for policy recommendations by the end of january, but he's sure to run into opposition from guns owners' groups who want no changingno tightening of gun law. customers at sharpshooters firing range outside of washington, d.c., say, they're keeping a close eye on gun control talks taking place inside the beltway. >> i don't think restricting, you know, people's second amendment rights would be the solution here. >> cbs news has learned the white house is looking at several new laws including reinstating the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. >> we're not going to get caught up in the notion unless we can do everything, we're going to do nothing. it's critically important we act. >> today the vice president meets with representatives of guns owners groups including the national rifle association. >> i don't want any part of my freedom taken away, the freedom to own whatever firearm i choose, how many rounds i want to keep, it's my freedom. >> vice president biden believes new laws can make it through congress because the massacre in newtown, connecticut, changed the political land c.a.p.e.

. >> vice president joe biden met with gun owner groups today. including n-r-a representataives as head of president barrak obama's task force to fight gun violence. already biden is announcing the group will have some recommendations for the president by tuesday. it's expected that universal background checks for all gun owners could be in the mix. the n-r-a meantime. says it's disappointed with the meeting. an evangelical pastor chosen to give the benediction at president obama's inaugaration later this month is backing out. that's because what he said in an old sermon has come back to haunt him. reverand. louie giglio is being criticized for a sermon he gave on homosexuality in the '90's. he called same-sex relationships sinful -- and an abomination. he was originally chosen because of his work to end human trafficking. >> jacqueline: temperatures are already dropping off. 20's and 30's. frosty conditions for tomorrow and saturday. some changes over the next several days. here is what is going to look like with 27 in the santa rosa. 29 through

. >> after talking to gun owner groups, vice president biden met with video game makers though his expectations seemed equally low. >> there's no silver bullet, one of my friends said no seatbelt that you can put on to assure we will not be in this circumstance again. >> in fact, he said it's not even clear violent video games are the most problem, the though the most violent are the best thrillers. >> he has a desire to do something or some things even though they don't solve the entire problem. >> i've never seen anything that have shocked the consciousness of the american people like 16, 17-year-old kids being riddeled with bullets in the classroom in a neighborhood that was considered to be immune to this kind of bearior. >> meanwhile -- behavior. >> meanwhiles nra proposes is a ban. >> we had a decade for on guns and it had no impact. >> he admitted was impractical. >> every gun purchased can only be fired by the person who purchased it. >> that technology exists but it's extremely expensive. >> so expensive no one really expects mr. biden will recommend it tuesday, to the put but he will

charge with proposals and the national rifles association will be getting together with other gun owner groups. >>> they will not take part and wal-mart was invited to attend tomorrow. wal-mart will not be there due to a schedule willing project. and mike thompson is holding a prevention foreman and they are taking the task force and they are there to hear ideas about what to it be done. that will be held at vallejo city hall from 7:00 to 8:30. the last witness will take the stand about the colorado movie rampage. coming up, what a detective is saying about the dedecoratives -- detectives strange behavior after the arrest. >>> he was arrested outside his home. williams appeared for reckless driving. according to police williams is supposed to appear in court on a misdemeanor battery charge. >>> judgment has arrived for barry bonds. the home run king has been selected for the hall of fame. some 600 baseball riders will go and many have gone to a case tied to steer road scandal. every giant is looking to be on the first ballot. >> he should wait his turn and when it's right they will let him in.

