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you have a whole group of guestworker programs that have several million people working on them. many of them in unskilled and low skilled jobs. there is no sign that we have a shortage of that kind in the united states. if you look at research in the census data, in almost every sector and in every job, the job is held by majority of us-born workers. that means, contrary to popular opinion, there are no jobs that u.s. workers will not do. there are no jobs that u.s. workers will not do. to me, that is an elitist and snobbish viewpoint. furthermore, in those jobs they have not had pay raises. the hospitality industry, the construction industry. they have not had pay raises in many years. according to census data. i am not an econ phd. i think when there is a shortage of something, the price is supposed to increase. it simply has not. we have needs. if you live in rural canada, like rural arkansas, you find a lot of doctors who come from overseas because we have needs that evidence shows we need to meet with highly skilled immigration. like computer scientists who are going to som

but he may be able to move more quickly on legal immigration issues pertaining to skilled guestworkerse is so local poor in washington. lots of attention was paid to illegal immigration, to the wall, to the southern border. that is part of the immigration, the broader immigration issue. what did he do on legal immigration? >> that's true. what he proposed to on illegal immigration was to ramp up deportation on the border wall, and it is likely he will need congress to sign off on both those things. but what he can do immediately, on the much lesser noted part, to crackdown on illegal immigration. he's nominated jeff sessions for attorney general. he is a longtime anti-immigration crusader who has gone after illegal immigrants a. he can use his prosecutorial authority from the justice department to go after companies that try to hire international workers as a way to root out fraud, but i think in the process of that, what legal immigration advocates fear is that it can create a chilling climate for people who want to do that, and make everyone fear the government will come after them i

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