guantÁnamo is expensive.e permanent the prison obscures much deeper fare, and implicates all of us, left, right and center. namely, a continued occupation of guantÁnamo itself. i think it's past time to return this legacy to cuba. from the moment the united states government force cuba to lease the bay in june 1901, the american presence there has been more than a thorn in castro's site. it serve to remind people the world over of america's long history of interventionist militarism. huge gestures to have a salutary effect on the current impasse in american cuban relations of handing over the bay. bear with me as i returned one last time to the historical window that preceded the u.s. occupation of guantÁnamo. as a circumstances by which that came about or as troubling as subsequent u.s. activity there. in april 1898, american forces intervened in cuba's three year old struggle in independence when it was all but one. transforming the cuban were independents and what we like to call the spanish-american war.

they want to keep guantanamo but the administration wants to close it. they don't want to transfer people out. there has been a battle over whether the whole array of tools can be used. the most fundamental one has been a no tolerance policy toward torture under any circumstances. at the beginning of

guantanamo is an american possession or whatever it is, it's rented. the point is that we conducted things that as people that are ruled by law how in the world can you possibly explain that if nazis did torture it was wrong, and if somebody else does it, if good guys do it, it's overlooked, it's somehow put aside? same thing with a military court. for once in my life, i would like to see them decide they belong to military court or civilian court. let them give them a fair trial if that's what they want to do, but -- [inaudible] somehow doesn't make sense. >> thank you. ma'am l? >> hi. i'm a little short. annie marino from allegheny college. my question is what do you suggest that the united states do about very dangerous subjects who have been detained with, um, evidence provided by torture when they might be released, if ever put through due process? >> we really have two questions on the same issue of torture. i don't know, william, you want to start? and then -- >> well, i mean, the question of guantanamo and harold can answer this much more, much

general mattis, i want to ask you about the recidivism rate from guantanamo. the associated press ran a story yesterday which i believe is misleading, and the headline was "not so many guantanamo reoffenders." this story said that far fewer detainees released from the guantanamo bay have rejoined terrorist activities than previously reported. however, before this committee, this is an issue that i've questioned many individuals about. last year director clapper said that re-engagement rates from former guantanamo detainees who were confirmed or suspected of re-engaging was 27%. in fact, just three weeks ago he was before our committee again and he actually said that the re-engagement rate of those who had re-engaged were, we've confirmed, are in the fight or suspected to be re-engaging was actually increased close to 28%. i believe it's 27.9%. and, of course, we've heard the same testimony from secretary gates as well as secretary vickers that the way that we calculate the recidivism rate is not just those who are returned but those are just who have suspected

this story is literally bookended by scenes in guantanamo bay. as bob mentioned, i'm one of the few reporters who sat in that courtroom with muhammad and his coconspirators, 20 feet away from these men. and the first chapter is called "made in the usa." it's an overview of who these people are. it's not just al awlaki who was born in new mexico and went to school right here in colorado. it's not just major nadal hasan, the alleged shooter at fort hood. it's the jihad janes and those from alabama who are now the western face of the al qaeda affiliate in somalia. it's also a chapter that shows you how this white house was so reluctant to call fort hood an act of terrorism. fort hood was not a drive by shooting. it was not a convenience store shooting. it was not an example of workplace violence. fort hood fits the class of definition for terrorism. it was an act of violence to promote a political end. one of the things i do in the book is show you how washington works. and i take you into a conference call. it's called a background conference call.

we need to be able to hold those terrorists somewhere safe and secure, which guantanamo is. having said that, there seems with the latest news in particular, to be no terrorist barack obama is unwilling to release. and these commanders are five of the top taliban commanders at gawpt gawpt. the joint task force at guantanamo, the entity that is responsible for the intelligence, for the detainees, who knows the most about these detainees has classified them as posing a high risk to the united states and to our allies. they have long-standing ties to al qaeda and they said they should not be released. they should remain in u.s. custody. so the white house has a lot of explaining to do on this one. >> sean: a lot of explaining. number 1, they have apparently been negotiating with the taliban. now, if you remember, when president reagan was in office, we had this issue, the iran contra and there was a lot of outrage, expressed by the left. i want any american eye am told through my sources that they're talking about an american soldier here. i want them released. but do we releas

