just so while while stationed at the guantanamo bay prison you thought for a stand the imprisoned man abs that bedo with his. what is his treatment there typical far for prisoners at guantanamo bay at and at the time as a former marine as an army and army sergeant did did the treatment of the beta bother you at all well the treatment of detainees in guantanamo but bothered me as a baby was treated very different in the case where he was sent to air to report them up. from the airport it one time to the deal and he actually took custody of him we took him into a classified ok she was classified base most people in the media and called camp seven now. camp seven is totally. you know off limits to any other person known to detainees separates him from the other detainees and one of the strangest one of the things that really caught me in a briefing was they told us that they had to keep these fourteen high value detainees that arrived on september ninth two thousand and six one of them being observation of they had to keep them separate from the rest of seanie population because if they

also beatings in two thousand and six he was transferred to a special section of guantanamo where he has ben ever sent to take us through these dark twists and turns we're joined earlier by john kerry aka an axiom a officer who led the capture of fathers of ada and just that hickman an ex military intelligence officer who took custody of him and working together and hickman recently published a convenient terrorist an all encompassing account of the abos the beta affair. joseph thank you very much for joining us talking about your new book club star i want to get over commitment terrorist as a book because i don't rarely do we get this chance where we can kind of see both the capture. of a war on terror suspect especially a controversial one publicized one like. john what about his capture that anything in his capture wells with you and the events surrounding his capture typical for the war on terror no frankly they were not typical what was typical was we would break down the door of a place that we thought was an al qaeda safe house there would be one or two people inside they woul

majid khan and guled hassan duran are both currently held at guantanamo.alk about the significance of what the trump administration is doing with this report. it is highly significant to individual cases. back a littleo go bit of a reminder sells what has been released and what we might still be waiting on. december 2014 after many years of struggle with the obama administration over essentially reduction of classification review of the parts of the the 525they released page executive summary, which shows, among other things, that techniques that were applied were much worse than what was revealed in those torture memos under the bush administration. that it was applied against a lot more people than previously was discussed and that group of people included at least 26 people who were wrongly suspected of involvement in terrorism, basically, gives people "innocent" right? exceeded theniques legal authorization spelled out in those memos. and finally, really nothing productive came out of the torture and detention program, right? that there was not actiona

and here, the control is significantly diminished compared with the base at guantanamo. absolutely correct. but the point is there are other factors which you have heard. you know, here, that maybe suggests that maybe the fourth amendment should apply, >> but the united states hasn't established any jurisdiction. >> we do two things. we have a commission that draws the boundary and with mexico also repairs the culvert. and that's expensive. so we do two things with mexico there. and the fence is on either side of the culvert and it is a border. and all of those things tone together either are or are not enough to apply the fourth amendment. that's why i said add justice ginsburg's point and add the fact that mexico would like the fourth amendment applied. >> they would like it applied in this case, but they have never creeded any of their jurisdiction beyond the middle of the culvert. i understand the maintenance of the culvert is a joint maintenance. however the laws of the united states do not apply beyond the middle of the culvert. >> but the law of the united states

nation's leading advocates and argued cases before the united states supreme court and one was the guantanamo bay detainees. so neal, if you could talk about at experience and how that illuminates the rule of law. mr. katyal: thank you, sali, for being here. [applause] that was my first case and i came into the clinton administration and i was national security adviser to the justice department there and i loved it. and i thought my dream job would be national security adviser to the president. and i taught constitutional law and my students would tease me and say, you think whatever the president does is constitutional? you are such a hawk. -- i was watching cnn and i talk the ticker at the bottom and it said president issues military trial order for terrorists at guantanamo bay. and i thought that's interesting. we tried to do that after the embassy bombing and it was completely unconstitutional and how is he doing it. and i looked at the order and it had violations of everything you heard, no accountability, not an independent tribunal, president bush was hand-picking everyone and creating