. >>> gun rights advocates and owners will make their case as vice president joe biden's task force looks to curb gun violence in the country. the nra, other gun owner groups and sportsmen will make their way to the white house this morning. yesterday the task force met with victims' groups and gun-control supporters who say they were encouraged by the conversation. right is biden says the task force will use the discussion to take quick action. >> the president is going to act. there are executive orders, executive action that can be taken. we haven't decided what that is yet. >> representatives from walmart will also join the talks. they originally said they could not attend. the task force hopes to put forth a series of proposals in about a month. >>> president obama is busy forming his cabinet for his second term. he could announce as early as today his choice for treasury secretary. the president expected to nominate jack lew to fill that key post. lew is currently the white house chief of staff. he's also served as white house budget director for presidents obama and clinton. if he's confirmed, he would succeed timothy geithner at the treasury depart

gun violence. he is meeting with victim groups and gun safety organizations. tomorrow he will meet with the national rifle association and other gun owner groups. president obama wants biden to hear about those policy plans by the end of the month e. >>> the obama administration says when american troops pull out of afghanistan at the end of next year, the u.s. could pull out all of them. white house officials say they are considering the so-called zero option which would bring home every u.s. soldier in the country despite the pentagon's view that some troops need to stay to keep al qaeda at bay. >>> for the continental united states, 2012 was the hottest on record. according to government scientists, the average temperature was 55.3 degrees. that broke the record set back in 1998 by one degree. >> of course it doesn't apply to today because it was chilly. >> it was chilly this morning. no frost on my window yet but -- >> but we'll see temperatures struggling to get out of the 40s tomorrow maybe snow down to 1500 feet. so big changes around the bay area for today. a lot of clouds beginning to move in. we have some patchy, dense fog ear

gun violence but gun groups say they're ready for a very tough fight. danielle nottingham is at the white house with more. >> reporter: vice president joe biden is sitting down with gun owner groups, including the national rifle association. but finding common ground could be difficult. the nra's president calls these white house meetings disingenuous. >> i think they're going to do everything they can to strip americans of their right to bare arms. >> reporter: the obama administration says they're looking for ways to stop mass shootings like the massacre in newtown, connecticut. the vice. and his task force are talking to a range of groups, from victims of gun violence to major gun sellers like wal-mart and even hollywood. cbs news has learned president owe bam pa will likely reveal -- obama will likely reveal new ideas to introduce to cut down gun violence. the white house could also recommend universal background checks for gun buyers and a national gun database. many members of congress oppose the measures, but the vice president says the president may be able to bypass congress and use an executive order. mike collins works at a virginia gun shop. he says all the tal

gun safety groups. tomorrow sports men and gun owner groups get to have their say.an lothian is live from washington this morning. nice to see you, dan. so even though they've agreed to send a representative, the nra doesn't sound like they are prepared to actively participate. >> that's right. they are showing up because they have been invited and it appears that they simply want to listen to what it is that this group that the president has instructed to go out there and try to put together these policy proposals, they want to hear what the group has to say. a spokesman saying, we are sending a rep to hear what they have to say. very short statement from the nra. but essentially the nra is skeptical of a lot of what's being pushed out there by the white house and lawmakers up on capitol hill. they say instead of focussing on guns and gun owners, that all of these lawmakers need to be focused on issues such as mental health, need to focus on things like violent video games. one of the things that the nra has also suggested is putting armed guards at all of the scho

a task force on gun violence, headed by vice president biden, will meet with victim groups and gun control advocates today. and gun owners groups on thursday. >> it's not a problem that can be solved by any specific action. it encompasses mental health, education, as well as access to guns. >> reporter: with the one-month anniversary of the shooting at newtown, connecticut, approaching, washington is pressured to take immediate action. gabby giffords who was injured by a gunman two years ago, is taking a prominent role in the gun debate. giffords and her husband have pushed for congressional action, on mental health, high-capacity gun magazines and background checks to purchase a gun. >> i bought a gun at walmart recently. and i got a background check. >> reporter: the shock over the elementary school shooting has led many communities to offer gun buyback programs. >> if we can prevent one child, one innocent bystander from being the victim of a random accident, or the target of an unstable person, it will be well worth our time and effort. >> reporter: but at the same time, gun stores say their merchandise is flying off

