i think that there's, i was very inspired by gwen ifill just by her presence. and my presence, i think, means something to people in that room. but the other thing is, i like pbs for what they've told me the job is gonna be because they said, part of your job is going to be going out into the country and telling stories about people, talking to people, asking yourselves, what do these policies mean? if you said something at the state of the union like, black unemployment is so amazingly low and african-americans are doing so great, okay, let's go talk to the black people that live in detroit and see how great their lives are. so i think that's part of the job. and if you're a white house correspondent, i think you have to be out in the community. - you can't be wedded to that room. - i don't think you can be wedded to that room. i'm two weeks on the job but i don't think you can be wedded to that room. - journalism itself, of course, in our lifetimes, has changed, although i'm a littler older than you and so probably i have a different perspective on how things

gwen ifill was one of them. the late great amazing gwen ifill.she was one of my mentors and someone, my role model and looked up to and wanted to be. i think that's what of the things for me, just bringing up, up the next generation and mentoring and pouring into folks are coming up behind you. >> i hope that people would say i told the truth and that i made a difference and that i really represented everyday people, concerns and challenges. i really hope that if i die, because that's good what it's going to be, because i don't plan on retiring, hopefully not, i think that's what it is. i think that i hope i can be remembered as a civil rights journalist and that the bodywork i leave behind is not just like hodgepodge of all sorts of cool and interesting things i been able to do, that people can threat together the stories i wrote and people say she was a 2018 civil rights journalist. >> i think that i'd like to be remembered as someone who worked hard, tried to do my best everyday, put everything into whatever story i was working on at that mome

. >> i chose gwen ifill. >> we respected black journalist la reason bennett. >> because it's baseballn, i want jackie robinson. >> a leader who as a young student rode buss in the south to stand up to entrenchesed forces. and that's john lewis. >> as a journalist, chris, i'm going to look to w.e. b. du bois. >> it's that kind of person who builds our cities, who saves our communities. >> i da clark. can you google her. >> yes, you can. she was my grandmother i would like to suggest another name, the great entertainer harry bellefonte. he played an enormous role in the movement out front and off stage. he was able to work with political figures while never giving up his militancy, his credibility with the activists led by dr. king. that's "hardball" for now this week. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >>> tonight on "all in." >> lock her up. lock her up. lock her up. >> as they cheered at cpac -- >> pleading guilty. >> blood money. >> yet another top trump aide pleats guilty. this time to conspiracy against the united states. >> why are you pleading