it said president issues military tribunal for prisoners at guantanamo bay. i said that is interesting. we tried to do that after the embassy bombings and it was absolutely unconstitutional. how is he doing this? and i looked at this violation, and it had the same violations, no accountability, not an independent tribunal. the president was hand picking everyone for these tribunals, in essence creating a black hole in guantanamo. i thought to myself i should try to bring a case. i had never litigated a supreme court case before. i started working with the jag attorneys and be created a test case and i respected bin laden's driver. and i had argued the case in the district court, and for 10 months i was trying to meet him, bin laden's driver, or try to go to gitmo. and at first the department of justice said, oh, you have no security clearances. i said look me up, i have more clearances than you ever heard of. they said, yeah, it looks like you do. so you have no need to know. so you have the requisite level of clearance, but you do not need to do this. you ar

reporter: over the course of four months, she leaked diplomatic cables, battlefield reports, and guantanamo detainee profiles. more than 700,000 documents in all. the impact, explosive. >> it's the biggest leak in u.s. military history. >> there are names. there are operations. >> it is an attack on the international community. >> reporter: less than two months after the disclosures first made news, manning would be taken into custody from her barracks in iraq. did you think you would ever get caught? were you ready to pay the price? >> i'm not focused on consequences or what this means or what that means. i'm focused on the day to day. >> reporter: meanwhile the government scrambling to assess the actual damage manning's leaks had caused. do you consider chelsea manning a whistle-blower? >> no. >> reporter: rick leggitt was a high-ranking intelligence official at nsa at the time. >> she didn't go through any of the whistle-blowing channels that she had. she could have gone to the judge advocate general. she could have gone to her congressional representatives. they would have welcomed that

. >> the first 100 days of the trump presidency the executive orders to restore guantanamo into defund the sanctuary's cities. >> getting he is doing very well he is the party of cowards sanctuary's cities they need to be prosecuted of pearl communist approach terrorist and the supporter of castro's cuba and i write about this in the big agenda they say it was designed with the department of homeland security because they identify with the terrorist. that was 95 percent accurate. where muslims confused with terrorist by the leftist? maybe 300,000 words? that one sentence if you look at the sites because it does not exist. >> host: the next call from california. >> caller: i am so glad you're out there speaking and with those soft bigotry and blacks dictations they have tried to a light the inner-city and what is your analysis where do you see that coming with the agenda? >>. >> with the insiders of the indelible community -- angelico community not everything trump does will please them. and it is a fight to return the powers to the states to get washington off everybody's back. i don't

. >> this fellow who presumably will get appointed to the cia is also advocating guantanamo opening againre prisoners, and also torture. he seems to be fine with torture. so, it's all going in one direction, which is pretty rigid. it's another america that's going back to the dark side of mr. cheney, dick cheney. >> president obama was asked just on friday about edward snowden, as you probably already know. there's a big movement afoot, and i suspect it's going to grow in the coming weeks, to press president obama to pardon edward snowden before he leaves office. don't laugh, but there's going to be a huge pressure for him to do that before he leaves office. president obama was asked about this on friday, and this is a direct quote -- "i can't pardon somebody who hasn't gone before a court and presented themselves, so that's not something i would comment on at this point." that's president obama on friday when asked about whether he would pardon edward snowden. i guess the question is whether you think there is any chance that obama obama before he leaves the white house would pardon edwa

and then the detainees, the abu ghraib iraqi detainees, naked and being leashed up and in guantanamoyou are not part of that. but nevertheless you could be seen as part of this whole programme which, in some people's minds, really does denote... i can understand people thinking that way. and i accept there are people that think that way. you know? i don't know how to respond to it beyond that. i believe there are people who think that way. a lot of it comes from ignorance. some of it is based on the mistaken notion that we can somehow make the islamists who are attacking us like us. that if we just spent more time with the islamists, trying to convince them that... i mean, i spent years with khalid sheikh mohammed and other high—level, the 1a other terrorist that were captured, and it was clear talking to them that there was nothing we were going to do that would allow them to accept western democracy. in fact, they said western democracy and true shariah cannot coexist. general stanley mcchrystal, he said of his time in iraq, when you become the torturer, something happens. it has a