. >> vice president biden met with gun owner groups today. including n-r-a representataives. he's heading up the president's task force to fight gun violence. and they're moving fast. biden says they'll have some recommendations for the president by tuesday. it's expected that universal background checks for all gun owners could be in the mix. the n-r-a meantime. says it's disappointed with the meeting. >> this anti-terrorist safety feature will cost $31 million. and the budget is only $8 million. caltran that it believes that this is a critical component for its safety and it is important. here is a breakdown of the $31 million. $15.7 million, $3.2 million for the telecommunications system. the chair of the toll of 40 committee and his team want to meet with the golden gate district to try to figure out why the new bay bridge is so much higher. he believes that the c h p should a absorb some of this. because of this requested amount is so much more than the budgeted amount we feel that it is appropriate to investigate further tortola payers' money is well spent. that is comin

this afternoon it's representatives from gun owners groups, including the nra. tonight the entertainment industry weighs in on how violence in the media may be influencing the problem. when it is all said and done biden acknowledges his boss is prepared to use the powers of the presidency to enact his own comprehensive gun control plan. >> the president is going to act. there are executive orders, executive action that can be taken. we have not decided what that is yet. we are compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members, as well as legislative action we believe is required. >> white house correspondent dan lothian is live in washington. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> there is a lot going on behind the scenes. let's talk about this executive action. what is the president planning to do? >> as you heard the vice president say, they are not laying out details as to what it is the president would do in order to move forward on some gun measures. what's clear here is the political environment in washington, we'

. >> reporter: today the vice president meets with representatives of gun owner groups including the national rifle association. the nra believes any restrictions on guns and ammo violate the constitution. >> i don't want any part of my freedom taken away. >> reporter: vice president joe biden says he believes new laws can make it through congress because the massacre in newtown, connecticut changed the political landscape here in washington. >> i don't think anything has touched the heart of the american people so profoundly as seeing those young children not only being shot but riddled with bullets. >> reporter: still, skeptics like the folks at sharpshooters says new gun laws won't prevent criminals from getting weapons. >> you can pass laws until you're blue in the face. it won't matter. >> reporter: but the vice president says he and president obama are determined to act. susan mcginnis, cbs news, washington. >>> the berkeley school district will hire consultants to reexamine safety procedures in the event of a gunman on campus. the move comes in the wake of the school shooting i

gun violence commission and he has a full and packed schedule today. this morning he meets with sportsmen and wildlife groups. this afternoon it's representatives from gun owners groups, including the nra. tonight the entertainment industry weighs in. biden says all ideas are welcomed, but the president already has a plan. >> the president is going to act. there are executive orders, action that can be taken. we haven't decided what that is yet. we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and all the rest of the cabinet members. as well as legislative action. >> biden's commission is charged with making recommendations for new gun control laws to the president by the end of this month. >>> what is in hillary clinton's future once she leaves her post as secretary of state? once again she has left everyone guessing. in her first public appearance on wednesday since returning from her illness, she described her final days at the state department as bitter sweet. when a reporter asked if she's heading into retirement, this is what she said. >> i don't know if that's a word i would use. but certainly stepping off the very fast track for a little wh

yesterday the vice president met with representatives from the entertainment industry and gun owners groups. the president of the national rifle association says he's disappointed with the meeting. >> they knew going into this meeting what the president's position on the so-called assault weapon ban is. it's the same he's taken in years. these are not new positions. the vice president said we do this with an open mind. at the meeting he said no we made up our mind on that. >> the nra says it will not allow quote law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. >>> two families are suing oikos university over last years deadly shooting rampage in oakland. seven people died when suspected gunman juan koa opened fire. the lawsuit was filed in alameda county yesterday by families of two of the victims. the school should have known he was to pose a serious danger to students because of the disagreements he had with the university staff beforehand. >>> school safety is now a big issue at bay area schools following the deadly shooting in newtown, connecticut. just yesterda

