guantanamo bay maybe we keep going tom obey open from the standpoint of actually imprisoning of those that are convicted if you will but what is wrong with the prisons that we have here on american soil well we have well so the prisons of america i'm just i'm just pointing out what i think our realities to the notion of having a military tribunal actually do the. only fair conduct the hearings have not been tested oh yeah loudly as our civilian court which i they've been very well to say because we u

soil guantanamo bay what we need to close when it comes to guantanamo bay is the torture would be occurring that endless detainment would be occurring without being charged that's what needs to be stopped when it comes to guantanamo bay maybe we keep going tom obey open from the standpoint of actually imprisoning of those that are convicted if you will what is wrong with the prisons that we have here on american soil well we have well so the prisons of america i'm just i'm just pointing out what i think are realities to the notion of having a military tribunal actually do the. conduct the hearings have not been tested then you know how well these are civilian courts which are they've been very well to some because we used them for all you're a terry have been much higher when it comes to our federal courts here on american soil many legal experts will tell you that the military commissions are not the way to go well the military commissions are all right for our own military so these are not u.s. citizens they're not u.s. citizens so to have a military tribunal oversee oversee a trial not e

take unknown drugs which is a common theme that we hear from many other guantanamo prisoners in terms of whether the administration should apologize i think you know i'm just going off of what what other attorneys have said apologizing would perhaps be accepting. some sort of. being complicit more or less that it would be acknowledging that in fact this detainees were other detainees have in fact been torture and that's the idea please something that we know that this administration has not has refused to do i would never in my years of covering politics that would never wait for any administration kid to apologize unless it was essentially done so with the barrel of a gun pointed at it but i. don't think people understand that when you have incidents like this when you have scandals like guantanamo bay like i'll go grey of these kinds of images these kinds of stories whether they're covered by the mainstream press here in the u.s. or not they were vertebrate across the world i mean how many jihadi is do you think that the case of this prisoner creative in theory spawned. sure i think

but guantanamo bay, i think, surely president oba campaigned that he would... what he would do...e found it difficult and they changed what was going to happen. >> i think they also found it isn't what they thoughtt was. >> rose: but president bh, i think,asically was not... was epared to do something about guantanamo bay but he didn't know where to do it! >>e's the one tt requid that the department of defense detain these people. >> rose: right. >> we then looked at all over the world for the best place to do it, guantanamo bay had been used by previous presidents of both parties to detain people. >> rose: your successor was robert gates, who's retiring. >> uh-huh. >> rose: he's been prescribed as... described as most the effective secretary of defense in history. >> i think he's done a good job. >> rose: would you rank him that high? >> oh, goodness. i don't know. i think you need to let time walk over these things but i personally think he's done a good job. he's a fine man. >> rose: thank you. >> uh-huh. >> rose: donald rumsfeld's book is called "known and

balkans ask mark us which draws parallels between the hague tribunal and guantanamo bay and where there is a danger of the role of winning out over ramadan. but the tribunal doesn't need you to. actually engage with his own defense which of you need a tribunal needs to be you seem to be sitting there for symbolic reasons he's sitting there the overview of the world is focused on him all the accusations are the wall of noise is against it because this tribunal you should remember is not a court it is a tribunals with all the dubious i talk quasi legal procedures that involve the one time obey or bureau where people are held for years without trial waiting for trial when they're when they're going is known in advance in fact is even worse than the guantanamo bay of europe because at least they're in the guantanamo bay the judges know what the rules are at the hague tribunal this kind of court the rules are worked out as they go along and always at the expense of the serbs. but as for the killing of civilians this is going on part of as we reported later this hour told the soldiers have cl

one of former guantanamo bay detainees tells us how he suffered at the hands of u.s. authorities and how he continues to struggle for justice. and are to travel to the fukushima exclusion zone to find out the true radiation levels at the leaking reactor. but for a syrian forces have opened fire at funerals for the victims of a brutal crackdown on anti regime protesters near the capital damascus at least two people died more than twenty people are thought to have been killed across syria since friday it's the latest wave of protests against president bashar al assad's rule came despite a speech monday in which he promised liberal reforms in return for an end to the violence a three month long crackdown has reportedly left some fourteen hundred people dead the former british ambassador to syria basil eastwood says people are divided over president assad amid strong desire for a political process. there were great hopes that he would lead to a better future he still retains some of that popularity particularly with the urban populations in damascus and aleppo the second

