one require background checks for anyone purchasing a gun at a gun show or an online sale thank you most people don't know if you walk into a store and you buy a gun you have a background check but you go to a gun show you can buy whatever you want and no background check 2nd thing is closed to charles smith you know is the charles a loophole by people here i spent time down that church in charleston. what happened is someone was allowed to get the gun used to kill those innocent people a church service if the f.b.i. hasn't come didn't complete the background check within 3 days there's a process. it was done in 3 days according to charles lupul you get to buy the gun they bought the gun and killed a hell of a lot of innocent people who invited him to pray with them and 3 reauthorize the violence against women act which is so-called close thank the boyfriend and stalky loopholes to keep guns out of the hands of people found by a court to be an abuser and continue a threat i held over a 1000 hours a year is the past violence against women act one thing came through if in fact a stay

a gun. host: is that realistic? caller: that is what my point is, neither is this argument. it is not realistic. if you are not going to take away guns from everybody, you can make up mental health illness, you can make up criminals, it does not matter. it is ridiculous. host: you said you opposed everything but the ghost gun issue. why is that? caller: because they don't have serial numbers. if you are allowed to buy a gun, you should have a serial number for tracking. you should be able to track who owns a gun. but telling people you cannot protect themselves but this person is smarter than you and they can, that is kind of frightening. host: one of the things that came out was this idea of red flag laws and also these braces for certain types of high-powered pistol speared why do you support that? or why do you oppose those? caller: the handguns are the problem. too many handguns around. [indiscernible] the guns they are trying to ban, you are not having as many crimes as that. and regard

is a great example, the strictest gun laws in the country but all this gun violence, clearly the gun laws don't work. that is ludicrous because for decades you could drive to virginia literally ten minutes away and go to a gun show and buy as many guns as you wanted and bring them back to d.c. and sell them for a much higher price for people to use to kill each other. the gun laws in one place are the gun laws everywhere around the place. much of the book gets into the idea of safe storage and child safety laws which really should not be a partisan thing at all, this is not a law that deprives the responsible law-abiding gun owner of his weapons as they wanted. these laws basically say you have to be responsible with the gun that you have and if your negligence we need the child to get access to the weapon and hurt themselves or someone else, we can hold you criminally liable for your negligence. much of that is about education and there is a huge fraction of gun owners in america who are under this misconception that you can educate a child out of making a bad decision with a gun. t

own a gun.revent me from owning a gun. i have the right to have a gun it's enshrined in the constitution, and it's affirmed by the supreme court, so get off your leftist high horse and stop telling people the second amendment is not absolute and we need your permission because we don't. it's a god-given right, a natural right and you have got nothing to do with it. so you can keep yapping about gun control. buff until you take gun crime seriously. as far as gun owners are concerned it's nothing but white noise coming from the white house. that's my open. let me know what you have think on facebook page and twitter, #judgejeanine. if you liked my open, you will love my closing statement at the end of the show. especially tonight. first, radio host dana loesch joins me now. >> good evening, judge, good to see you. judge jeanine: one of the things joe biden talks about, he says gun violence is an epidemic. is it? >> what i think is an epidemic -- i love your opening statement, i say amen to that --

ghost guns is a nickname for the guns that are handmade, makeshift guns that you can buy kits for that they are not regulated as firearms and do not have serial numbers. if they do not have serial numbers that does not mean -- that means that you are not regulated. if you buy one of these you have to go through a background check, you do not have to right now. it is important because it will factor in who should not have a gun, and that is something that he has been pushed to do by a lot of advocates in the last couple of months, even during the translation and he has talked about certain things on the campaign trail. host: one of the topics we hear about is assault style weapons as it has been described. does that fall into consideration when it comes to the president's actions? guest: not for today and he wants congress to act. he still thinks that congress needs to act. there are several bills that he supports and we are likely to hear him talk about that including the assault rifle. he will act on something that is an assault type rifle, that was used in the boulder, colorado shoot

any difference on guns. so the assault weapon ban was hotly contested. yet, we got it done. and it made a difference. it saved lives. unfortunately, it had a sunset associated with it. we could not extend it. so the american people recognize that there are things that we need to do in regards to this gun violence. and one of them is to take off the streets for public ownership military-style weapons, high-capacity magazines. because they cause the most harm. and that's a major step forward in gun safety. so the lesson learned is that it makes a difference if we can prohibit private ownership of assault-type military weapons, we will save lives. and the american people support us on this. >> that is one of the things we're going to discuss later on in the program. i wonder what you remember from those negotiations that helped get past log jams. i'm sure there were moments writ looked like both sides would walk away and it wasn't going to happen. what does it take in that kind of a situation to keep everyone a