off to guantanamo what's what are your thoughts. you know it's very important to have independent impartial objective fact finding in such situations it's not enough to rely on standard denials that we hear from either the yemeni forces or u.a.e. or united states or in any country any country's government for that matter if we're seeing credible reports and you know i think the associated press. is a very credible organization that. knows how to conduct a good investigative journalism and if the sources that it has for information are not only. alleged former prisoners but also yemeni security for. officers etc you start to think that you know we're trying to leading the facts very well and. if the facts are are alleged are so explosive is this really is very important for the united states for you even for the yemeni forces and anybody else who may be involved implicitly or by complicity or in any way to open this up to independent fact finding where does this independent fact finding come from well it could come from the internati

they sang umbop which is the most streamed song of all times at guantanamo bay.playing that damn song. yesterday hanson told a tulsa radio station that justin bieber's music is like chlamydia for the ear. if anybody knows a thing or two about chlamydia, it's the members of a boy band. if you are getting chlamydia in your ear you are doing it all wrong. bieber is so upset about the comment that's he's vowing never to eat at the waffle house where the hansons work. coming up, johnny depp says despite his terrible finances. there is one thing he will never give up ever. is it hot broads. is it acting? i'll tell if you my final thoughts. the night cap is coming up. this lovely lady has a typical airline credit card. so she only earns double miles on purchases she makes from that airline. what'd you earn double miles on, please? ugh. that's unfortunate. there's a better option. the capital one venture card. with venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, everywhere, every day. not just airline purchases. seems like a no-brainer. what's in your wallet?

. >> juan: oh, guantanamo?na: get mel. >> kimberly: they wanted to do this but now they have an enormous increase in the amount of rape. a second in the world only tell part of southern africa, now you have all these crimes being committed there. they think no, no, don't punish the jihadists. let's give them the job fair. it makes no sense to me. how would you like it if you had no idea that the person you are working next to his like it, what your hobbies? getting a machete and decapitating someone. how about you? let's be in a book group together. people have no information, if someone is a sex offender, you have to register. who you are around. it's a huge problem. >> greg: imagine working with someone you don't know anybody g about. the iphone turns ten years old hi. who are these people? the energy conscious people among us say small actions can add up to something... humongous. a little thing here. a little thing there. starts to feel like a badge maybe millions can wear. who are all these caretakers, adv

northing missions over korea, cuba and guantanamo bay.he has become a expert on national security issues. she received the defense medal for distinguished service. as well as the cia directors awarded as well as the distinguished public service medal. thank you for joining us. the to her is pete, he is former chairman of the house intelligence committee. ande he partnered with jane practicing landmark legislation buried the first modernization of the intelligence community and 50 years. he is working on the investigative process with terrorism. heard is theill u.s. representative for the 23rd congressional district of texas. which stretches from san antonio to el paso and includes 800 miles of the u.s.-mexico border. he is also the vice chair of the maritime subcommittee. he is on the committee for homeland security and the chair for oversight. then immediately on my left is nicolas rasputin and he is the director of the national terrorism center. prior to becoming a director he served with the national security council staff as a special

restore guantÁnamo, relocatetega america's embassy, the xl pipeline, mixing amnesty and thu sanctuarycities. the biggest problem is the republican party. he doesn't have a problem on these issues. the sanctuary cities are criminal. it was started by the aclu at the center and defender of the aclu. they say that it was designed to prevent the department of homeland security but doing it job because the terrorists are people of color. that is that 95% accurate. why is there all of this, why are muslims confused? i've written maybe 300,000 words about terror. it doesn't exist. >> host: even with a slight disagreement, i'm so glad you are speaking. like speaker ryan who went around with the enterprise to get real solutions for the poor. with your analysis where do you see it coming in the agenda? >> guest: i don't know the special insight in the communi community. one thing i can tell you of my context with the religious right is there are a lot more intelligence than democrats or the media anchors give them credit for. not everything he does will ev please them but they understand that t