bay of europe because at least they're in the guantanamo bay the judges know what the rules are at the hague tribunal this kind of court the rules are worked out as they go along and always at the expense of the . but alice worth the killing of civilians is going on punished as we reported later this hour we're always soldiers have been we've heard over the killing of innocent afghans including children during a lack of evidence to support a war crimes case. and lot of course back to earth moscow mars mission turns a year old we chat on the progress of the first tense of interplanetary test. it's been an eventful week and libya was nato intensify its controversial bombing campaign and the coalition voting to stand its intervention mandate in the north african country the u.n. accuses colonel gadhafi of war crimes but admits the gravels are guilty of similar abuses meanwhile britain and france have the poit low flying combat helicopters to the country the move has brought operations closer to the ground prompting concerns over an evidence of a land based offensive and as russia's foreig

barack obama was elected on the promise to short guantanamo but he's even appealed u.s. court rulings which give detainees some royds two years old prison still open for business but all. guilty of. crimes against humanity sociopath. and so's europe. for participating exactly executives from bush down no fear going abroad to foreigners food lawsuits over torture when the world looms what's america's doing since bush is advisor we will all be ashamed don't you bushell r.t. braman. you would r.t. as we run down the top stories of the week here and in the news was that of the far right dutch politician heard of hilda's being cleared of charges of inciting hatred and discrimination went on trial for publicly comparing islam to nazis and and for calling for a ban on the qur'an the court ruled that his remarks were offensive but fell within the limits of a judgment political debate the case came of it increasing and integration sentiment in europe friday e.u. leaders many reasonable times and. european parliament member philip. with the multiculturalist politics fading it may

when we spoke actually a couple of months ago when the guantanamo detainee files were released i noted that there was this stunning hypocrisy within this administration and it also was was true for the bush administration and that is vilifying other countries other governments for human rights abuses in many instances the same types of human rights abuses that. that that we in the united states are guilty of so to try and make sense of why lie this administration frankly why people in general are not paying closer attention to this whole idea of ministration is not speaking out more forcefully and in fact why congress isn't either is. it really comes down to just wanting to make this go away wanting to sweep it under the rug but as you know here what's really important is that this isn't going away this you know when you have lawsuits when you have detainees coming forward to describe what they endured that that ensures that it will remain front and center and this is just a perfect example but this administration has actually gone out of its way to the war any effort to hold anyone ac

they need to be tried at guantanamo. isn't that setting kind of an odd precedent here because these people are not people arrested overseas. they were people who were arrested in your state. >> well, you know, they're enemy combatants. the things they're accuse of doing, their finger prints were found on i.e.d.s in iraq. they got into this country as a mistake. these are enemy combatants. let's get the terminology right. these are not american citizens. they're enemy combatants. attorney general said the other night our biggest weapon in the war on terror was the u.s. civilian court system. i don't know what planet he's living on. if osama bin laden were alive today i think he would say our biggest weapon are u.s. navy seals. look, foreigners are not entitled to be tried in the u.s. court system particularly if they are enemy combatants. that's what these are. enemy combatants. the attorney general has the choice. he just made the wrong choice. they ought to be tried in military commissions. this is a no-brainer. these f

bay of europe because at least there in the guantanamo bay the judges know what the rules are at the hague tribunal is kangaroo court the rules are worked up as they go along and always at the expense of the serbs. well blondes the deputy editor of the online magazine spike says what's going on in the hague now is a show trial with the outcome already set in stone but i don't think there's anything. there about this trial at all about the whole process. or what's what's happening in. the code the outcome is going to be in but it's been set already it's a bit of a show trial i think. as a result of yeah i think it's very much about bolstering the west's position and making the west look like it's the free defender of justice and the largest has already been such a bad guy in this i'm not. allowed to choose our wonderful human being but there were crimes on all sides in that war and to pick out one side was worse than the other is a bit peculiar of the situation was watching murky there were opportunists nationalists politicians on all sides and some fairly brutal people behind them as

barack obama was elected on the promise to show it to guantanamo but he's even appealed u.s. court rulings which give detainees some royds two years on the prison still open for business lot all washington street guilty of. crimes against humanity sociopath. europe for participating these actions executives from bush down no fear going abroad to foreigners fold law suits over to. win the world lose will to america's doing said bush's advisor we will all be ashamed the new bush will r.t. braman. earlier this week the far right dutch politicians politician that hit the villagers was cleared of charges of inciting hatred and discrimination he went on trial for publicly comparing islam to naziism and calling for a ban of the qur'an because his remarks were offensive within the limits of the political debate the case came amid increasing anti immigration sentiment in europe on friday e.u. leaders agreed to tighten border control their man will be. replaced says with multiculturalist politics failing it may be time for more radical solutions. we've always been told that multicultur

