it settled at guantanamo as well . the court held that the suspension claus has full affect at guantanamo. the result of which is there will be, has been, shall be judicial review going forward for the now 160 sell-off detainees still held at guantanamo. the reason why the guantanamo concept is less interesting is because these aren't all legacy cases. there have been no knew detainee's says to a dozen sixth, and there are fairly compelling reasons why they won't be inclined to add tt is a steadily reduced to eating po. instead, this matters for non-citizens elsewhere, picked up outside the united states, will feature u.s. detention policy be subject to judicial review? if not because all we're doing is putting a policy and non law. it seems like that is the question that comes first. after the decision in april 2009 the judicial judge held in the case that the suspension claus actually does also run to bagram at least in cases where the individual in question is not a citizen of afghanistan and was not arrested and af

saying that we should close guantanamo i have warned you know to regarding you know a lot of times when you know regular people think of guantanamo bay they do think you know the worst of the worst the terrorists are held there but let's not forget that that a large number of people at one time of day right now have been cleared for release but just can't have not been released because of certain political situations and that the countries you know their country of origin so i think it's important to note here that a lot of these i think you said crazy bastards using lindsey graham's words are not exactly that that's right and that's and the same when lindsay graham says you are terrorists shut up you don't get a lawyer who is deciding what people have done in advance but that's what we have the courts for we have the courts so people can give due process in a fair trial so you know i think this is another terrible provision. i don't know whether it will cause the president to veto it i don't i don't think he will but whatever whatever he does it goes against obama's campaign promises t

it's a value that seems to have gotten lost with guantanamo.the things that i think a lot of people don't realize is for all senator graham talking about what a great prison guantanamo is, the american taxpayers are paying $85 million per year to hold 163 people. half of them have already been cleared for release. that's over half a million dollars per prisoner. in the federal prison system, even for maximum security, it's more in the range of 35 to $40,000 to hold a prisoner. so we're paying over ten times per prisoner to hold people. and a lot of these people are purely innocent. the entire national security apparatus has said there is no reason they should be held, they should be cleared. that's over half the people there. >> you recently wrote an article that said don't be fooled by the new national defense act. was it not a good compromise? >> this is something where unfortunately senator feinstein, who really comes from a good place on this, has been working really hard on this ended up with a badly drafted amendment. and unfortunately, i

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to lecture us when you've got guantanamo. so it's that lingering mark on our national character and you go in the military commissions official website you go on yahoo or google put in military commissions at the top they will come up as the official web site on their web site their motto is fairness transparency and justice and if you did you know you can have fairness in trenton justice but if you don't have the transparency in the world it's going to be skeptical so if we want to regain our credibility and if we truly are committed to fairness transparency and justice then we can have the secret proceedings to try to hide what we did in the past right and i know that president obama said val that his administration would be a transparent a transparent one a lot of people saying that that is not the case but some senators do agree with what you're saying right now senator mccain a prisoner of war himself wants the report that you speak of to be declassified we have a clip of had talking about this. they had a lot of access

the key issue is guantanamo. those prisoners, 166 prisoners including 50 hard-core, the president said we don't know what we're going to do with those people. they would be sitting without a legal framework if we pull back from this war powers declaration from 2001. that's a big issue. that's a complex one. >> ron, thank you. it's great to have you here. >> my pleasure. >> if you want to have a further gander of that speech, we're posting clips on our website if you want to check that out. >>> you know the shady trickery from this year's election about who would get to vote and how hard certain states were going to make it to vote? all that trickery is still paying dividends today. that story is next. >>> in the midterm elections and all the excitement over republicans taking over congress that year, speaker of the house changing from nancy pelosi to john boehner. instead in the face of that big deal changeover after the 2010 elections, it was overlooked for awhile. that brought an even bigger change. it swept po

guantanamo is over a decade old, but we're nowhere near ready for that.r 600 detainees have been released, according to human rights watch, another 166 still remain in cuba today, and two years ago, of course, congress passed a law for those detainees from being transferred to the u.s. congress has put up as many roadblocks as possible to keep the guantanamo bay prison open. but most other countries won't take these detainees, so congress has frozen our detention policy in the past. president obama, frankly, has not pushed back enough, even though closing guantanamo was a key pledge, of course, from his first presidential campaign. this problem won't go away by itself, and i think the prospect of passing the buck to a third presidential administration is unconscionable. craig? >> what's happened with the president? you mention it there, it was a promise that he made. is it just a lack of political will or have there been other obstacles? >> i think there were two phases on this, number one, really into it when the white house council's office took over th

