gurley testified that she saw teresa talking to duckett. moments later she saw duckett leave the scene with a small person in his police car. >> were you able to see the car? >> yes. >> were you able to see inside the car? >> yes. >> how many people did you see? >> two. >> prosecutors also called three women who each testified that officer duckett had made sexual advances while he was on duty. >> they were all accosted by duckett when he was on duty in uniform in his patrol car on the midnight shift and taken by him to wooded areas. >> it took jury less than 90 minutes to find james duckett guilty of capital sexual battery and murder in the first degree. on june 30th, 1988, james duckett was sentenced to death. >> when they sentenced him, it was probably one of the best days of my life. because i took a bad cop out who killed a child. >> 14 years after duckett's conviction, a retired miami police homicide detective named marshall frank began doing an investigation for a crime novel he wanted to write. >> i retired to a little town called ma

i wonder, captain gurley, how do you keep them motivated?ese are professionals and this is the kind of job they love to be able to solve for us all. i was on submarines using technology and you rotate folks through. every couple of half hour or so that you don't have somebody sort of zone out on the stack. you've got to stay fresh and alert because you never know when those signals will pop into the headphones. >> mary, we're talking about day 38, though. it seems like that sounds simple maybe when you have a couple of weeks or a couple of days and now you're talking day 38. is there going to be a concern or worry that you have to find more personnel to swap out, to change these schedules? >> well, i think that is true and there are also some hints about what is coming next when united states sent in and agreed to provide a logistic ship, the "cesar chavez" and that's kind of a big gas station and supermarket tied into one ship. and so they will be able to refuel, refresh, repair things, supply tools, fuel, all of that. and so that will be a

captain van gurley and mary schiavo. thanks so much. we'll talk later on in this hour as well. >>> all right, so much more to this very challenging search in the southern indian ocean. we'll explore that, next. at your ford dealer think? they think about tires. and what they've been through lately. polar vortexes, road construction, and gaping potholes. so with all that behind you, you might want to make sure you're safe and in control. ford technicians are ready to find the right tires for your vehicle. get up to $120 in mail-in rebates on four select tires when you use the ford service credit card at the big tire event. see what the ford experts think about your tires. at your ford dealer. >>> the search field for malaysia airlines flight 370 has been 2345ir7 ohh been narrowed over the past few weeks. there's a massive challenge. here now is ed lavandera. >> reporter: prulunging into th association a mysterious abyss. a journey few humans can comprehend. the boeing 777 is about 200 feet white, 242 feet long and possibly so deep under

right now joining us, richard quest and also joining us here, van gurley, along with sonar technologynold carr. let's say that these pings are coming from the so-called black boxes. so walk us through exactly. if the batteries are dead, how long could it take potentially to find them? >> the good news is, wolf, they've got a much smaller area now. up until now we've been talking about tens and hundreds and thousands of square miles. if they are in fact on the area, we're now talking about 100 square miles, maybe 200 square miles. it's a much more problem to search through that. if in fact the pinger batteries dies and they are not able to reacquire the signal, what they would do is go through the blue fin 21 and search small patches of ocean one at a time and work their way through it. but it's going to be very slow and methodical work. >> and presumably, arnold, if it's getting closer and closer to the relatively tiny black boxes, the wreckage presumably is not all that far away, right? >> exactly. the black boxes are in the tail of the aircraft and should be right near to the wrecka

let's bring in our correspondent richard quest along with former navy oceanographer van gurley.u have any idea what they're talking about here? >> when they say there's going to be a big announcement, no. it will come from one australian defense force. having said that one can only imagine that, you know, expectations have been raised. i suppose they're going to be talking about the future direction of the search area and how they're going to move it forward. because clearly the area that they first identified wasn't the right area and the search zone moved northeast. then as you can see from this map, it moved out to the east of that, then it moved slightly back to the west. what's happening, wolf, is that the planes and ships are combing these areas. they're not finding anything. so within the confines of the inmarsat data -- and it's interesting to note that even tonight the answer, the australian maritime safety authority, even in their announcement today of what the search is that will be taking place on friday australia time, they refer again to this international group ba

let's bring in captain van gurley, a form u.s.gue, falmouth scientific incorporated. welcome, gentlemen. >> good morning. >> good morning, carol. >> good morning. thank you for being with me. i want to talk about these sonar buoys. are they dependable, fred? >> yeah, they've been very dependable. they've been used for submarine reconnaissance for years. they're just using that technology that they've used for years, again, for submarine reconnaissance for a search and recovery mission. >> so captain gurley, now they've had five separate instances where they've picked up sound from juunderneath the water. how hopeful should we be? >> well, carol, i'm very hopeful that they are on the right place now. when you look at the accumulation of evidence and the repeated pings that all match, all the specifications we expect, i am confident they are on the right place. the fact that the p-3s now think they may have picked up something is even better news. that means the batteries are still alive. and it lets them refine the area they're goi

