guna win, that looks less and less likely. >> stephen: but let me ask.ou support the war at the beginning. >> i did. i did. >> stephen: why if we didn't have to go. why an elective war. because i only supported it because i knew we had to go. b becse of the 45 minute thing. >> stephen: right, exactly. >> yeah. >> stephen: so why did you think we should go even though we didn't have to? >> i wanted iraqis to be free of saddam hussein. and that tyranny. i wanted it to see if the middle east could chart a new political course. and there was some reason to think it could go in that direction. but basically my book is a chronicle of how badly we viewed it -- screwed it up from a to z. >> stephen: this is the book, the assassin's gate gate, america's war in aing ra. how did we screw it up and if so how did we screw it up. i'm hearing it is not scscweweup but very complicated, from people like george packer. >> it is a complicated skewup. starting at the top, the president who really doesn't want to know what is going on over there, and know truth can penetrate