victims groups and gun safety organizations to discuss gun control policy plans in the wake of the newtown school shooting. tomorrow biden will meet with the national rifle association and other gun owner groups. president obama wants biden to hear about the policy plans by the end of the month. >>> the obama administration says when american troops pull out of afghanistan at the end of the neck year, the u.s. could pull out all of them. white house officials say they are considering the so-called zero option which would bring home every u.s. soldier. this despite the pentagon's view that some troops need to stay to keep a lid on al qaeda. >>> 4:37 now. for the continental united states, 2012 was the hottest year on record. that's according to government scientists. average temperature was 55.3 degrees. that broke the old record set in 1998 by one degree. but if you wake up this morning, you would never know. 37 degrees out in the east bay. >> i know. it's chilly, lawrence. >> now we have a chance of some snow maybe down to 1500 feet by tomorrow morning. so yeah, we have some big chance coming our way. even a chance of rain developing outside today. here's the latest on our satellite i

the problem for some it's taking away all guns for others it's more guns for example in ohio gun owners group says that the solution should be to arm all teachers the group announced it will launch what's called the armed teacher training program which instructs teachers and school staff on how to shoot firearms in the classroom and if you think that program won't gain any ground well you're already a step behind as of yesterday it attracted more than six hundred applicants from fifteen different states are more guns really the solution or rather should be having a discussion on the root causes of why america is so unique and it's at the demick of violence to talk about just that i'm joined now by dr james gilligan clinical professor of psychiatry at new york university and author of the book series violence reflections on a national epidemic and most recently why some politicians are more dangerous than others thank you so much for coming on james. well thanks for inviting me so you've written a series of books on this very topic even researching this for a very long time over the course of

meet this week with people on both sides of the gun debate, victims groups and gun safety organizations today and the national rifle association and gun ownerroups on thursday. >> it is not a problem that can be solved by any specific action. it is a problem that encompasses issues of mental health, education, as well as access to guns. >> with the anniversary of the elementary school shooting fast approaching, washington, dc, is facing pressure to take action. former congresswoman gabrielle giffords is taking a prominent role in the debate. she and her husband have launched an effort to push congressional action on questions of mental health, high capacity gun magazines, and background checks on purchases of a gun. >> i bought a gun at walmart. i went through a background check. why can't we make it more difficult for criminals and mentally ihl to get guns? >> the shock over the elementary school shooting led many communities to offer gun "buy back" programs. >> if we can prevent one child from being the victim of a random accident or for get of an unstable person it is well worth our time and effort. >> at the same time, gun stores say th

the vice president also meet tomorrow with the national rifle association and other gun owner groups.ngs on with our representatives from the video game and entertainment industries are also plans. this is all part of the panel president obama created following the sandy hook elementary shooting. new york mayor michael bloomberg, a strong supporter of tighter gun laws, is advising the vice president. >> secretary of state hillary clinton is expected to testify later this month on the deadly september 11th of salt and libya. clinton has been scheduled to testify last month but she fell during an illness and suffered a concussion. if she was recently hospitalized for a blood clot. clinton returned to work on monday. she had promised to appear before the senate and the house foreign affairs panel before stepping down from her job. president obama has nominated senator john kerry to replace her. >> still ahead on kron 4 morning news. a new iphone may be in the works and it is likely " cheaper " than the one you already have. it is incredible on video. a great white shark sighting off the

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also, coming up in a just a bit we'll be joined by lars larson how gun owners and gun groups may feel's plan for stricter gun laws. i mean, now, many folks are saying, look, a lot of the executive actions, reasonable, noncontroversial. i'll he ask lars whether that's true. is there anything he can get behind? because he seems to have a good window into how the gun rights groups feel. so we will speak with him in just a bit. and in the middle of this gun debate comes a new question about the cultural fallout of the gun crackdown effort after two six-year-old boys were suspended from elementary school for playing a game as old as this country. trace gallagher has that story, trace. >> reporter: megyn, the second time in recent week that young boys in maryland have been kicked out of school for having imagery guns and using them, as you saw the fingers. in this case, two six-year-old guns of bringing imagery guns, as known as their hands, into the school and on the playground, a game of cops and robbers became a national story, the boys had been suspended and the problem is we don't know