let's get more from oceanographer van gurley. van, thanks very much.s, they found debris after five days but then two days it took them to find the black boxes. but they have a much bigger area than presumably they are looking at right now. >> you're right. that was a two-year effort and that wasn't two years on the water. that was about 20 weeks on the water because of logistics to look at a 5,000 square-mile area. based on the very positive returns that were heard over the weekend by the "ocean shield" team and the phoenix international experts, they have to be within three to four miles of the location of something on the bottom that is manmade and the only thing that really should be down there at this point would be the pingers. so if you're looking at something, even conservatively, you're talking about 75 square miles, which they already have narrowed it down to. that makes this a very trackable problem. >> in the air france disaster, they never heard any pings to begin with. at least now they believe they heard two hours of pings coming from on

navy captain van gurley, he commanded the navy's oceangraphy operations. thanks for coming into join me. your company found the black box from the air france flight. why haven't you been called in earlier than this? >> i wish i would answer that question. we would welcome the opportunity to assist. we have got a lot of experience with very difficult searches like this. air france 447 is just one case of things that we have been able to go in and assist the teams at finding something on the ocean bottom that is very difficult to find. >> i appreciate that the seven area is so much bigger than it was when you were looking for that air france black box. even so, we have had all of these planes going out. we had the ships going out. wouldn't it have made sense to have people doing the underwater search at the same time while we still have life on that battery box ? >> there is nothing unusual about this particular situation. the normal way that the search would progress is exactly what they have been doing, but this is not a normal case. we have never really s

captain gurley, last word on what you see happening potentially this week. >> completely agree with milese week where we have a decision made on the time to start looking on the ocean bottom. as allen said, the echo can help out. she has extra capabilities and i think the biggest open question is how much longer for the debris field? >> captain, allen, david, miles, thanks to all of you gentlemen. appreciate it. we'll be right back. >>> i was a firefighter in philly for seven years. you get to a fire scene and the firefighters are there to put out the fire. the salvation army and the red cross assist the people once the fire is out. but there just wasn't anyone to help the other part of the family. i would see how upset the people were about their animals. where is my pet? and then where's it going to go? these are people's children. they've just lost everything. they shouldn't then be forced to lose their pets, as well. we have a dog displaced by a fire, a chihuahua. i'm headed to the scene now. we respond 24/7, 365 a year. we do for pets what the red cross does for people. wept in the b

joining us is captain john kazinski and van gurley is a former naval oceanographer and with metron serviceions. how quickly could these autonomous underwater vehicles move into the area and which ones should they be sending? >> well, the first is, can they find something that is available? it's not like there's a warehouse with these things waiting for a call. they are fairly specialized pieces of gear and they are in use all the time. the equipment that the navy owns is what we call high demand and low density asset. first is finding something that you could use and second is nying flying it there so there could be weeks. in terms of the types, there are a number of other vehicles similar to bluefin-21. one of the ones that i'm familiar with is the remus 6000. it was the type of vehicle that was used in the air france 447 search and it would be perfectly adapted for these areas. there's other vehicles, too. it's sort of the production stuff. and then you get into the other technology that people have talked about. one are man submersibles. i would highly advise against that. it takes a lo

let's get more now with former navy oceanographer van gurley. it's been 36 days now. might be dead, for all we know, although they are not ready to send the bluefin-21 down to start looking at the bottom of the ocean. >> wolf, everything that we are seeing in how the australians have approached this problem is slow and deliberate. that's what we are seeing right now. they are doing the right thing but they are doing it at their pace. they are going to wait until every last chance that the batteries might still be alive has passed. i think there's going to be several more days in the very slight chance that they have expended it out to 35 or 40 days. then, and only then, will they start the bluefin work. you can't do the two things at the same time. >> because if the bluefin makes noise, that could be confusing to those guys who are listening. the other point, the battery may already be dead but they don't want to take any chances? >> exactly right. in brian's piece, you saw what they are trying to get through. they are listening through headphones and they need a very

bill gurley is on your board of directors from benchmark.yelp which i assume is a competitor to yours. peter fenton is on the board of yelp. why should i feel comfortable with having bill gurley on your board when benchmark also owns yelp? >> bill gurley is an incredible asset to the country and he's a smart guy. in terms of yelp and grubhub i would look at them differently. >> why? >> i would say yelp is more like a trip adviser really broad and narrow. a lotnovations on the web side. we're here for the transaction. everything that we do is about that transaction and making -- reducing the frictions, the transaction costs and increasing flexibility and transparency for diners ultimately and by addressing everything on this transaction we see our business grow tremendously over time. we own this space. >> having a yelp review and/or the number of the restaurant in my neighborhood and making a phone call to have it delivered. >> yelp could be a tremendous affiliate partner of ours. i don't see yelp actually owning this space or really wanting