>> it means kill the terrorists, we've had a number of individuals have left guantÁnamo bay.ey've gone back to do radicalization programs in saudi arabia and we have found those programs have been very ineffective. we have not found a way to counter the ideology to get people to change their beliefs back to something that is nonthreatening. >> thank you for being with us. >> three suspects have been shot and killed but the situation is still intense. the country has been targeted by terrorists three times in as many months. more of our continuing live coveragefe is ahead. ved♪ wherever you are. >> the suspects have been confronted in shop by police within eight minutes of the first call. the suspects are wearing what looked like explosive best. these were later established to be hos hoaxes. >> hospital are moving quickly in crisis mode. dozens taken to the hospital for treatment. six people did not make it. greg is joining us from london. what is the latest? >> more details since we last spoke with you about a half an hour ago. first to that casualty toll, so far at least six

numerous congressional fact finding missions to hot spots including north korea, afghanistan and guantanamo bay. she has been recognized as an expert on security and public policy issues. she has received the medal for distinguished service, the cia seal medal and the distinguished public service medal. immediately next to jane is congressman pete hookstra, the chairman of the house committee on intelligence between 2004 and 2007 where he partnered with congresswoman jane harmon in 2004. the first modernization of the intelligence community in 50 years. chairman hookstra is currently working with the investigative project on terrorism. congressman will heard, a former undercover cia officer. he's the representative for the 23rd congressional district of texas which includes 800 miles of the u.s./mexico border in washington. on the committee for homemade land security and as a chairman of the information technology subcommittee on the oversight and government reform committee. and nicholas rasmussen, prior to becoming nctc director he served with the national security counsel staff as specia

they sang umbop which is the most streamed song of all times at guantanamo bay.ing that damn song. yesterday hanson told a tulsa radio station that justin bieber's music is like chlamydia for the ear. if anybody knows a thing or two about chlamydia, it's the members of a boy band. if you are getting chlamydia in your ear you are doing it all wrong. bieber is so upset about the comment that's he's vowing never to eat at the waffle house where the hansons work. coming up, johnny depp says despite his terrible finances. there is one thing he will never give up ever. is it hot broads. is it acting? i'll tell if you my final thoughts. the night cap is coming up. dear predictable, there's no other way to say this. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced. our senses awake. our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say...if you love something set it free. see you around, giulia listen up, heart disease.) you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression, don't get too comfortable. we're talki

escaped, some of them were killed some of them are spending the rest of their lives in retirement in guantanamo bay. some to go to different locations and we hear all of these affiliate's today's specific the al qaeda and the arabian peninsula and some people have one to assist with the establishment of al qaeda and iran and so forth. so after refinish 9/11 with that investigation with the invasion of iraq it is no longer an organization and it was a message. by the time osama bin modern was killed and places like north ought africa mimi the algeria they have that affiliate's that supports the narrative of the al qaeda even those who pledged allegiance to a zero al qaeda in the balkans. so was not spreading as a terrorist organization as much as a message but when osama bin laden was killed may 2nd, 2011. i was happy we got him also troubled that if we don't counter that message inherited them and ideology ideology, he will be more popular dead than alive in will be a martyr. in that same night there wrote my concern as the opposite in the new york times in the contacted me to say bin laden was

numerous congressional fact-finding missions to hot spots including north korea, afghanistan and guantanamo bay. she has has been recognized as a national expert on security and public policy issues has received the defense department's medal for distinguished service. the c.i.a. seal medal and the c.i.a. director's award and the national intelligence distinguished public service medal. immediately next to jane is congressman pete hoekstra. congressman hoekstra is the former chairman of the house permanent select committee on intelligence between 2004-2007 where he partnered with congresswoman jane harmon in passing landmark intelligence reform legislation in 2004. the first modernization of the intelligence community in 50 years. chairman hoekstra is currently working with the investigative project on terrorism as the shellman senior fellow. congressman will hurd, former undercover c.i.a. officer, entrepreneur and cybersecurity expert, will hurd is the u.s. representative for the 23rd congressional district of texas from san antonio to el paso and includes 800 miles of the u.s./mexico bord

even obama said i want to close guantanamo, i want to cut out on a gap afghanistan, he didn't do it.e to ask yourself who is one of the country. if you need a thorough examination of what's going on. i'm shocked at what the cia did and what brennan did, it seemed like he was very hostile. i think comey carried out. it was comey who influence the election, it was his declaration that the investigation on clinton had been dropped and then he reopened it three weeks or two weeks before. >> tucker: have you talked to president trump of the last year? >> i directed him in a film, wall street, money never sleeps. it was a deleted scene, not his fault. it was interesting to work with him for that day as an actor. he's still an actor. >> tucker: oliver stone, good to see a period of >> ed: we are in the fifth inning stretch here at nationals park, what is more baseball, what is more americana than the stretch. they're getting ready for the final stretch of the small game, we are going to have an update on the score, it is not looking good for the republicans right you totaled your brand new