general mattis, i want to ask you about the recidivism rate from guantanamo. the associated press ran a store to which i believe is misleading and the headline was not so many guantanamo real offenders. this said fewer detainees released from guantanamo bay have rejoined terrorist activities than previously reported. before this committee this is an issue by questioned many individuals about. last year director clapper said the real engagement rate from former guantanamo detainees who were confirmed or suspected of being gaging was 27%. three weeks ago before the committee, he actually said the real engagement rate of those who read and aged confirmed are in the fight or suspected to be read engaging was actually increased close to 28%. with 27.9%. of course we heard the same testimony from secretary gates and secretary vickers that the way we calculate the recidivism rate is not just those who have returned but those who are suspected of returning to the fight. one of the big issues we have is it is difficult to determine who has read engaged because we are s

what is the current re-engagement raid of terrorists who have been released from guantÁnamo and havehey gone up again in the 27%? >> i think the next assessment will reflect a very small less than one percentage point increase. >> so the next assessment will reflect perhaps a percentage increase, so from 27% to 28%? >> somewhere in that neighborhood. >> certainly anyone being released from there and getting back is one too many, isn't it? >> has. >> i wanted to ask you about, there has been reports from the administration about the potential of exchanging and i asked secretary panetta about this the other day, of five detainees to cutter in exchange -- qatar in exchange for the taliban in afghanistan. as i understand, the detainees that have been reported by both "the washington post" and "the wall street journal," they have been previously assessed by the administration in 2010 to present a high risk of returning to the site. has the designation for these five detainees changed by the administration? >> no, maam, they have not, and i hasten to add that of course negotiations have al

>> but we don't have a designated facility because we're essentially not taking anyone else in guantanamo as far as i understand it pursuant to the administration's policy. >> there is not a dez ig natur d -- designated facility, no. >> one of the concerns i have, we can't hold them on a ship if we have to hold them in long term detention. you would both agree with me on that principle? >> yes, ma'am. >> yes, ma'am. >> so it's not clear where we would put them if we captured them tomorrow? >> no, ma'am. we have captured, you know, some people and we have been able to facilitate their transfer to a detention facility. >> well, i would hope that we would not bring those two individuals to the united states of america. because i'd have a hard time explaining that to my constituents when we have the availability of the guantanamo detention facility. i would hope that wouldn't be an often given how dangerous those individuals are. do you think that's a good option, bringing them to the united states? >> that is a policy decision, ma'am. it certainly an option for the president to consider. >>

has a decision been made regarding the transfer of detainees to guantÁnamo?> no commissary. >> okay. dr. dirk, you stated that about a decade of funding increases to the intelligence community now has part of the defense budget cuts have been mandated by the law that was passed by congress that there is now a reduction in the defense department budget that includes the intelligence community budget as well. and that would reduce some capability. my question is whether you are able to administer the cut in a way that any reduction in capability is manageable and acceptable. >> yes, sir, we can. not just to be clear, that is under the budget control act. africa sequestration, that's quite a different matter. >> minus the budget control it. under the 2013 budget request, which does follow the budget control act that came in for the administration a few days ago, that request in hooded or request to your budget and reduction has your support. >> yes, sir, it does. >> senator portman. you can take some of the brunt for delaying the launch for your good instincts a

guantanamo bay is a factor there are people who have been officially deemed on tribal meaning they will be held indefinitely without so much as a hearing because they've been tortured by us or the three detainees suddenly died while engaging in a hunger strike they were protesting the living conditions at the time of course the government quickly labeled the death a suicide and it wasn't until two years a thousand page boy request later that we learn that the three men died in quite elaborate circumstances which ultimately led many to believe that guards and get no facilitated those deaths but of course those stories don't interest fox news kids here in the us are having their soccer programs cut while detainees get a new feel that just does it for the whole network join in including red eyes. just time for spring getting a new soccer field at the cost of seventeen billion dollars it's seven hundred fifty grand here still. yeah it's also funny but i think the most insightful comment about getting it was one made by one of great guests until greg chimes in. and we are never ever ever lea

members of the house and staffer from the i preparation committee want answers on the guantanamo bay soccer field. one of the congressman who is introducing the no field act that would pemmize the defense department and cut the 2013 budget by $744,000. the price tag for the controversial project. >> we are talking about a significant amount of money being spent for terrorist detainees at a camp. that we have been told is supposed to be closed. what follows a terrorist soccer league? these radicals should be doing hard time. not soccer time. >> guantanamo soccer field half the size of american football field has special passengers to allow detainee go from detention center to outdoors without military escort. leon panetta was asked about the project at this week's house budget hearing where he defended the plan to increase healthcare fees for the military. >> did you know apparently our federal taxpayers are paying for $750,000 soccer field at gitmo? is that something that the department of defense knew about? >> sorry, what was that? >> $750,000 soccer field at gitmo that was just an

