. >> michael gunter, tennessee tech university, cookeville, tennessee. >> i know the city. my in-laws live there. >> i know that. senator, you mentioned -- >> my son's wife's parents, i'm sorry, i didn't -- >> you mentioned briefly the kurdish situation in turkey which has been going on in its current form for over 30 years. could you go into a little further detail about what you think turkey should do to further a solution to the kurdish problem? >> the first thing that's happened, and i think it's worthwhile mentioning, if you go to urbile, you will see a modern, thriving, dynamic economy. you will see shopping centers, multiplexes. it's incredible what has happened to the kurdish economy over the last 25 years since they were once living in the mountains. it's been incredible. and it has been the turkish influence economically that has been the driver. all of these places that i'm talking about are turkish investment and partnership with the kurds. so, with that economic success, it has dramatically reduced the influence of the pkk in kurdistan. so, they have become mor