. >> juan: oh, guantanamo? >> dana: gitmo. do this but now they have an enormous increase in the amount of rape. second in the world only to a part of southern africa, now you have all these crimes being committed there. they think no, no, don't punish the jihadists.de let's give them the job fair. it makes no sense to me. how would you like it if you had no idea that the person you are working next to his like it, what your hobbies? getting a machete and decapitating someone. how about you? let's be in a book group together.o people have no information, if someone is a sex offender, you have to register.d. who you are around. it's a huge problem. >> greg: imagine working with someone you don't know anything about.w the iphone turns ten years old today. has it really changed people's lives? that's up ahead. ♪ if you could book a flight, then add a hotel, or car, or activity in one place and save, where would you go? ♪ expedia gives you the world in your hand, so you can see more of it. ♪ expedia. the only bed smart enough to c

olsen also served as executive director of guantÁnamo task force special counsel director to the fbiand served as federal prosecutor for more than a decade. he's a graduate of university of virginia and harvard law school. adam kleine is robert m gates senior fellow center for new american security, widely published in areas of national security, surveillance, counterterrorism, law and policy. he was previously an attorney at international law firm. he was also worked on national security policy at rand corporation and the 9/11 public discourse project, the nonprofit successor to the 9/11 commission. mr. klein served as the law clerk for justice scalia, it is a graduate of northwestern university and columbia law school. elizabeth goiten codirects the brennan center for justice, liberty and national security program, new york university school of law. previously ms. goitein served as counsel to the yes, senator russell feingold, chairman of the constitution subcommittee on senate judiciary of this senate judiciary committee. ms. goitein also served as a trial attorney in the federal

. >> juan: oh, guantanamo? wanted to do this but now they have an enormous increase in the amount of rape. a second in the world only tell part of southern africa, now you have all these crimes being committed there. they think no, no, don't punish the jihadists. let's give them the job fair. it makes no sense to me. how would you like it if you had no idea that the person you are working next to his like it, what your hobbies? getting a machete and decapitating someone. how about you? let's be in a book group together. people have no information, if someone is a sex offender, you have to register. who you are around. it's a huge problem. >> greg: imagine working with someone you don't know anybody g about. the iphone turns ten years old today. has it really changed people's lives? that's up ahead. for mo ♪ >> juan: the iphone officially went on sale ten years ago today and now over 100 million americans are using them. has the iphone actually made people's lives better? if someone here who loves music, dr. got

brad: dozens of shots were fired in both directions before the officers killed the guantanamo now identified as 66-year-old james hodgkinson of belleville, shot behind home plate, where all of us, two or three or four of us, however many there were on the ground there, we would have been his next victims. brad: well, now we want to share the names of those who were victims here. representative steve scalise, of course, the house majority whip. we told you about. he himself put out he will be just fine. then the two capitol police officers, officer griner and officer daniel bailey. one of them is still hospitalized and will be okay. the other one we are told, we don't know which, treated and released. a lobbyist among them, matt mika. he is the most seriously injured. we are told he is in critical condition and suffered several gunshot wounds. zack barth, a staffer who was member of congress was shot and put out through social media he is just fine. briefing from the f.b.i. at 5:30. we will bring it to you life and bring you the latest information. jonathan: thank you. i want to give you a bi

even obama said i want to close guantanamo, cut down on afghanistan, i want to do this and that and he who is running the country? >> tucker: doesn't the president decide policys? >> you think so but i think we need a thorough examination of what is going on. i'm shocked at what the c.i.a. did and what brennan did. it seemed like he was very hostile to trump. very hostile. i think comey carried it out. it was comey if anybody influenced the election in my opinion. it was comey's declaration that the investigation on clinton had been dropped and then he reopened it three weeks or two weeks before. >> tucker: have you talked to president trump in the last year or so? >> no. i directed him in a film "wall street money never sleeps." a deleted scene. not his fault. it was interesting to work with him that day as an actor. he's still an actor. >> tucker: oliver stone. good to see you. >> thank you, tucker. >> ed: ahh, yes, we were in what they would call the fifth inning stretch here at nats park. what is more baseball? what is more americana than the stretch? you can hear everyone behind m