to make the gun. consequently, anyone from a criminal to a terrorist can buy this kit for as little as 30 minutes, put together a weapon. you know, i want to see these kits treated as fire arms under the gun control act. which is going to require that the seller and manufacturers make the key parts with serial numbers, and run background checks on the buyers when they walk in to buy that package. the second action we're going to take, back in the year 2000 the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and fire arms released a report on its investigation into fire arms trafficking in america. the report was a pivotal value. it was an important tool for policymakers when i was in the senate and beyond, at all levels, to stop fire arms from being illegally diverted into dangerous hands. today, with online sales, and ghost guns, times and trafficking messages have changed. now, we have to adjust. we also have to ask the justice department to release a new annual report. this report will better help policymakers address

when you take away guns, only the criminals have guns. second, because of the second amendment, the reason we have guns in the first place is to protect ourselves against the to radical government that we are currently starting to become, with the democratic party. so, therefore if you get rid of the guns, i mean have you seen black lives matter? that crime wave was financed by the democrats. host: what's going on in florida as far as you're concerned with crime? caller: there have been outbreaks of crime because of the lacking in-laws. of course the covid had some effect. when you have people that don't have money, you have higher crime. and with that, if you don't have a way to defend yourself and then you want to defend, defund the cops, what's going to protect us? who is going to protect us from the people that don't care about the laws and don't come here with guns and start picking people off? who will there be? no cops because you don't want to pay for them? no guns, we can't defend ourselves. who is going to be here to make sure t

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these bills require background checks for anyone purchasing a gun at a gun show or an online sale. [applause] you walk into a store and buy a gun, you have a background check. you go to a gun show, you can buy what you want and no background check. second thing is, close the charlston loophole. i've spent time down at the church and charlston. what happened is someone was allowed to get the gun used to kill those innocent people in a church service. if the fbi has not completed the background check within three days, there is a process. it was not done in three days. according to the charlston loophole, you get to buy the gun. they bought the gun and he killed innocent people who invited him to pray with them. reauthorize the violence against women act. [applause] close the boyfriend and stalking loopholes to keep guns out of the hands of people found by the court to be an abuser and continuing threat. i held over 1000 hours of hearings to pass the violence against women act. one thing came through. if, in fact, a stayaway order, an order preventing the abuser from coming within a

if you want access to your gun and the safest way to have the gun locks somewhere else and ammunition somewhere else but let's say you need again with quick access you can buy a $250 gun safe it's cheaper than the firearm right next to your bed you can have a loaded gun put your fingerprints or a code and have in two seconds to stop the home invader that there is no good argument that kids should have unfettered access to lethal weapons because we know the likelihood of death is so much greater if that one variable exist in their home. >> and this also speaks to the notion that we assume that having guns is associated with less crime when in fact the science shows completely otherwise. it is predictive of increased violence in various forms. the science piece is there in the researches and clear agreement about what access to firearms does with a disproportionate impact on children. again, just to underscore what your book talks about but the families that are forever changed by this kind of violence. we are at the end of our time but what do you say to people who say we lost 20 child

a gun.ave the right to have a gun parts not only enshrined in the constitution it is affirmed by the supreme court repeatedly. so get off your left his high horse and stop telling people the second amendment is s not absolute and we need your permission because we don't. it is a god-given right a natural right we've got to d defend ourselves and you've got nothing to do with it. so you can keep yapping about gun control. but until you actually take gun crime seriously as far as gun owners are concerned, it's nothing more than white noise coming from the white house. and that is my open. let me know which you think on my facebook and twitter # judge jeanine. if you like my open you're going to love my closing statement at the end of the show, especially tonight. but first, radio host danette joins me now. good evening dana. >> good evening judge good to see you. judge jeanine: good to see you as well. one of the things joe biden talks about he says gun violence is an epidemic. is it? >> what

ghost gun's subverts these. currently, individuals can acquire kits that contain all or almost all of the parts they need to assemble a gunner. they can put a working weapon together in as little as 30 minutes. the kits are happily called buy build shoot kits. yet because of regulations these may not be considered firearms and they are being made and sold without serial numbers and without background checks. within 30 days, atf will issue a rule to plug the gap and enable law enforcement to -- keep those who cannot lawfully possess them from having guns. will make it so that -- federal law requires taxation and registration of all short-barreled rifles. it does so because these weapons are powerful yet easily concealable. currently, some many lecturers make and some individuals purchase certain types of stabilizing braces that when attached to a pistol effectively converted to a rifle. these are "intended to be fired from the shoulder." within 30 days, atf will issue a proposed rule that will make clear that whe