riddled with bullet holes in their classroom. >> biden tried to appeal to the gun rights group saying that he suicide a gun owner. he laid out ideas opposed by the group, including universal background checks not just at gun shows but all private sellers. gabby giffords are lobbying congress to enblame new rules. >> i went through a background check. why can't we make it more difficult for criminals and mentally ill to get guns. >> the head of the n.r.le a. accused the white house of using the newtown tragedy of stripping gun owners of their rights. tonight the vice president sits down with officials from the entertainment industry.ing live, rebecca cooper. >> virginia voters seem to agree with both sides. a poll found 2/3 supported putting armed police officers in schools. a majority also supports an assault weapons ban saying the weapons make the nation more dangerous. half of virginiaians feel that guns protect citizens. >> president obama's cabinet shuffle continued today when he nominated jack lew for treasury secretary. he will have to hit the ground running. the nation is society to hit the borrowing limi

about 30 meant, vice president joe biden will host gun rights' owners and advocates as part of his gun control task force. the nra has other gun owner groups and sportsmen all headed to the white house. >>> walmart, the nation's largest gun retailer will attend a separate hearing with attorney joan eric holder. yesterday the task force met with victims groups and gun control supporters who say that they were encouraged by the conversation the task force is expected to make its recommendations in about a month. >>> new this morning, a major announcement about the presidential cabinet. this afternoon, president obama will nominate jack lew secede timothy geithner as secretary. he's currently the white house chief of staff and budget director. he will be nominated at 1:30 this afternoon and we'll stream it live on nbcwashington.com. don't miss it. >>> talk about funny money, cash may look loopy if lew is confirmed. doesn't this look like a scribble? it's his signature. the treasury secretary's signature appears on all printed money so these loops may pop up on fives, tens and 20's. outgoing treasury secretary timothy geithner's signature impr

meets this week with people on both sides of the gun debate: victims groups and gun safety organizations today and the national rifle association and gun owner groups on thursday. >> it is not a problem that can be solved by any specific action but includes mental health issues, education, as well as access to guns. >> with the one month anniversary of the sandy hook elementary school approaching washington is facing pressure to take meanful action. former congressman gabrielle giffords who was badly injured two years ago is taking a prominent roam. she and her husband have launched an effort to push action on questions of mental health, high capacity gun magazines and background checks on purchases. >> i bought a gun at wall heart and i went through a back ground check. why can't we make it more difficult for criminals and mentally ill to get guns. >> the shock over the elementary school shootings is leading to gun "buy back" programs. >> if we can prevent one innocent child being the victim of an accident or the target of unstable person it is well worth our time. at the same time, gun stores say their merchandise is flying off the shelves

today he will be meeting with gun owner's groups, hunters and also representatives from the entertainmentustry. >>> a flasher is on the loose on the peninsular. janine de la vega just spoke with police. here is more. >> reporter: police tell me this is an isolated incident which they don't believe has anything to do with other attacks on women. police say at 11:00 a woman was sitting in a car and looked up and saw a man standing next to the window with his pants down touching himself and staring at her. she called 911 and police were unable to locate him. >> it is frightening. there is a lot of odd people out here and i stay here once a month and it makes me want to be more aware of my surroundings. >> well, there has not been any indecent exposure cases in reason months and there are cases of women being sexually assaulted by men. they were jocking downtown and in another case a woman in her home found a man trying to attack her. you can see california avenue in the business district, police say this case is unrelated to the other attacks of the woman jogging and in the woman's home. the