and so i actually met matt way back when he was working on gaugh guantanamo issues once upon a time. he became general counsel at nsa and went from there to run national security. as i think you'll hear a lot of 702 material. and so let me start by just asking you, on a scale of 1 to 10, how important is 702 to u.s. counterterrorism mission and to other national skuecurity progrs and what other interests? >> if i can channel the movies, i'll say 11, for those of you who have seen the movie. the amplifier goes to 11. i've had a lot of conversations about -- >> and it is -- you know, it is important i think to understand 702, to do a little bit of historical discussion, and the prior presentation talked a little bit about this as well. but the basic problem is -- has to do with the nature of fisa generally, the sort of landmark fisa statute from 1978. like in a lot of connects, the law passed in 1978 didn't keep up with changes in technology. so -- and the wear fisa works is really the scope of what you can do under fisa is defined by the definition of electronic surveillance. that is

. >> i harkin back to people were angry at president obama when he didn't close guantanamo bay the daye became president. that is not how this all works. i think the broad take away here is that this investigation is broadening. it was russia which is not a small thing but it was russia's involvement in the election and now according to the washington post we are talking about obstruction of justice. the investigation into obstruction of justice, not obstruction of justice as it relates to the president and now financial dealings as it relates to jared kushner. it is widening rather than narrowing. i'm not a lawyer so i can't tell you what that means. i can tell you politically speaking the broader it gets the more this is why people don't like politicians don't like special counsels. >> every time there is a special counsel in an investigation like this it may start off investigating something and then ends up being something else. it may start as collusion and comes down to obstruction of justice without people realizing. >> look what happened to trump. he went from being told by jam

reporter: over the course of four months, she leaked diplomatic cables, battlefield reports, and guantanamo >> it is an attack on the international community. >> reporter: less than two months after the disclosures first made news, manning would be taken into custody from her barracks in iraq. did you think you would ever get caught? were you ready to pay the price? >> i'm not focused on consequences or what this means or what that means. i'm focused on the day to day. >> reporter: meanwhile the government scrambling to assess the actual damage manning's leaks had caused. do you consider chelsea manning a whistle-blower? >> no. >> reporter: rick legit was a high-ranking intelligence official at nsa at the time. >> she didn't go through any of the whistle-blowing channels that she had. she could have gone to the judge advocate general. she could have gone to her congressional representatives. they would have welcomed that. >> you didn't think any of it was going to threaten national security? >> no. there are some higher-ups in the intelligence community who would argue, you're a low-level a

i actually met matt way back when he was working on guantanamo issues once of upon a time, but subsequent to that he became general counsel at nsa and went from there to run the national counterterrorism center which is fundamentally analytical but draws on a lot of sources of intelligence including, as i think you'll hear of 702 material. so, let me start by just asking you, on a scale of one to ten, -- 702ortant is 702 the u.s. counterterrorism missions and other national security interests, and what other interests. >> if i can channel the movie spinal tap, i will say 11, for those of you who have seen the movie. on a scale of one to ten, in all seriousness, it's very important. i go back to introductions for second. it's great to be here with you and we've had a lot of conversations about these issues over the years although as been mentioned, we didn't really caucus before. i'm a little nervous about what they will throw at me. we'll just have a conversation and it will be fine, don't worry about it. i did move around a bit in government and i had diverse experiences with 702. the tr

many leaders escaped afghanistan, some were killed, some are spending the rest of their life in guantanamo bay although we are able to go to different locations and set-up affiliates for the organization and hear about all that today. some people want to assist with the shabob and others want to assist in the establishment of al-qaeda and iraq and so forth. so after we finished 911 and the investigation of 9/11 and the invasion of iraq, al-qaeda is no more an organization. it became a message and that was a potent message. by the time bin laden was killed he had affiliates in places like yemen, north africa, algeria, down to molly. they had places in indonesia and southern philippines and even organizations that pledge allegiance to al-qaeda in the balkans and so forth. the organization was spreading but it wasn't spreading as a terrorist and i think if we don't counter the ideology, bin laden will be more poplar dead than alive. he will become a martyr. i wrote my concerns in a new york times because they contacted me saying can you write something, bin laden just killed, what do you thin