coming up later in the program return of the guantanamo scandal. i was forced to agree. five years of torture all for a phony confession one taney tells us his story and paints a bleak picture of the struggle to bring those he accuses of abuse to justice but also still to come this hour to investigate the real radiation situation in japan's fukushima nuclear plant as the international community tightens up atomic security levels. and stories still to come but first there's been a c. eries of international reports that hugo chavez the staunchly anti american president of venezuela is in a critical condition after undergoing surgery in cuba speculation has been stoked by conflicting statements from the government about his health something jumped on by the world's media when they are joined by agents he's an author and researcher in one of ours there in argentina to tell us what he thinks behind the hype thanks very much indeed for joining us here on r.t. know his condition is causing concern in venezuela and throughout latin america but as i just said the government has c

one of former guantanamo bay detainees tells r t how he suffered at the hands of u.s. authorities and how he continues to struggle for justice. and we take you to the fukushima exclusion zone to find out the true radiation levels of the leaking reactors. but first greece is expected to get another cash injection from the european union on condition it imposes severe financial measures totaling some seventy eight billion euros the greek parliament is expected to vote tuesday proposals caused an eruption of anger in the capital with protesters claiming the move was aimed at rescuing the ailing euro skeptics in brussels even staged a symbolic funeral for the currency according to one lecturer at the university of the aegean the only way out of the mess is vice splitting from the e.u. . the problem is we cannot do it we are giving twelve billion lifeline. the biggest part of which is going to be used to repay debt to repay previous dates this is totally absurd it is for the benefit of greek people to have an immediate exit from the euro from the euro zone the euro is a mon

as was a really stood on the streets and sent to guantanamo for. five years america released him without charge. the u.s. has given no explanation. could george bush's law alberto gonzalez for his legal interrogators from the free free simulated drowning rate instrumentality impairment of bodily function organ failure and even if i was one of those. kind of pressure on myself. because i will not sign. that i was forced to agree. member of. the us refused to even reveal we will hold in common as he's muggles he's loyal to find her son. years there was no chance to get in contact with mr krone's it's really a shame for the united states what happened. is. concerned national war and it's simply impossible twenty first century sure put someone in the next. room. saying you have no right to push for moves to end the practices they are imposing a set of standards on our intelligence communities in terms of interrogating prisoners that our people think will be an effective end of the classified memo gonzales did warn us gods it was legally safer to perfor

the president is deeply committed. >> guantanamo is open is it not. >> you have asked what the failures, we have not persuaded the congress to give us the tools we ne to make it happen. not for a lack of conviction byhe psident. >> rose: it's congress's problem that you have not closed guantanamo. >> i'm taking responsibility for this. we have not persuaded congress that it's in the interest of the country to allow us to do the things that we need to do. >> rose: give me another example of whe there migh have been a bush policy that you didn't discard. >> i think will are a number of things the president-- . >> rose: that on coming to power it might not be as bad as anticipated. >> i think one of the earliest examples is whenwe had to deal with the transition in iraq. that the presint even thousand he had set out a specific timetable during the campaign, he came in and said i'm going to listen my commander. i will understand better what is going on on the ground. he kept hisommitment to meet the 20 deadline for withdrawing. but he also adjusted the way we did it because he heard from ou

and when a document from guantanamo bay was leaked, wikileaks published it. >> the defense of freedoms a value is on the front of guantanamo bay. >> reporter: wikileaks soon found itself in the cross hairs of the u.s. army. this report leaked to wikileaks identified it as a threat and revealed ways to shut it down. assange, though, remained defiant. >> when we're attacked that is usually the worst move that someone can do. the information is not going to disappear any time soon. >> reporter: growing pressure drove wikileaks under ground. they moved to a james bond bullet prop bunker in sweden. assange went to iceland. by 2009, iceland was a country on its knees. a banks crisis brought it to the brink of bankruptcy, banks went under. enter wikileaks. in july 2009, they posted a book from one of the largest failed banks, releases risky loans. the bank launched a counterattack. >> we got letters from the bank saying they could try to attack us and put news prison for a year. unless we removed it. and of course we said, we're not going to remove it. >> reporter: the leak became the story

bay of europe because at least there in the guantanamo bay the judges know what the rules are at the hague tribunal this kind group called the rules are worked out as they go along and always at the expense of the serbs. and. deputy head of sales the online magazine spiked so it's going on in behaving now it's a show trial with the outcome already set and standing but i don't think there's anything. fair about this trial it's all about the whole process. or what's what's happening it is that the kind of the outcome is kind of been. set already it's a bit of a show trial i think. as a result i think it's very much about bolstering the west's position and making the west look like it's a free defender of justice and the largest has already been certified as the bad guy in this i'm not for a moment thinking that she's our wonderful human being but the crimes on all sides are not war and to pick out one side has been worse than the other is a bit peculiar of the situation was much murkier there were opportunists nationalists politicians on all sides and some fairly brutal people behind t