these bills, one, require background checks for anyone purchasing a gun at a gun show or an online sale. most people don't know when you walk into a store and buy a gun, you have a background check. you go to a gun show you can buy whatever you want and no background check. second thing, close what is known as the charles loophole. i spent time down at that church in charleston. what happened is someone was allowed to get the gun used to kill the innocent people at the church service if the fbi doesn't complete the background check in three days. there is a process. if it isn't completed in three days, according to the charleston loophole, you get to buy the gun. he bought the gun and killed a lot of innocent people that invited him to pray with them. three, close the boyfriend and stalking loopholes to keep guns out of the hands of people found by a court to be an abuser and continuing threat. i held over 1,000 hours of hearings, one thing came through. if in fact a stay away order, an order preventing the abuser from coming in a certain distance of the person he has abused or she has

lowest gun violence cost and and we've proven that gun laws save lives without banning most guns it's just that our congress is lazy and cowardice and they just choose to accept blood money campaign contributions from the gun industry versus read what the 2nd amendment really says and then find their backbone and stand up against the gun in one. what about that to the businesses of one of the simple things would be to close the loophole which is the the one which allows people to buy guns without background checks at a gun show and also online is that something they that congress could agree on. they absolutely could if you go out if you change the filibuster rules after the horrific massacre at sandy hook in connecticut where 2567 year olds 267 year olds were killed and a mash routing. a law was brought up and passed the house and then went to the senate and there were not 60 senators who would support a criminal background check for online gun sales now you have to understand in america every federally licensed gun dealer although they can work out of their homes backpacks or car tr

sick -- he is a gun owner, hunter, and advocate for laws to prevent gun violence. he's previously promoted laws in front of the gun violence task force. david kabul is a research director and associate policy analyst with the cato institute in washington and adjuvant professor of advanced constitutional law at the university of denver earns -- denver's college of law. his discussed firearms, he is the author of 17 books, hundreds of articles, and 100 scholarly journal articles. before joining the institute, he served as an assistant attorney general of colorado. he is going to join us remotely. kimberly wyatt is the prosecuting attorney. she is work on cases involving child abuse and other crimes of violence. most recently, she has been part of a newly formed domestic violence regional firearms abortion unit. this role invites law enforcement and family on all aspects of extreme risk action orders from investigations to court proceedings. miss wyatt also works on firearms compliance cases and high-risk domestic violence firearm offenders. biggie go sir -- and vicki

right, your guns, not criminals guns, your guns, because you're the criminal now.nwhile chicago, 21-month-old child was shot on the street last month. mayor lori lightfoot decided not all guns need to be removed from the streets, just the ones you own. according to lori lightfoot, the dangerous not handgun but military grade weapons from other states. >> tuesday little swan was shot, eating other shots, five died. mayor lori lightfoot said part of the crime issue is gun control. >> you could go over the burner in indiana and by military grade weapons at nt quality. >> numbers show crime is up around this time last year there's 521 people shot. now the number is 743. >> tucker: this is one of the topics that's hard to do on tv. in an hour you can learn more about the topic actual facts about the topic that every single person making the policy. everything they say is untrue and provably so. there is no issue in which they lie more than this one which tells you a lot. lori lightfoot is the one you saw is a shocking live. of chicago's own data proved it. most violent

guns. would also agree with the first lady that we are saturated with guns and more guns and knives on tv shows and it's hard sometimes to turn on the tv without finding a show with more violence. that needs to end. i don't know if i said this, but i think only gun shops should be allowed to sell guns. host: you will probably hear someone say later on in the show that there are plenty of gun control laws on the books now, they need to enforce the ones already on the books instead of coming up with new laws. what would you say to them? caller: i would say we need stricter enforcement. that is really, i come from a family of hunters. they went to a gun shop, they bought their rifles. and some of them had pistol permits. i really think we need stricter laws and more enforcement. host: let's go to bob who is calling from north carolina. bob, good morning. caller: good morning to you. hope you are doing ok and appreciate you putting this on. one thing i would suggest is. i agree with you and wha