the answer to your question is no nothing has been found to indicate that this came out of guantanamo. as far as why this won't be released so far as some of the other things contained in this report there are a whole lot of theories out there one of the theories is simply that whether or not the american public should be aware of this and it depends on where you fall if you think that knowledge is power is one side and the other side would be sort of ignorance is bliss' a whole lot of people operating under that i spoke to colonel morris davis yesterday about about the back of the senate intelligence committee would most likely be keeping this under wraps he is a former prosecutor at guantanamo bay left the job because he strongly disagreed with some of these techniques in the way they were being used i asked him why he thought this report was being kept hidden and here's his response. i think a lot of these cases is not about the future harm which is always what cited national securities in jeopardy and if we tell you know what's going on it will impact future operations but more of

the key issue is guantanamo. those prisoners, 166 prisoners including 50 hard-core, the president said we don't know what we're going to do with those people. they would be sitting without a legal framework if we pull back from this war powers declaration from 2001. that's a big issue. that's a complex one. >> ron suskind, senior fellow for ethics, thank you. it's great to have you here. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> if you want to have a further gabder of that speech from jeh johnson, we're posting clips of it at maddowblog.com. check that out. you know the shady trickery from this year's election about how would get the vote and how hard certain states were going to make it to vote this year? all that trickery is still paying dividends today. still. that story is next. s black bean soup spectacular? [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. some aerosols may

the being issue is guantanamo. this particular pronouncement by jay johnson really is about guantanamo. under the current legal framework that we're looking at, guantanamo, that won't work if we're not at war. they will have to come up with a different legal structure to make that operative. certainly, congress can do that at some point. but guantanamo is the question mark based on what johnson said. maybe johnson auditioning for attorney general, he's out of there in january. but it may be even more than that a predicate. a little bit of groundwork by this administration to say, we're thinking about this and this may be up ahead. now that this president doesn't have to stand for re-election. >> in terms of that as a predicate, maybe a political predicate, for jay johnson or administration of a whole, is there significance in particular of him delivering this speech not in the united states? he did this speech at oxford and did it right after the election. do you see that as important? >> yeah, you know, i think ti

prison in guantanamo many of them were subject to torture the chief prosecutor at guantanamo and a george w. bush told me most of them were not terrorists and due to the extraordinary rendition program all kinds of people would end up there from different countries for different reasons stripped of their rights many human rights organizations have been vocal about a lawful practices at guantanamo and yet it's still open by the way despite president obama's pledges to close the prison. and let's go back to our top story some reaction from some of our selway a spokesman for the muslim brotherhood's freedom and justice party will be talking about egypt of course mr assad we welcome to the show so what's your response to critics who say the sharia centric constitution betrays the revolution and sidelines the rights of minorities in egypt. i can't hear the voice can you repeat again the question please of course mr sorry can you hear us now hello can you hear us yes second year of iran taffrail so what's your response to those who say to critics who say the sharia centric constitution betrays

prison in guantanamo many of them were subject to torture the chief prosecutor at guantanamo and a george w. bush told me most of them were not terrorists and due to the extraordinary rendition program all kinds of people would end up there from different countries for different reasons stripped of their rights many human rights organizations have been vocal about a lawful practices that guantanamo and yet it's still open by the way despite president obama's pledges to close the prison. the u.k. is looking to beef up its military presence in the gulf we talk about that soon on the way we've got expert opinion what might be behind britain's plans to strengthening its defense ties with the region's royal. almost three billion dollars it affirms megadeals have been signed between russia and india president putin's on a visit to new delhi cementing toys with fast growing economies as they continue to try and boost the global influence of his with financial reports next on how their improved world standing though is worrying some in the west russia and india have signed around three billion do

prison in guantanamo many of them were subject to torture the chief prosecutor at guantanamo and a george w. bush told me most of them were not terrorists and due to the extraordinary rendition program all kinds of people would end up there from different countries for different reasons stripped of their rights many human rights organizations have been vocal about a lawful practices that guantanamo and yet it's still open by the way despite president obama's pledges to close the prison. recently released f.b.i. documents have revealed that the bureau treated the peaceful occupy movement as a potential criminal and terrorist threat they have a reductive documents show that the agency was carrying out close surveillance against members of occupy wall street and even mentions an assassination plot against the activists however it's unclear who was behind it the movement began in september twenty leavening new york city's financial district with protesters rallying against corporate greed and economic inequality and independent journalist . says the f.b.i. is making a mistake by signing with

we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on their secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing at our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing anti russian laws it's something absurd and we have a no way provoked such action. you. know that never. well as a russian lawmakers are working on what they say will be a proportionate response to the monuments garecht many are proposing to ban americans from adopting a russian children according to the president of the main problem with adoption between russia and the united states is not even in the cases of violations of the rights of children and cases of abuse but if you lack of a proper legal reaction from american afterwards to these cases including the lack of serious punishments and the president's also reminded of an adoption agreement reached earlier between moscow and washington which is supposed to allow russian officials to monitor what happens to russian children after they're ad