series of meetings not only with gun safety advocates but also the rifle association and other gun owner groupseeting kicks off in just a couple of hours. the president wants vice- president joseph biden to come up with policy proposals later this month and president barack obama has vowed to move swiftly and they are including legislative proposals and executive action. mayor bloomberg is advising the president. >> all of us know vice- president joseph biden is not a shrinking violate particularly when it comes to crime and the gun problem in this country and the number of murders. >> reporter: vice-president joseph biden is not just targeting gun safety and groups, he wants to make sure they are involved as well. >> wal-mart was invited to attend assessing -- a session tomorrow but wal-mart will not be there due to a schedule willing conflict. -- scheduling conflict. >>> thompson is part of the prevention task force. he said he wants to hear ideas about what can be done to make communities safer. it will be held from 7:00 to 8:30. people in north hayward are more visible these days. it is an

week that the president might issue an exive order to restrict guns created an out cry among gun owners groups. it wouldn't be the first time the president has used an executive. >> reporter: and it speaks to it when people say -- you shake your head and say i covered that. in 1989 the school shooting in stockton california that really started the california push in the federal push to ban cerna assault weapons, that led to an executive order by the first president bush to ban the import of cerna assault weapons, it was seven expanded ronde in 1998 with an order as well by the president bill clinton who also used the order. the question though is can you use the order to do anything wide ranging? i would say my review of federal gun you laws i don't see the legal under pinning. i'm no legal expert but i don't see the under pinning for the administration to do much more than nibble around the edges, maybe with background checks, when you look at the system in the 1993 brady law but not much more. in terms of -- basically forcing registration and more it may not be on secure legal ground to use

other groups that have been blamed for encouraging gun use are also in washington this week. the nra and other gun owners' groups are meeting with joe biden tomorrow. and the video game and entertainment industries are sending representatives. joe biden's series of meetings dick off with gun safety -- kick off with gun safety meetths -- meetings. some say the last month attack in connecticut has been paramount about this. >> we're still getting phone calls off the hook and still having conversations with new people on capitol hill. i'm saying this is very encouraging. >> reporter: the president wants joe biden and the panel to come up with legislation proposals for gun safety and he expects the full report from the vice president in just three weeks. >>> all right. thank you. it's 7:16. tonight in vallejo, mike thompson is holding a gun violence prevention chairman -- program. he says the goal of tonight's forum is to hear ideas about what can be done to make our communities safer. the forum will be held at vallejo city hall from 7:00 to 8:30. >>> this saturday, the san of connecticut will connect violen

gun laws already on the book. this accord together vice president joe biden. full schedule today for the vice president. this morning he's going to meet with sportsman, wildlife groups, representatives of gun ownersand tonight he sits down with entertainment industry executives. the vice president says the president already has a plan in place. >> the president is going to act, there are executive order, executive action that can be taken. we can't decide what that is yet. but we're compiling it all with the help of attorney general, and all of the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action we believe was require. the vice president's commission will make its recommendations for new gun control laws by the end of the month. i want to get right to representative joseph crawly, a democrat of new york. vice chair of the democratic caucus. jay thomas joins us as well, actor and comedian. i want to focus on the entertainment industry. i thought it was interesting that we know the vice president will be meeting with executives of the entertainment industry. hollywood stars weighed in demanding a plan. here's a clip of what they call demand a plan. >> media conglomerates compete with each

gun owners. and he hopes and the vice president hopes that these organizations will bring constructive ideas to the table. >> vice president biden will meet with the nra and other gun owner's groups tomorrow. president obama thes the new policy proposals on his desk by the end of the month. >> and. >>> the labor secretary is leaving the obama administration n. an e-mail message, she submitted her resignation let or wednesday afternoon and made the decision to leave after discussing it with her family and close friends. >>> the white house chief of staff is expected to replace treasury secretary tim geithner. white house officials have not confirmed it but sources are saying that president obama will choose this man, jack lou, to lead the treasury department. an announcement could come by the end of the week. he previously led the office of management and budget and oversaw international economic issues at the state department. >>> more details are coming in now about the presidential inauguration. the inaugural poet is richard blanco. he's the gay son of cuban american exiles whose work explores his family's experiences and in a new country. the inauguration is monday january 21s