group reprieve who dared to fed guantanamo prisoners early on everyone else was terrified it's a part of the climate of fear that we're in and it's particularly shameful of media outlets that used. to get their scoops to be completely silent about his imprisonment they have a they have an obligation to this madness speak out on his behalf and demand answers from the white house well we'll see i guess if the car crash takes up at all after today and after the release of your piece but you know another thing i have to ask is do you think it is this an isolated incident or is this something that could be the beginning perhaps of a crackdown on more than just brown guy any and journalists like yourself like myself like other and then reporters be affected by this is this a trend you know i mean i think that his case is an extreme one where you have a journalist actually being railroaded and then locked away in prison what i'm more concerned about for american journalists or british journalist particularly american journalists is that in this culture where this administration is going afte

the taliban demanded the release of five of their fighters from guantanamo. they said they be transported to cutter under surveillance. the americans demanded that the taliban cut off all ties with al qaeda and end its armed struggle. >>> the official was widely expected to be named to a a central post in the leadership transition this fall. there's now growing speculation that he was fired over allegati allegations of corruption involving a close aid. a news agency reported the decision by the communist party's central committee to replace him, who was the secretary. the vice president will assume the post. a close aid was dismissed as head of the public security bureau on february 2 pd. he later visited the u.s. consulate. the incident triggered speculation that he may have been seeking asylasylum. he has been questioned on corruption charges. so what happens behind his bow's removal? we have the analysis from beijing. >> reporter: widely expected to be named to china's communist party at the convention later this year. now the subject of an investigation w

we start and finish in guantanamo bay. and it is really something to sit in that courtroom with these men. it really is. because it is very educational, very instructive. i really believe that the best reporting is the reporting that you do with your own eyes. it was one of the final court appearances for the 9/11 suspects. as you know, they were at military commissions and then attorney general eric holder said they're going to n.y. and that was ultimately reversed. so this is one of their final appearances. as a side note, i wish all of you -- if you read the book, you'll meet some of these 9/11 family members -- the fact that there has not been a trial for these people in a decade is criminal. these are people who read through their children's cellphone records up until the moment the tower collapsed because they had to understand their babies final minutes. and nothing has happened. so in the courtroom, there is al qaeda royalty. his family and osama bin l adin's family or friends. he was one of the guys who was really

one way we've fallen short is closing guantanamo. it sooner. we missed that deadline. you understand in this election the greatest risk we can take is try to same old politics with the same old flair and expect a different result. >> summers brings a combination of skill, intellect and experience in the role he'll play in our administration. >> i'm running because of what dr. king called the fierce urgency of now. because i believe there is such a thing as being too late. >> i always believed that this was a long-term project. it will take more than a year. it will take more than two years. it will take more than one term. it will probably take more than one president. >> the fierce urgency of now. dean, let me start with you, here. >> sure. >> i know that you prefer the campaign obama, but how do we get the campaign obama to become the governing obama? >> i don't know if it's possible, frankly, cenk. there is so much involved in our government that involves compromise, something that tea party people believes is a dirty word. progre

the people at guantanamo bay, there are some people being held there for multiple years, is that correct? >> yes. >> has the fbi interviewed the populati population of guantanamo bay. >> yes. >> don't you believe the way to question them is to not torture them but use traditional military techniques? >> that's somewhat of a loaded question. >> if you say -- >> i would say we follow our rules -- >> you don't torture people in the fbi, do you? >> pardon? >> you don't torture people. >> no, sir. >> and you get good inform snoogs yes. >> i totally agree. what i would suggest to the committee is snochlt mikulski's request for a see question trags, if this is not a wakeup call, what would be. i think he's doing a marvelous job. if we do, we're going to devastate one of the front line agencies in the war on terror. ten years ago, what was the fbi's budget when it came to national security issues? what percentage of your budget? before 9/11. >> i would say one-fifth of the budget back in 2001 was national security and i would say the principal percentage of that was addressed to espionage in the