recently and putin says that the us is a country which is still uses prisons like i will graber guantanamo where that's why legions of human rights have been on a daily basis has no rights to criticize the human rights situation in russia. our us are partners and their lawmakers say they are concerned about human rights in our prisons and that's fine of course but there are plenty of issues they have themselves abu ghraib and guantanamo where for years people have been detained without charge it's inconceivable to go to the prisoners walk around in chains like in the middle ages legalize torture inside their own country if something like that happened here it would cause an international outcry and all remains quiet in the us we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there is no secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing out is our problems well thank you who are aware of that making this the ground for passing anti russian laws it's something else sir and we have a no w

prison in guantanamo many of them were subject to torture the chief prosecutor at guantanamo and a george w. bush told me most of them were not terrorists and due to the extraordinary rendition program all kinds of people would end up there from different countries for different reasons stripped of their rights many human rights organizations have been vocal about a lawful practice is that guantanamo and yet it's still open by the way despite president obama's pledges to close the prison. egypt's our friend the results are due but as the clock ticking towards fresh protests. the opposition rallies continued resistance to the draft no matter what more on that later in the program also for you. who are used to living. now economically disadvantaged occupy substandard housing in the inner cities. blinding voters with vocabulary we look behind the new american political lexicon that how someone text what the parties are really up to that's coming up for you after a short break. what do you see when you look at the scroll perhaps you wonder what bright future she'll have or maybe you feel symp

we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing at our problems well thank you we are aware of that you making this the ground for passing anti russian laws it's something absurd and we have a no way provoked such action she just she just did what he did so as russian lawmakers continue working on what they say will be a proportionate reply to the money it is plans that the draft will include a ban for americans to adopt russian children the president is also commented on that saying that the biggest problem in this issue is that it's not in the cases of the abuse themselves but to the lack of a proper legal reaction from american off the. these to prevent them from reoccurring including a lack of serious punishments and the president is also reminded of a recent agreement reached between moscow and washington on adoption and he says that in reality due to the fact that each state has different legislations and america this ag

prison in guantanamo many of them were subject to torture the chief prosecutor at guantanamo in the george w. bush told me most of them were not terrorists and due to the extraordinary rendition program all kinds of people would end up there from different countries for different reasons stripped of their rights many human rights organizations have been vocal about a lawful practices at guantanamo and yet it's still open by the way despite president obama's pledges to close the prison. egypt's poised for more tension with the opposition promising to continue the fight against the new constitution if it's passed the official referendum result is due later on tuesday now the declaration was delayed because of fraud investigations and official tallies show over sixty percent voted yes the islamists a stronger egypt a scene of violent unrest and mounts rival rallies in weeks and weeks between both opponents and supporters of the new draft the opposition claims the document undermines democratic freedoms and slammed the referendum as being fundamentally illegitimate middle east history professo

we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing at our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing anti russian laws it's something absurd and we have a no way provoked such action russian lawmakers are currently working on what they say will be a proportionate response to the monkey ski act and part of the plan is to introduce a ban for americans to adopt russian children. this has been causing quite a lot of debate in russia and the president has commented on that saying that adoption and the problem with it is that citing the cases of abuse of russian children adopted by american foster parents of but the lack of a proper legal reaction from american authorities to prevent them from reoccurring including the lack of serious punishments in light of the n.t. government protests which have been continuing for around a year now the president was also asked a question implying that he's managed

know you have we have you on the show quite a bit for about for those who don't know you worked at guantanamo bay for seven years as a prosecutor there was the chief prosecutor from two thousand and five in two thousand to two thousand and seven in your resigned from the job during the bush administration because i was opposed to evidence of thing about torture and the political meddling in the trial so i didn't win the republican friends when i quit during the bush administration and then alienated the democrats when i criticize president obama i know you raise them feel some red flags but very few people seem to be concerned not just that this korean pop star got to perform for the president at this event but the people like you like thomas drake that like john kiriakou have spoken out about government wrongdoing and have been punished for it i mean why do you think so few people are outraged well i think the american public you know the government tends to keep them ignorant and uninformed and i think the example they're trying to say by persecuting people that speak to me is interesting l

. >>> also, senator lindsay graham saying the crazy bastards at guantanamo bay should not be brought to u.s. soil. he has more to say, too. senator graham is here coming up. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time r christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. >> greta: we're just back from new mexico and now more from the state's republican governor, susana martinez. senator harry reid said in 2010 when you were running his son was also running for governor in nevada. he said joa i don't know how ane of hispanic heritage could be a republican. >> i find that disappointing that anyone would think that we're not independent thinkers. i'm an independent thinker. i am a woman. i am a republican, and i think for myself, and i decide where i vote and h

