congresswoman, congresswoman gwen gwen moore of wisconsin. congresswoman, nice to see you.ment of education is a is a government agency. a federal government agency technically falls under the executive branch, but like all government operations, is funded through appropriations at congress. so ultimately, the buck stops with you and your colleagues. a number of your republican colleagues seem to have no issue with this region, with a bunch of random people having access to all of our payment systems and our information. so it does fall to you as democrats to say, what's going on here? what were you trying to establish, and what do you know about what's going on with the department of education? >> well, thank. >> you for having me, ali. this is my 20th anniversary in congress, and i've tried so hard to establish the reputation of being the gentle lady from wisconsin. but this has been a very, very difficult week for me. and the department of education was just yet another trigger for me. as you know, i'm a member of the ways and means committee, right? and so what i saw ha

she said, quote, gwen moore forced her way in there, and then i got to go in right behind her. she said, quote, and she was already confronting speaker johnson about treasury secretary and the treasury secretary and the stealing of americans private information, tax information that should never be stolen and given to this billionaire. elon musk. gwen moore forced her way in there that i got to go in right behind her. how rude. it's terrible. and the pushback continues to take many forms, including some unexpected ones. today we did get a new lawsuit filed by one of the national labor relations board members who trump illegally fired this past week. it looks like we're about to get another lawsuit filed by somebody else who trump illegally fired from the eeoc. today, another federal judge blocked this sort of wildly, brazenly unconstitutional gambit from trump's first day to declare the 14th amendment to the constitution to be null and void, saying it's no longer true that if you're born here, you're an american. at the end of a court hearing on this matter this morning, this f

at the white house tonight, i want to go as promised, now to the democratic congresswoman gwen moore. she's from wisconsin. she just confronted the speaker about elon musk as he was meeting with the new treasury secretary. so i appreciate your time, congresswoman moore. we have this photo that you shared of you walking into the speaker's office. obviously, we're in a situation of a black box here, right? all that. the only reason we know anything is happening is from various reporting from ours and other outlets. right. there's been no disclosures. what made you go to this? this point to actually basically force yourself into the speaker's office? >> thanks for having me. aaron. and i appreciated a lot of the background information that you've given people already. but the reality is, is that my phones are blowing up here in washington, d.c. and in my district office, and all i've been able to say to people is that i don't know when they ask, i'm not, you know, something that you didn't necessarily mention, but why do these people have access to my social security number, to my bank a

wisconsin congressman gwen moore says she left the meeting concerned that, quote, the speaker had no idea what they'd been doing. with us now is congresswoman, who ended up joining her, california democrat judy chu, who is also a member of the house ways and means committee. good morning to you. this week. you went in there with gwen moore of wisconsin to speak with mike johnson, with the speaker of the house. and what was to you so urgent? what did you learn in that meeting, if anything, that either makes you concerned or that assuages some of your concerns? >> what we. >> learned just. >> moments before was that elon musk and. unelected billionaire had been given unfettered access to the most precious private details of hundreds of millions of americans. this has to do with tax information. this has to do. >> with social security. >> and medicare. >> the department of treasury. has access to. >> all of that, and he was given unfettered. >> access to. >> not only look. >> at that. >> information. >> but also do something about it, such as stop payments. we were so. >> alarmed. >> we

so when i heard about this meeting, congress member gwen moore, a fellow member of the ways and means committee, and i, walked straight to the speaker's office to demand to speak with the secretary. this isn't business as usual. that's why we did it. well, they put the speaker in the room to talk to us and then put the treasury secretary off through another door to avoid us. so we speak to speaker johnson and what we learned was shocking. the speaker admitted that he did not know if musk's actions were even legal. or what information his team had access to and was manipulating. but he still refused to take action to stop him. fortunately, a federal court order has ordered musk out of the treasury systems at least in terms of manipulating it, but not in terms of reading it. the danger certainly has not passed. if he remains in our government system, he could unilaterally freeze federal funds for programs that women and families rely on he was may have already stolen women's private, personal data, including sensitive health information. he could turn off funding for new mothers, to hel

. >> democrats judy chu and gwen moore went to speaker johnson's office. he was set to talk with bessent. they were upset about access elon musk has to the payment system at the department of treasury. johnson contends congress has not ceded power of the purse to musk and doge. >> we don't see it as a threat to article one at all but an active, engaged, committed executive branch authority doing what they should do. this is not a usurp of authority. >> many republicans like it as doge looks for wasteful programs. >> too often we let things go for years and decades without re-evaluating what it is you are doing, where it is you are spending your money. are you wasting money? i think elon musk is putting a spotlight on things that maybe democrats don't want a spotlight on. >> they can only delay confirmation of vote. the senate broke of filibuster yesterday. the time for their protest expires at 7:00 p.m. tonight and should be confirmed on a party line vote. >> john: thank you. >> dana: before this week, many people in america might not have heard of usaid.