bay to get some of the so thank you for that support and to all those at guantanamo bay doing their job, you're going a great service. particularly the defense counsels. >> i think that's right. i think people should understand when i sent people down for military commission treatmen revised commissions that exist, as i said in my speech at northwestern have many of the elements of due process that we consider vital to the american system. i think we have great defense lawyers down there. the military system doesn't get the credit it deserves for the fair way it deals with people and under the direction of mark martins, who is a person i've known for some time i think we'll be proud of the work they do. >> thank you very much, mr. attorney general. senator feinstein before senator anpryou and others for mentioning the cyberexercise yesterday and all who participated. next week we'll hear froe open hearing and then we're going to do a classified hel be an opportunity to ask many of your cyberquestions and go to a level of details i think the committee would like. so thank you. senato

we started and finished at guantanamo bay. and it's really something to sit in that courtroom with these men. it really is. because it's very educational. very instructive. i really believe the best reporting is the reporting you do with your own eyes. and it was one of the final court appearances for the 9/11 suspects, as you know, they were in military commissions and attorney general eric holder said they were going to new york. that was ultimately reversed. so this is one of their final court appearances in the first round. the second should come at some point this year. on a side note, i wish all of you -- and if you read the book, you'll meet some of the family members. the fact there hasn't been a trial for these people in a decade is criminal. these are people who read through their children's cell phone records up until the moment the tower collapsed because they had to understand nothing has happened. so in the courtroom, there's someone called wally ben tash. but he's like al qaeda royalty. his family and bin laden'

get this free travel bag when you join at aarp.org/jointoday. >> shepard: word from guantanamo bay fordeal maryland man who is helping al qaeda plot attacks against the united states. the guy's name is magid khan a pakistani national who first came to the united states about 16 years ago. he once worked alongside khalid sheikh mohammed mastermind of the attacks of 9/11. they say khan this guy was part of a wave to carry out a second wave of attacks inside the united states. now we are hearing he may testify against khalid sheikh mohammed the 9/11 mastermind at his trial. catherine herridge is at gitmo. she was in the courtroom where today khan made his first appearance in nearly a decade. >> shepard, i was just 15 yards away from khan as he entered the courtroom. 11 court security officers, he was unshackled. he was very american, very western in his appearance. after the three hour hearing he was depicted as al qaeda operative filled with remorse. >> immediately when i met mr. khan, you could tell he was a person who wanted a second chance at life. i think you see a very credible resu

now what we know there are seven hundred seventy nine prisoners who were sent to guantanamo bay under the bush administration so they hundred seventy one remain so been transferred or released all the one has been brought to trial in the united states and sentenced to life in prison and eight have died at the prison and the circumstances surrounding some of those deaths are mysterious just. a link and a call for debate and calls for investigation but it will take a look at the deaths of two detainee abdul rahman along may of two thousand and seven and the holiday villa folly in two thousand and nine both were labeled a suicide by the department of defense brought out the reports released last year and so recently on exam and raise questions as to whether these are really it was or something else joining me has got this is jeffrey kaye psychologist and contributor for truthout or separate and i thought back on the show tonight i guess first tell me why it is that if this information the thought out there for its release last year they went on examined for so long or really only finding

with razors are not given to guantanamo to be thinking these in there were very closely monitored so those isn't there at the start were very good at all laundry was a special case related segregated prisoner. in those prisoners were not even given reasons during the shower period so some question as to how he got a razor. and how it wasn't discovered during that route. constant. as we know from various he's seen it before it's oh yeah let me let's talk about this other case too with. he had been somebody who you mentioned and i wonder if you think that this might be a cause for motivation somebody who was the representative considered a leader amongst the detainees at who it partake in memory of hunger strike the which there is this horrible method where they were that a force feeding him at the same time he was supposed to be under constant supervision right where they were twenty four and with surveillance where they were checking on him every five minutes so what happened there. well that's true too for the way of a lottery the prisoners were supposed to be in their current studi

if if you can access the same sort of documents at a trial for a guantanamo detainee you should be able to access those documents if you're a member of the media and you are. looking into a soldier you're covering the case of an american soldier and you're not able to access the same documents that just doesn't make any sense now he is being called by his critics a threat to national security yes or no what do you think about that but personally i don't think he's a threat i don't know what conclusions they're drawing from especially when you look at him he's almost like the sort of person who could pose such a threat but i understand that he released or is alleged to have released almost half a million documents certainly it was very embarrassing for the u.s. government so i guess that alone might make him a national security for all right kavin of all thank you for keeping us updated and we will continue to keep our viewers updated on this very important case that was kevin don't kill a blogger for it to censor dot firedoglake dot com. well it seems the mass media has officially given