international outcry if it all remains quiet in the us we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing at our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing anti russian laws it's something absurd and we have in no way provoked such action. i mean was to present putin's comments came during his first major news conference since returning to the kremlin we want you to watch those highlights of his q. and a session coming up again here on r.t. in a couple as time tonight. two years ago this week the arab spring merged into an easier before you could have predicted where it would lead including those who headed the uprising is a really good reports now on both left behind by the revolution. it began here in tunisia two years ago when a poverty stricken french vendor set himself on fire in an act of desperation some say he was a hero others say he was a drunkard with a history of psychological proble

international outcry but it all remains quiet in the us we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing at our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing anti russian laws it's something absurd and we have in no way provoked such action. and when it was president putin's comments came during his first major news conference since returning to the kremlin it was the highlights of that q. and a session later today here in r.t. . now in spain on thursday thousands attended a mock funeral march for the country's finances of a series of mass protests failed to stop a new batch of cuts that's been labeled the budget of hunger and misery include some thirty nine billion euros with extra austerity investment advisor patrick young says madrid's a burden is a result of years of government mistakes the truth is there is no money to pay all of these nurses and doctors there is no money for this love fish g

we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo. but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on their secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing out our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing anti-abortion laws it's something else heard them and we have a no way provoked such action. and we. meanwhile president vladimir putin has arrived in new delhi on an official visit to india the russian leader will meet with our country's prime minister and other officials to discuss cooperation between the two states talks are expected to focus primarily on boosting economic economic trade military and energy energy ties several agreements expected to come out of a trip within large contracts for the sale of military technology this is live near putin's first visit to the south asian area since his return to the kremlin that. last week europe witness yet another wave of protests in two of the country's worst affected by the continent's debt

in the us we've heard plenty of the promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there is no secret cia has anyone brought to account and they're pointing out is our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing an anti-abortion laws it's something else and we have a no way provoked such action and we the statement comes as part of a lot of reports and of your q. and a marathon with the media will be bringing you more highlights after twelve am g.m.t. . griese a little lie this week but ultimately if you felt like celebrating athens was given its first credit rating boost since the crisis began but a general strike over theory measures cut any merriment short on top of that four of the biggest greek banks have come out asking for a twenty seven billion euro bailout meanwhile in spain protesters held a mock funeral for the conference budget after the government approved drastic new cuts thousands of doctors policemen and public sector workers staged a near daily protest over. investment advisor

we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing at our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing anti-abortion laws it's something absurd and we have a no way provoked such action. i will say one comes as part of a lot of reports and of your q. and a marathon with the media will be bringing you more highlights later this hour . also hidden and dangerous after six months holed up and they quit or an embassy in london was the lower joyous sounds promises to release millions of confidential documents leaving no government in the world on a fact and that's in just a few minutes here r.t. . which is slow often enough and knows that to ride a horse you've got to catch it first. for him it's a daily routine that just softens of course on the island of bohol and at the heart of. his life on an isolated farm is about blue sky green grass and his horses work there sometimes it gets lonely here but ho

prison in guantanamo many of them were subject to torture the chief prosecutor at guantanamo under george w. bush told me most of them were not terrorists and due to the extraordinary rendition program all kinds of people would end up there from different countries for different reasons stripped of their rights many human rights organizations have been vocal about a lawful practices that kuantan of all and yet it's still open by the way despite president obama's pledges to close the prison president obama has adopted his own method of chasing down terrorists and sending that that is sending drones to kill suspected terrorists in the vast majority of cases they're killed not captured or tried garnishes you can thanks for bringing us up to speed on this there from washington d.c. the u.k. is going to prefer peace military presence in the gulf we talk about that soon on the way we've expert opinion on what might be behind britain's plans for strengthening its defense ties with the region's roils plus it's all downhill in to us weekly sports show ladies really a talent for a night to join tho

international outcry but it all remains quiet in the us we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing at our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing anti russian laws it's something absurd and we have a no way provoked such action. but a statement came as part of that the man who tunes end of a marathon with the media we'll bring you highlights in a cup of us time. amid the financial gloom greece saw a little light this week but ultimately a few felt like celebrating athens was given its first credit rating boost since the crisis began but a general strike over austerity measures cut any moment short on top of that for the biggest greek banks have asked for a twenty seven billion euro bailout meanwhile in spain protesters held an walk funeral for the country's budget of the government approved a drastic cuts thousands of doctors policemen in the public sector workers staged near daily pro

international outcry but it all remains quiet in the us we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there is no secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing at our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing anti-abortion laws it's something absurd and we have a no way provoked such action. well the statement comes as part of a lot of reports and of your q. and a marathon with the media when we bring you more on what else russian president had to say later this hour. the. divine power in action activate the shock was. i and when she says we need these we are under the control of those governing us if i were at the service of a space mafia i found that on that day the magnetic field of the sun will be for us to create to support the stuff. after the second coming and it'll be a beautiful place it will receive its paradoxical glory it will be a renewed world and it will be a beautiful place. full of the best. will stop this type of ammunition