i don't know -- >> it's not guyton as celebrity in the book. it is guyton sa guy. >> he happened to pull up in his pickup truck and was checking out this flag he had just detached from one of the houses. i would much rather present a character come especially well-known character like that and that sort of setting, but the camera is slightly off kilter, rather than sit down and do a formal interview. they're going to have talking points to get the same story. >> i'm going to indulge myself here because i work at one of the newspapers. but she read a lot about press coverage of the city in the book and particularly local press coverage. the first-time user to visit this with the headlines about crime in the city. i think one of the tricks of writing about detroit is not assuming it's one or the other. not assuming it's these things have not those, but that it's all of those things and trying to figure out how they'll coexist and fit together. i sigh you did a good job of something like murder, which we get a lot of coverage for and violence is a