well you know that they do they actually talked about guantanamo specifically but they talk about new opportunities so they talk about immigrant detainees as being a new untapped market but they're not in it all but you know i mean it does seem like there's a big trend between sort of the private army is for the blackwater type companies just in general sort of the military and defense state and the military and security state being privatized seems to be probably a trend that's only going to grow while you know i guess i guess that the markets are always right the consequences aside i think you're right thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us on this job my son paul the deputy editor for the business insider. well the private prison industry may be in a recession proof mode but the cost of a college education sadly is not and they to congress it just got a heck of a lot more expensive to earn that degree now on july first interest rates on federally subsidized loans are going to double from three point four percent to six point eight percent congress doesn't step in as

detail but i do write about one ton of mo a military prosecutor girl vanderbilt who was sent to guantanamo and had a crisis of conscience and like the other characters in the book he was in some ways a very traditional guy who had served in iraq in a unit that suffered heavy casualties very much believed in the constitution and saw it in his mind being violated and felt that wasn't ok in terms of the intimidation i think actually discouraging whistle blowing and these kinds of acts in the united states at least happens in two different ways within the national security agencies like the cia and state department and n.s.a. and so forth the government tends to take very tends to be very alert to whistleblowers and people who. question authority and who leak information to the media or who try to report suspected wrongdoing in the financial and private sector in the corporate world what you find unfortunately is that the government pays too little attention to these people that is they make their complaints they risk their jobs and no one listens and no one responds until it's too late so we

the tool that david cameron will raise the issue or shack up with the last british resident in guantanamo who neither the u.s. government wants. and the british government wants a back he's been. the u.s. doesn't want him the british wants him back why is he still have but apparently when these guys need they never discussed it so i wouldn't imagine that the. other terrible instances of people's lives being ruined are necessarily a good be the kind of things that are on the agenda while they're busy watching sporting matches going to having a. question we're out of time but on the agenda looks like we probably won't know about it because. here in the us. one time. ok well there is an update on this story as it pertains to the extradition treaty at least as andy worthington just explained the treaty was an act in the aftermath of nine eleven and it seems to be a bit lost sight in favor of the united states and at least has been criticized as being unfair to british citizens now it turns out that a few hours after my interview with andy president obama agreed to top level talks on cutting t

i want to ask you about the recidivism rate in guantÁnamo. story which i believe was misleading and the headline was not so many guantÁnamo three offenders. the story said far fewer detainees released from guantÁnamo bay have rejoined terrorist activity as previously reported. however before this committee this is an issue that i've questioned many individuals about. last year director clapper said the re-engagement rate from former guantÁnamo detainees were confirmed or suspected of re-engaging with 27% and in fact just three weeks ago before a committee again and he actually said that he reengage -- the re-engagement rate of those who led reengage where we conformed suspected to be re-engaging with increasing close to 20% and i believe it's 27.9%. and of course we heard the same testimony from secretary gates as well as secretary vickers that the way we calculate the recidivism rate is not just those who have returned but those who have been suspected of returning to the side. one of the big issues we have of course is that it's difficult t

a new report says one in four former detainees at guantanamo bay had re-engaged in terrorist activitystody. there are currently 171 prisoners at guantanamo bay. >> rush limbaugh says his apology to george thune law student -- a georgetown law student is sincere. >> is sponsors may think it is too little too late. jummy olabanji has the latest. >> good morning the list of advertisers keeps increasing, the ones dropping from the rush limbaugh show. it is up to nine this morning and one radio station says it is dropping the show altogether. >> she is a full-fledged feminist activist. >> on a share yesterday, he continued to criticize georgetown student sandra fluke, but he said the names he just a caller last with four out of line. >> i sincerely apologize. >> appearing on " the view," she downplayed his apologies. >> his comments about may have been personal enough so i don't want a personal phone call from him. >> there's a growing list of advertisers dropping the rush limbaugh show. >> people can say anything but what about women like rappers and they call it art. >> some are coming t