harken back to, i remember people, liberals were angry at president obama when he didn't close guantanamo bay, the day that he became president. it's like, things don't -- that's not how this all works. i think the broad takeaway here, don, is that this investigation is broadening, right? it was russia, which is not a small thing, but it was russia's involvement in the election now, now according to the "washington post," we're talking about obstruction of justice as it relates to -- obstruction of justice the investigation into obstruction of justice. not obstruction of justice, as it relates to the president. and now financial dealings, as it relates to jared kushner. it's widening rather than narrowing. but to my mother's disappointment, i'm not a lawyer, so i can't tell you what that means. i can tell you politically sp k speak, the broader >>> it's not being political -- >> and the president being investigated doesn't look good. >> every time there is a special counsel or investigation like this it may start off investigating something, and may end up something else. it may start off

struggle with how the constitution applies outside that physical border of the u.s., we saw it in the guantanamo case where they said it did apply. here i think there probably should be a strong rule that gives protection to people like this teenager who was killed in excessive use of deadly force. he should be given his fourth amendment rights and his family should be able to vindicate those. >> there's a lot of politics at play today as well. ari was talking about whether or not we hear on the travel ban issue. josh and erica, the political consequences here are significant. we know how the president reacted when the lower courts ruled against his travel ban. can we surmise if the supreme court decides to leave the same in place, the president will have a response obviously? >> the travel ban has been one of the most frustrating setbacks. something he promised over and over on the campaign trail, something that you see at rallies, invigorate supporters, and the wall and mexican border. something that frustrates him. every time this happened, you've seen tweets, people saying he is frustrated w

military prison in guantanamo bay has been charged in connection with terror attacks in his home country of internecia. the bombing at a bali resort killed 200 people 88 australians and seven american tourists. he's been held at the american prison in cuba for a decade. they say he was the leader of a terror group in indonesia. australian survivors and american victims continue for justice. >> it's hard to see it executed. >> he deserves to be brought to justice, if it's the death penalty, so be it. >> like to pull the trigger, make them happy. >> responsible for the murder of 202 people including 88 australians, should be prosecuted. should receive the severest of punishment and never be free. elizabeth: he's charged in a 2003 bombing outside a marriott hotel in jakarta. no trial date has been set quite yet. leland: security forces in saudi arabia say they have disrupted a major terror plot. a suicide bomber blew himself up during a police raid on a suspected hideout in mecca, the holiest city in islam, the saudi government says it was targeted for the grand mosque, the holiest site in

there are complaints you are creating a british guantanamo bay or something like that. i don't find them to be persuasive but those of that sort of thing shoot here about on the other side. craigslist took about community policing. timepent a lot of representing a city that has igh crime in -- -- there is a lot to be said about at-risk youth and the lack of services and the lack of education and opportunities. here in the u.s. i think at least the muslim community with it my district is very much integrated. very much a part of the quote that, you know, is the make-up of our very diverse culturally ammunity and they are seen as positive influence in our community. not a negative influence. they tend to want to work and be part of the solution with law enforcement and fbi officials. so in the case of san bernardino, that really comes out. i have lost constituents. i used to represent the city of san bernardino is a senator and it troubles me that there were not real signals out there from a young mother with a young baby couldyoung father, what we do? what is the lesson

you start putting terrorist-only wings, then there are complaints that you're creating a british guantanamo bay or something like that. i don't find those to be persuasive arguments, but those are the sorts of things you hear on the other side. >> let's talk about community policing. having coming from that environment, spent a lot of time representing a city that has high crime and numerous gangs and very at-risk youth. there is a lot to be said about at-risk youth and the lack of services and the lack of education and opportunities. here in the u.s., i think, at least the muslim community within my district is very much integrated, they're very much a part of the quilt that, you know, is the makeup of our very cultural community. they're seen as a positive influence in our community, not as a negative influence. they tend to want to work and be a part of the solution. with law enforcement and with fbi officials. so, in the case of san bernardino, that really comes lost- and i have constituents, i used to represent the city of san bernardino as a state senator. it really troubles me that t