and it's against that backdrop that the vice president met with nra and other gun owner groups today. judging by the nra's response, they're scared. in a statement, the group said we were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the second amendment. this administration continues to insist on pushing failed solutions to our nation's most pressing problems. since when is gun legislation a failed solution to a gun problem. an they're not the only ones nervous about the power the white house has in this fight. senator lindsey graham tweeted gun control by executive order could be a power grab. that won't go down well with congress or the american people. a power grab? no, it's common sense solutions. but don't tell that to rush limbaugh. he's going to the old playbook of fear. >> what could they -- >> a bunch of liberal democrats worried about guns, talking about using executive orders. what could it possibly be about? a gun grab. >>> make no mistake, they are planning a gun grab. >> this isn't a

. >> a day after talks with the gun owner groups that produced a little meeting of the mind, vice presidentet with video game makers though the expectation seemed equally low. >> there is no silver bullet. no seat belt that you can put on to assure that you will not be in this circumstance again. >> biden said it's not clear that violent video games are part of the pron, the most violent are often the best sellers. newtown tragedy seized the administration with the desire to do something or some things even if they don't solve the entire problem. >> i never have quite seen anything as shocked the conscious of the american people like six and 7-year-old kids riddled with bullets in classroom, neighborhood, in an area that was considered to be immune to this behavior. >> still, biden spent almost all his time talking about the diverse range of groups he met with and little about the specific proposals. he says there is a lot of research and material in his words "lying around." on fox news channel "america live" nra lobbyists chris cox said the vice president wasn't interested in listening in

now, back at the white house vice president biden sat down today with hunters sportsmen and gun owner's groups including the nra the real victims in all of this gun violence, as part of his fact-finding mission for the president. before the doors closed, he told reporter what's heard from gun control groups and law enforcement thus far. >> there is a surprising -- so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks. not just the closed gun show loophole but total universal background checks. including private sales. there's also a good deal of talk about gun safety. and what responsibility goes along with gun ownership. i've never quite heard as much talk about the need to do something about high-capacity magazines as i've heard spontaneously from every group that we've met with so far. >> john: not every group. not the nra. after today's meeting with mr. biden, the nra released a statement that reads in part... >> john: which is something no one is trying to do at all ever. if the nra supporters in congress get in line, toughening gun laws on the federal le

. >> reporter: today the vice president meets with representatives of gun owners groups.e nra believes any restrictions violates the constitution. >> i don't want any part of my freedom taken away. >> reporter: vice president biden says he believes new laws can make it through congress because newtown, connecticut changed the political landscape here in washington, d.c. >> touch the heart of the american people so profoundly. the young children not only being shot, but rittled with bullets. >> reporter: still skeptics say new gun laws won't prevent criminals from getting their hands on dangerous weapons. >> it's not going to matter. >> reporter: but the vice president says he and president barack obama are determined to act. >> the vice president also said he is talking to justice department officials to see what steps the president might be able to take through connective orders instead of getting congress to pass new laws. >> and now the gun control debate is not just happening between capitol hill and the white house, in the 2013 maryland general assembly, the governor

officials are looking into whether that lead role in the cash. >> vice president joe biden met with gun owner groupse to fight gun violence. >> is also a dousing the group will have some recommendations for the president by tuesday. >> is expected that universal background checks for all gun owners could be in the mix. >> the nra meantime says, a disappointed with the meeting. >> high school student in central california is accused of shooting at a couple of his classmates. deputies say, the boy targeted students he felt had bullied him. >> they say the 16 year-old uses by the shotgun to critically injured one of the students yesterday's. >> hired at others before being talked into giving up the gun. >> a recently published reports, suggest that the possibility that the entire san andres fault could be however, as kron fours got a great show was, not all scientists agree with the study. >> we would get a big one and how that would be. according to a new study published wednesday on and on my report in the journal nature fault lines with what type is called creeping segments have long been known not

