century, if you look at radio, television, newspapers, magazines, they were all the same model that guttenberg started. today we have the model where you don't have to be a priest to have a voice. that's the revolutionary change and the history of humanity. >> some might say it's true. we're just moving everything faster. there was a telegraph, there was a radio. there was television. >> the reason that's dead wrong is what this system does is facilitate group interaction and

. >> it occurs to me, to try to sum this up, guttenberg, guttenberg's invention gave people the incentive to read and to learn to read, so it pushed literacy. internet gives people the incentive to write or to produce films or all these other things to express, and i hadn't until tonight put those two things together, and i think that's a dramatic difference because we are now people who generate as well as people who absorb. >> that is incredibly important, and you know this great sage will.i.am put it best. he said that we used to consume news sitting on a couch, and now we consume news galloping on a horse. we don't just consume it. we sort of share it. we pass it on. we -- it's a much more active involvement. >> yes. >> and -- and as vince said, it's not just even consuming. it's now expressing ourselves, and -- and self-expression is the new entertainment, and i think those in the mainstream media who don't recognize that are still puzzled by the fact that so many millions of people are producing content for free and they don't get that. i think it's exploitation when in fact it's se

century, if you look at radio, television, newspapers, magazines, they were all the same model that guttenberg started. today we have the model where you don't have to be a priest to have a voice. that's the revolutionary change and the history of humanity. >> some might say it's true. we're just moving everything faster. there was a telegraph, there was a radio. there was television. >> the reason that's dead wrong is what this system does is facilitate group interaction and discover people that you don't know that have common interests. you don't have to know who they are in order to interact with them online. this is a very different environment. >> all a good thing? >> no. >> in a word. >> no, definitely not all a good thing. the way i see it is it's this amazing new chapter in our history. >> in human history. >> in human history. you think of it it's as adam told eve in the garden of eden, i was there. i know that. >> he didn't tweet this. >> that's how old i am. he said we're living in a time of conviction. i think we can say again. while we're in a kind of garden of eden, the internet

that's what's different about this age, from guttenberg's age, the speed of change is exponentially faster. >> two answers. first, i think it's an exciting time digitally. i think i would reduce it to mobile social video, those things are going to be transforming and transformative, and the second thing i would say is i'm greatly encouraged because every indication we have and we know more about our audience than we have ever known about it, is that what our audience cares most about is really strong original interesting journalism, good journalism works, and the fact that good journalism works across any platform is hugely encouraging. >> i think the new new thing that will be transformative the next five years may be the advance, you see it in your iphone, but in just voice recognition which leads to sort of an artificial intelligence, almost, where you can just communicate with any device, it learns everything you want. the interface is so simple, you just say show me somebody interesting on media on charlie rose and your tv will do that for you instead of you having to work with a brai