the truth of the matter is barry gunther, in his book, bbc atching," which is domestic religion coverageshowed in the early 1990's questions -- which questioned different groups, christian, non-christian, including islamic listeners and viewers, asked questions like, if you want more, what happens when religion comes, do you turn over? it was always islam, which all the religion sectors that said no, we want more, more, more. so signals about the imam for morris lamb was well before 9/11. have you read barry gurnter's report? >> quite. there were those reporting on islam before 9/11. i mentioned the revolution and reform of islam series i was doing. a lot of other people were talking about it but it just wasn't -- it was almost like it suddenly caught the news editors at the top. we're playing catch-up. that unfortunately happens quite a lot as a reactive environment in the media. more than it should be. and again that's why i think it's great to have specialists because there it can be less reactive and more proactive on the things you report on. >> we have time for one more. two more.