president biden taking action on gun control to try to cut down on gun violence across the country.calls it an epidemic an international mbarrassment at a white hou event. he said that there would be a 6 executive actions. one of them would tighten regulations so-called ghost guns. those are homemade guns that come in kit. there are no serial numbers. you can find the instructions online usually they are assembled from parts and again, there's really background checks on these the president says that he wants these kids to be treated as firearms under the gun control act. >> which is going to require that the seller and manufacturers make the key parts with serial numbers. and run background checks on the buyers and they walk in to buy that package. >> biden also says that reducing gun violence. i would save money for the country. he says an estimated 280 billion dollars a year the cost of gun violence will have more from washington coming up in a little while. president biden's executive actions are getting local support as well here in the bay area. the white house invited. >> a b

gun control is not about guns. gun control is about who controls america. the population as in a democracy mr. mark orders all control go to a small group of authoritarians as in an oligarchy? those are the stakes in the gun control debate. it's not about guns. it's about who runs the country. so, with that in mind, joe biden's speech today calling for more gun control should make you uncomfortable. almost nothing biden said was true. here are a few highlights to give you a flavor. biden claimed that firearms purchased at gun shows are exempt from background checks. that's a lie. anyone who has ever been to a gun show can show you. joe biden claims that gun manufacturers have total immunity against lawsuits. that is also a lie. gun manufacturers get sued all the time. ask them. so, is the speech aiming to mislead rather than informed? joe biden wanted to remind you that those rights are not really the first place. they are not come as he put it, absolute. >> nothing i am about to recommend in any way impinges on the second amendment. phony arguments suggest

if you look at gun crime across the united states, states with stronger gun laws have less gun crime,ime guns recovered at crime scenes actually come from states with the gun laws, and so why are they heading to those states to buy guns and bring them back and commit crimes? >> i made that point to the congressman last night. daniel hodges wrote, sandy hook marked the end of u.s. gun control debate, and once america decided killing children was bearable, it was over. do you agree with that? >> it's my least favorite tweet that has ever been tweeted. let me tell you why. so much has happened in this country in the last eight years on this issue, and moms demand action, we're 6 million members and larger than the nra, and we have taken them on in state houses and city council and school boards and boards rooms and we are winning. it's so important to remember that we have passed dozens and dozens of good gun laws and we stopped the nra's agenda in state houses 90% of the time in the last five years year after year, and hundreds of companies have changed their policies because we have pu

buying guns, said people were buying guns to fight off the zombie apocalypse. so that is who is running the atf. >> harris: you are talking about david, who he announced as director of the atf today. it tells you a lot. if you were already expecting a headwind, emily compagno, and you hear these words, you don't have to worry about the second amendment because anyone who would suggest that what he is pushing, joe biden, wouldn't be good for the country and make you safer would be funny arguments. so i start there. is there anything that makes us safer in that list? >> emily: the short answer is no inference here is i to call out a certain few additional points as well. he directed five federal agencies to make changes to the 26 existing different programs to direct vital support for the community violence intervention program "as quickly as possible." the president has already proposed a $5 billion investment in community violence program, eight years under his infrastructure package and i think it would say it would be a safe assumption that for the families o

so you're dealing with the 3 with the printed guns which is the plastic guns.host guns as they call certainly something to be done. california at least has the requirement that if you do with 3 d printed gun, for example, you actually knew the serial number, but. that doesn't cover people just buy online and by by mail and put them all together the way that they evade toe law right now. so that's a good that's a good thing. he can take that on, you this. the brace on the pistols make them work more like a small rifle. that's a

the teen had a gun. he did not when the officer shot him. >> if you are shooting an unarmed child with his hands in the air, it is an assassination. >> get out of the car now. >> reporter: in virginia, a video from last december came out, police pulling their guns and pepper spraying and forcing an army officer to the ground for an alleged traffic violation. >> this is [ bleep ] up. i can't believe i am being treated like this. >> reporter: all that comes against a backdrop of other mass shootings in colorado and georgia and elsewhere. the political cold war in washington and the pandemic which was taken well over a half million lives. we have had more tragedy than we can bear. >> reporter: in normal times any of these incidents may have spurred calls for change, renewed legislation which typically don't lead to much, in the past few weeks, america has been hurting and shocked and stunned in ways that are really quite extraordinary and so the fall-out from all of this is really unknown, erin. >> tom, tha