this is the list of gun owner groups and gun advocacy groups that vice president biden met with todaythis ongoing series of meetings he's having toward producing a list of recommendations that we now know will come next week. the national rifle association is fourth there on the list. other than the national shooting sports foundation, which has the distinction of being headquartered in newtown, connecticut where that massive school shooting was last month, none of these other groups are really seen as all that influential in the field or even all that well known. but there are other gun advocacy groups in the country besides the nra, who were not at that meeting today. take, for example, from the '08 presidential election. the nra in that election endorsed john mccain for president, saying he had steadfastly voted against every gun and ammunition ban in congress. that was the nra endorsement of mccain for president in '08. at the same time the gun owners of america, which is a competing organization, they compete with the nra. they were denouncing john mccain as a liberal gun grabber

tomorrow he's planning to talk to members of the national rifle association and gun owner groups. ama administration's task force on gun violence in the wake of the deadly school shooting at sandy hook elementary that happened in newtown, connecticut. >> the supreme court will hear arguments on whether police can force suspected drunk drivers to have blood drawn. at issue is whether a blood test is an unreasonable search band by the fourth amendment. police officers should have to get search warrants before forcing a suspect to undergo a blood test. former new mexico governor bill richardson is laying out the mission for the humanitarian delegation including eric schmidt. the group toured the grand people's study house today. he's seeking a moratorium on missile launches and nuclear testing. he's pushing for more open testing in the country. he has not spoken publically about the trip to north korea. >> apple is working on a less expensive version of the iphone. the wall street journal reporting apple has been thinking about it for some time now. but they are actually now acting on

yesterday the vice president met with representatives from the entertainment industry and from gun owner groups. the president of the national rifle association says he left that meeting disappointed. >> they knew going into this meeting what the president's position on the so-called assault weapon ban is. it's the same position he's taken for years. the vice president said we do this with an open mind. at the meeting we said we have already made up our mind on that. >> the nra says it will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. gun owners along with supporters of gun control packed a meeting in santa rosa. we'll tell you how their comments could influence gun policy legislation on capitol hill. >>> a former death row inmate accused of killing his own mother is due in court this afternoon. 70-year-old dennis has admitted to killing 90-year-old nelli turner in their vallejo home. he's a convicted killer first sentenced to death in 1966 for murdering two teenage girls but his sentence was changed to life in prison when california briefly eliminated the

right now, they're holding what could be a showdown meeting with the nra and other gun owner groups. it comes after the nra's president lashed out at president obama in a new internet radio interview. >> i think they're being disingenuous. i think they have seen this as an opportunity to go after the 2nd amendment which they have wanted to do for years. >>> also breaking, the atlantic pastor to deliver the benediction at president obama's second term inauguration is announcing to withdraw from the ceremony amid questions of an anti-gay sermon he gave in the mid-'90s. >> if you look at the counsel of the word of the god, you come quickly to the conclusion that homosexuality is not an alternate lifestyle. it is not just a sexual preference. it is not gay. but homosexuality is sin. >> the presidential inaugural committee issued a statement saying, quote, we were not aware of pastor giglio's past comments at the time of his collection and they don't reflect our desire to celebrate the strength and diversity of our country at this inaugural. before we get to vice president biden's big mee

yesterday the vice president met with representatives from the entertainment industry and gun owners groups. the president of the national rifle association says he left that meeting disappointed. >> they knew going into this meeting what the president's position on the so-called assault weapon ban is. it's the same he's taken for years. these are not new positions. the vice president said we do this with an open mind. at the meeting he said no we made up our mind on that. >> nra says it will not allow quote law-abiding gun owners be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. >> i don't need an assault weapon to protect my home. >> gun owners alistening with supporters of gun -- along with supporters of gun control packed a meeting. meeting. >>> three finalists were interviewed. now the city manager says she wants more time to consider them and look at even more candidates. the current police chief chris moore plans to retire a week from today. >>> 6:07 is the time right now. back over to sal who's been kind of busy for afraid. how does it look? >> it's okay. we are getting more people on