what is very similar in fact to something like helen gurley brown's sex and the single girl which wasproto-feminist and despite prose was very much an argument for women's sexual and financial autonomy. this thing creepy though it may be to plant the idea and i'm not sure if you could stand on her own 2 feet but she could wobble defiantly on her own 2 feet without being held up by a man. [laughter] >> i had a totally different feeling about barbie. i didn't want my daughter to even have her. i thought she was antifeminist frankly put on this business about women being their own worst enemy, it was major with his sisters. as i said they wrote this scandalous article about henry ward beecher having an affair and as victoria said he speaks to 16 of his mistresses that every sunday in church. they were put in jail by anthony comstock. from les miserables, he put them back and over and over again for what was a really small offense and absolutely joining that of course are the tube teacher sisters who wrote. rowed uncle tom's cabin and call them tramps and and prostitutes by catherine and

am i wrong to have expected something more sophisticated, captain gurley? >> i think you're asking the right question. is it possible? yes. is it likely? >> i think as they continue to investigate this. the types of equipment are for handheld divers. a short-range detection piece of gear and not really designed to be ultrasensitive for the long-range detections you need for an area like this. for the fact that they're deploying it right over the side over the ocean surface and getting hits a mile apart doesn't add up, but requires investigation. they have the "echo" headed to the area to see if this is real or one of the go signals that you sometimes chase around the ocean. >> we were skeptical yesterday, i think everybody was, when we heard about this. we knew this was coming from chinese state agency but there is a reporter onboard the ship and this is what she had to say. >> this afternoon, the rescuers have heard the pings every signal and the signals lasted for 1:30. however, the rescuers say that this comes a signal at this frequency is not exclusive

jeff weiss, captain van gurley, thank you both. we'll continue this conversation, of course, throughout the hour and throughout the day. and jeff weiss brought up something that i know my twitter account and yours, as well, will be lighting up -- >> because people on twitter are already asking me, what if the thing handed? somebody asked that today. >> yeah. >> it's still out there, folks. all righty. >>> a setback, too, for sea world after a new court ruling. see what the decision means for the embattled park, where a killer whale took the life of a trainer four years ago. >>> big-named websites, you use them every day, they are scrambling to patch this heartbleed bug. we'll tell you what it does and how to protect yourself. ♪ ♪ ♪ ben! ♪ [ train whistle blows ] oh, that was close. you ain't lying. let quicken loans help you save your money with a mortgage that's engineered to amaze. >>> 16 minutes past the hour right now. we want to make sure you're on time this morning. we'll have so much for you on the missing airlines flight 37

van gurley is a former oceanographer. fred, i'll start with you.this hampering the efforts to find the plane considering we know so little about the portion of the indian ocean? >> the bluefin is a high level of technology that is being used right now for the recovery efforts for the vehicle. and by using that, it gives me the impression they have a pretty high degree of confidence that they're operating the bluefin in the area they want to be in. in the beginning, we heard they were not sure of the water depths and they brought in a ship, the hms echo. the hms echo has a multibeam sonar. you can imagine it like your satellite view. looking down and giving you the high level aspect of what the sea floor looks like. that would aid in creating the missions that the bluefin would operate in. you have a second level of systems that are deep water towed systems that can look out over a much wider swath, a couple of kilometers or so. the fact that they are using the bluefin, that is the third tier in the recovery efforts. that gives me the impression the

and dan gurley, senior member of scientific solutions and also part of the team that helped find airrance flight 447. good morning to both of you. another day, another set of developments we need to discuss. >> marry i want to ask you, last week, kind of where we ended, it was always thought to this point that we were going to detect debris in from the air. and then you're going to send in the pinger locator and you're going to then start the underwater search. how surprising is it for you, of course, a healthy dose of caution, because we don't know what it is yet, that that they've detected these pings under water? >> well, it's surprising because you're exactly right. usually, they find a debris field and trace it back, accounting for times and currents and movement of the water. and then look for the pings thereafter. but here, fortunately because they went back and refining inmarsat data they were able to have flight paths if these are indeed the black boxes that the flight pattern that they calculated panned out. there's a little bit of luck involved there, but i guess, kudos to

action has become the preferred tool in modern geopolitics to discuss this and now i'm joined by mark gurley altie a professor at new york university and an expert on russian security affairs mark thank you very much for being here great to be you now just a few days ago u.s. secretary of state john kerry specifically of one brush against using cover it means in the ukraine and he called it the nineteenth century behavior but i wonder if his temporal reference is really accurate because it seems that cover the actions are really part of the desire guys they seem to be on the increase around the world yes i mean many ways the world is heading towards a nineteenth century i think as we see military conflict becoming harder and harder between modern states that are also interconnected instead given the pressures are still there they move to other means i think that basically the way the world is going now according to the year is defense department's dictionary of military and associated terms a covert operation is an operation that is planned and executed still to conceal their identity or per