the guns and issue the person a 21-day order preventing them from access to guns and purchasing guns, but what it does allow, it allows the person to stabilize and there is a due process where the court can actually review what's going on. and they can have family members testify. they can have people that are concerned that basically testify. in that, so the one other thing that ab61 triggered is ab12. so initially, it was a one-year ban that a permanent gun violence restraining order can restrict. that has now been extended for up to five years with the option of every year the person can petition for the order to be reviewed by the courts. so there is a built-in due process. and, these are rare, just to let you know that somebody has to legally be able to have a gun for us to use that. but like in boulder, and i used this with just i wanted to tell you that i don't know all the details of boulder, but what i do know is something like that, if that was to happen in san francisco and we knew that ahead of time, this would definitely be appropriate to be able to prevent that person t

the gun show. a federal firearms license, you have to run a background check right there at the gun show for any when you sell a gun too. however, as a private citizen, if i have a gun i want to sell, can register for the gun show was a private citizen, walk into the gun show, the gun is locked, unloaded, and kept that way. i can sell that to another private citizen while i'm on the floor at a gun show. now, one of these are tables of hundreds of guns, the other one is just you happen to run into them and has a gun you are looking for on their back. if the numbers are pretty rare that it even happens to begin with, much less that someone goes there to could commit mass murder with a gun. america has to decide how we want background checks, how frequently will they want them, and neither side wants to get the whole truth at any given time. >> and overstating issue, because this is such -- we had to shootings, and it seems the president wants to take action. he can only do so to for these executive o

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police say not only did they find a gun, they found gun r residue on his hand? >> the gun was five feet or more, ten feet from adam's body. gun residue is transferable. >> what does that tell you? seems a big coincidence that there's a gun found right where he happened to stop. >> well, gun "was found five to ten feet from the body. gun residue is transferrable. reubenen roman has red gloves in his happened covered with gun residue. we don't know if the gun residue on adam's hand was there when he passed away. >> what you're saying is we don't know if adam fired the gun, which is what there would be residue of, i would assume, i'm not an expert. >> no. >> no? >> no. it is established that reuben roman fired that gun. it is also established that the magazine was empty. it is also established that the slide was open. and it is also established that when adam turned around, there was no gun in his hand. >> okay. but yet a gun was found right by his body, you say five to ten feet away, throwing distance. >> correct. >> so are you saying he did not have a gun or -- t

gun violence is not just a gun control issue.mmunity issue. it's such a symptom of so many different problems we face in this country. it's not going to be stopped by implementing gun control legislation. across the board we need to see people taking steps to stop this. when americans can't afford health care, gun violence is going to be worse. when americans are going into debt, we're going to see more gun violence. it's driven by a lot of things. that being said, laws and proposals like we're seeing from biden, these first couple of steps, they're baby steps, but they're all right, and i think we need to see more. because again, while it is an issue that takes over a lot of different aspects of american life, if you're not going to make the most fundamental simple changes that are so widely supported, you're not going see anything. >> just to be clear, though, given -- we talked about how there's a spike in sales after mass shootings. you don't think manufacturers want to see mass shootings because there's a spike in sales, or

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it's a basic aspect of responsible gun ownership, and since the founding of america, gun rights haveth responsibilities. there have been regulations that ensure that only law-abiding, responsible people carry and possess the deadly weapons that have led to so much death and suffering in our nation. so this isn't a second amendment issue. this is our elected leaders need to stand up and have the courage to vote for the types of policies that the majority of americans overwhelmingly support. >> hannah shearer with the giffords law center, we appreciate your insight and some information about these bills. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> we're tracking all the developments of president biden's gun control plans. you can find more details of his plan on our website. just go to nbcbayarea.com and click on "biden tightens some gun controls". >>> day nine of testimony in the derek chauvin trial, the former minneapolis police officer charged in the death of george floyd. today a doctor took the stand, dr. martin tobin. he told the jury that in his opinion, the

roger has made it clear to america's gun lobby that he wants more guns in the hands of the straight guns here in louisville kentucky and the n.r.a. can't will be to agree please bear with us there roger miller who is here all the way from sydney australia my goodness gracious and this is your 1st entering the 1st annual meeting and it's a very impressive show the event was expected to attract 70000 people some of them from all over the world then to die nobody saying everyone has to have a gun what we're saying is it needs to be a rational to buy from australia to the lane of the free lodging won't learn travel to the generate convention and move from down under here you know right on for us to learn more about what you know is done we've had some great conversations with them and i. i'm a landscape looking down and i'm. told . but much of my life isn't who he claims to be. he's working undercover for me peter charlie. rose that very interesting i'm a reporter from al-jazeera is investigative unit we created gun rights astray as a front in order to infiltrate the pro-gun lobby and unders