in 2011, the martin gunther was killed, people came together and said what is going on in this countryif that was exacerbated by more people killing police, it would -- >> it's something like more people die of gun violence in the united states, it's 30,000 due to gun suicides. angela, let me ask you, when you look at this, is this the common american experience, when you think about baton rouge and the interaction with police, is this something that you think is part of african-american life? >> well, i think a couple of things, fareed. the first thing i would say to you is that there may be a common thread, right, but african-americans are certainly not monolithic in this country, there are differences, if -- i was born on the west coast for example in seattle, my experiences are vastly different from someone who grew up in philadelphia or new york, and they're different from what you see in the south. i think the one thing that i will say is common, is that when i'm driving down the street in my vehicle, and if a police car is behind me, whether the lights are on or not, i get extre