barack obama was elected on the promise to shorts guantanamo but he's even appealed u.s. court rulings which give detainees some royds two years on the prison still open for business but all washington street guilty of. crimes against humanity sociopathic street slows your plea for participating and supporting exactly executives from bush down no fear going abroad of foreigners food lawsuits over torture when the world looms will to america's doing said bush's advisor we would all be ashamed don't you bushell r.t. braman. that russian president is delivering on his promise to centralize power in the country giving the regions a greater say in politics dmitri medvedev wants to appoint the current governor petersburg as the new head of the upper house of the russian parliament and he's been out of an hour joins us live for more details on this let's cross over to him now. and peter hi hi what exactly does this mean for russia. well really this is the upper house of russia's government going through a major base of housekeeping before they take this. some agree on july fifte

you stated the president wants to close guantanamo bay.been a decision about what will happen with the detainee's currently held there? >> it is well recognized the congress has expressed concerns about the closure of guantanamo facility. we have released a number of individuals from guantanamo since president obama -- transferring many of those overseas to their countries of origin or to third countries. there are a number of individuals now that are moving in to the prosecution path, notably the co-conspirators of 9/11. there has been an announcement about military commissions moving forward. there's a population at guantanamo now some of whom will be prosecuted and some who will possibly be transferred abroad. what the president said is he wants to close one, responsibly and in a way that does not threaten american security. this is something that will continue to work with the congress about. requires congressional support, partnership. this is something that is still very much a policy of this administration but we are not going to do

guantanamo. i expect that the remaining bills also will include this language. at some point soon we are going to need to move beyond trying to legislate this matter into appropriations bills and instead deal with establishing new and appropriate policies and guidelines to bring our national security needs in line with our historic national values. mr. speaker, the underlying legislation contains essential funding for critical military construction programs and for our nation's veterans. it is fitting that we consider this legislation so soon after memorial day when the sacrifices made by so many service men and women are still on our minds. veterans deserve our thanks and our admiration and we owe them the necessary resources to meet their health care, education, and housing needs. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from florida. mr. webster: i yield five minutes to the gentleman from florida, mr. nugent. the speaker pro tempore: the

detention facility at guantanamo bay, cuba.blican says he wants terror suspects arrested in his home state transferred to gitmo and tried there. the kentucky republican and senate republican leader mitch o'connell joins from us capitol hill. senator, why? these would suspects were arrested here in the united states. track record is arrested here and tried here and why do you think they should go to gitmo? >> we set up military commissions, statutory process, for trying foreign terrorists. typically captured overseas. these are not american citizens. their offense occurred in iraq against iraqi citizens. you can put foreigners in u.s. article iii courts but the question is should you? the answer is you should not. for a whole variety of reasons. number one, bring the war on terror to bowling green, kentucky. you have security problems with regard to the judge, the prosecutor, jurors. you have security problems at the local government ends up having to pick up related to the transferring of prisoners back and forth between the ja

and when the operating manual for the guantanamo bay prison camp was leaked, wikileaks published it.ense says honor bound to defend freedom is on the front of it. the value is on the front of guantanamo bay. >> reporter: wikileaks soon found itself in the cross hairs of the u.s. army. this 2008 secret counter intelligence report ironically leaked to wikileaks, identified it as a threat and revealed ways to shut it down. assange, though, remained defiant. >> when we're attacked, that is usually the worst move that someone can do. the information is not going to disappear any time soon. >> reporter: growing pressure drove wikileaks underground. two of its servers was moved to a james bond style bullet proof bunker in sweden. assange went into a safe haven and found one in iceland. by 2009, iceland was a country on its knees. a banking crisis had brought it to the edge of bankruptcy, causing riots president streets. banks went under and thousands lost their life savings. >> iceland was hit harder than any other country by the banking collapse. >> reporter: enter wikileaks. in july 2009,

the defense of freedom as a value is on the front of guantanamo bay. >> reporter: wikileaks soon foundin the crosshairs of the u.s. army. this 2008 secret counterintelligence report ironically leaked to wikileaks identified it as a threat and reveals way to shut it down. assange, though, remained defiant. >> when we're attacked, that is usually the worst move that someone can do. the information is not going to disappear any time soon. >> reporter: growing pressure drove wikileaks underground. two of its servers were moved to a james bond style bunker in sweeden. assange went to iceland. by 2009, iceland was a country on its knees. a banking crisis had brought it to the edge of bankruptcy, causing riots in the streets. banks went under, and thousands lost their life savings. >> iceland was bothered by the international banking cleanse. >> reporter: enter wikileaks n.july of 2009, they posted a secret loan book from one of the largest failed banks, revealing risky loans to its own shareholders. the bank quickly launched a counterattack. >> we got letters from the bank saying they could