forthcoming about the legal reasons that are being advanced for targeted killing and certainly on guantanamo it's disappointing that we're you know three years out from the administration's top promise to close the facility and not enough has been done over half of the detaining essential there for this place at this time that's right i mean many detainees have been transferred but many are still there over half the existing population is cleared for release and congressional restrictions have presented prevented that from happening but this this administration has an opportunity to transfer some of those clear detainees and make progress on its on its own stated policy goals a lot of obligations and i guess it remains to be seen whether that progress will actually take place thank you so much for taking the time to join us today that's what all advocacy council for human rights first. well super tuesday came and went but despite the media hyperventilation it was more of a super bled down frankly now there is a bit of a debate over whether mitt romney won or lost by clinching six states yest

far fewer detainees released from guantÁnamo bay have previously reported.wever, before this committee, this is an issue that if questioned individuals about it last year. said they reengaged every from former guantÁnamo detainees who were confirmed or did every engaging with 27%. in fact, three weeks ago, and many again and he actually said that the reading teacher that those who had reengaged were reconfirmed her in the fight or suspected to be in re-engaging with increase close to 20%. and that is 27.9%. of course here the same testimony from secretary gates as well as secretary vickers at the way that we calculate the recidivism rate is not just those who overturn come overturn come of it does have suspected returning faith. one of the big issues we have of course is that it is difficult to determine who has ran gage because we are so poor once they had reengaged a reconfirming. we can't always reconfirm who is out there, who was at fighting us again and often we find when we encounter them in the battlefield or elsewhere. and so i want to ask you about,

ataques con bombas está acusado de asesinar y conspiración, puede ser enviado a la cárcel militar en guantánamoo por varios años, la sentencia se espera que sea de 15 años. en vigilia del senado otra vez falló en autor una adhesión del presupuesto corregido del gobernador para un presupuesto de dos años de 85,000 millones de dólares, el presupuesto de ser aprobado por la mayoría de los 40 senadores pero con 20 republicanos y 20 demócratas, esto está estancado, si la asamblea general no aprueba el presupuesto para finales del año fiscal en julio, el gobierno podría dejar de funcionar por la falta de fondos, tras varios días de investigación las autoridades del condado de prince george de saber exactamente cuál fue la causa del incendio en el área del hebreo que dejó varios bomberos heridos la semana pasada, hoy en una conferencia de prensa expresaron su molestia al descubrir qué fue lo que hizo que es fuera una gran pesadilla para los miembros del grupo de rescate. >> reportera: los bomberos autoridades del condado de prince george están indignados luego de descubrir la causa del incendio en mar

. >> un paquistaní preso en guantánamo se declaró de espionaje y ferrorismo. -- terrorismo. >> un ejipsioia. >> tropas del gobierno sirio atacaron un din trito que lleva 25 días bajo bombardeos. una división armada liderada por el hermano menor del presidente realizaba una ofensiva para lic dar a los rebeldes. >> las causas del ataque se desconocen, pero hace unos meses las autoridades habían censurado al artista por cantar sobre la criminalidad. el incidente ha revivido el debate sobre la violencia en el país. >> la delincuencia sigue sin dar tregua. Éstas son las imágenes entre policías y delincuentes. el resultado, cuatro muertos, entre ellos un transeunte, a plena luz del sol en el centro de caracas. >> decían que ya estaba muerto, pero en realidad no estaba muerto. Él movía los brazos y las piernas. >> el mismo día, al otro lado de la ciudad, estaba luna benitez relatando el caso de su hijo quien recibió un tiro en la cabeza. mostraba en uno de sus videos la violencia que vive el país. >> fue una imagen muy fea ver a mi hijo bañado en

i guess it's a matter of taking care of guantanamo and making sure the facility remains in place andto standards. the question is whether you are going to close it. that is not cheap. >> sean: every brings they are needs a $750 million soccer field. let me move on other points. >> i agree. entering the gitmo in the olympics. [ laughter ] >> sean: charles wins the day. let's start with six days to super tuesday. i would say mitt romney, doesn't come back but a good showing by rick santorum. want to get your thoughts? >> it was a good showing by santorum, given the lack of money. romney has surrogates and established supporters and governors all over the country that can rally for him and speak to him. santorum is essentially a solo operation. given all that. he really needed the win in michigan because that would have been shattering. that really would have upset the romney campaign. there was one anonymous romney supporter who said a couple weeks ago that if romney loses in michigan we have to look for another candidate. that was his shot to break the mold. we're back in the main nar