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get a robust docket, a robust exchange, only after that we will come up with the proper regulatory gumbo, a decision that is palatable for us all. >> you talk about your service on the public service commission in south carolina. could you speak a little bit more about the difference between serving on the state level and the federal level, and what you have experience so far? >> the state level is closer to the people that we serve. there were front and center. we had evidentiary hearings. that is the biggest difference. when we had an issue or a rate hearing, we had an actual hearing where we took witnesses, including public witnesses. you gotta feel right then and there about what people were feeling, what direction they wanted you to go, how they were convincing. it was not just filing paper. sometimes it can be a little cold and exacting. we got to hear from the public, and that was the major difference of how the two agencies interacted. that was a culture shock for me, to be honest. >> do you feel a little isolated as an fcc commissioner? >> at first i did feel like i was on an is

people call us a gumbo.is really important that we get focused on the simple notion that diversity is a strength, not a queakness. it is not about -- weakness. it is not about taking fraur some and giving it to others. crime and the ability to feel safe personly and make sure your sons and daughters are safe on the streets of new orleans and make sure every kid gets a great education and and everybody has the right to work with dig any the place where you the opportunity to recognize american dream. bringing everybody together to find high common ground is a high purpose. tavis: i hear and i appreciate the overview but it begs the question, five years after katrina when you take office in a matter of days, where do you start? >> the first place you start is with the police department. we've had some very difficult trouble recently with our police department and many of the things stemming from what happened post katrina and rita. the department has to be redorganized and reoriented. the second thing is safet

action, and sometimes i think it's perilously close to astrology or voodoo or maybe mumbo-jumbo chicken gumbo, the kind with the stars in it. but technical analysis done by an expert can be every bit as rigorous as a fundamental analyst. you just have to understand the limits of what it's telling you. look, we know that at certain times far more important to stock prices than the prospects of the actual companies is what the big money guys, those big mutual funds, those big hedge funds, what they're doing with their shares. unfortunately, because of the secrecy of wall street, you can't just call up your broker and say, hey, is that fidelity or state street or t. rowe, legg mason, is that alliance or janus, is that who's buying or selling-s that who's knocking the stock down or taking it up? that's confidential information on wall street. and your broker would get fired. he would get fired if he revealed it to you. and that's really, really important because i think many of you think that when it comes to the rules of wall street you're using the official guide to wall street's ethics. not th

row exchange, then and only then after that we'll come up with, i like to call the proper regulatory gumbo in order to come up with a decision that is pal atable for us all. >> host: commissioner clyburn, two questions follow up from your answers to cecelia's questions, the public, --. >> guest: service commission. >> host: in south carolina. >> guest: regulator. >> host: could you speak a little bit more about the difference between serving on the state level and the federal level and what you've experienced so far? >> guest: i will say to you that the state level we're closer to the people that we serve. that they were front and center. we had evidentiary hearings. that is the biggest difference, so when we had, an issue, docket or rate hearing or what have you, we had an actual hearing where we took witnesses, including public witnesses, and, so you got, right then and there about what people were feeling. you know what they were sensing. what direction they wanted you to go. how they were condensing you. it wasn't just a filing a paper filing. sometimes from our perspective because i w