and "outfront" now, linwood lambert, gwendolyn smalls and her attorney. this again, this footage play out again has got to be very difficult for you. it does give viewers a sense of what really happened, though, and police are now saying the use of force was appropriate and necessary because your brother was acting erratic, he posed a danger that justified 21 tases. what do you say when you hear that? >> obviously they had to say that because they had nothing else to justify what they did to him. they have to say that it was justifiable. but as you look at the video, it's excessive force. it's more than what was needed for a man who was restrained. so that's just a story that they want to stick with because, that's what they do. they make up stories and stick with it. if they tell a lie long enough t. becomes their truth. >> gwendolyn, let's me ask you about the part where they pull up to the hospital and he kicks the glass out of the window. you can see the glass spraying everywhere and then he runs towards the hospital. is there anything there that make

we'll talk live to his sister gwendolyn smalls.ederal court. now, first, a little more on our investigation. our team went through 80 minutes of police and hospital tape. the footage shot from five cameras, showing every minute of this trip to the hospital that ended in lambert's death. he was tased in three separate sequences over a relatively short period of time. once at the doorway to the hospital's e.r. with him falling. then as he lay on the ground. then after the doorway tasings, he was put not in the hospital, but back in the squad car. i want to tell you in my reporting, south boston police declined a comment. but in court papers, they say the force was necessary and appropriate, said he destroyed property and was a danger to others. state police conducted their own investigation. i spoke to them this week and also a criminal inquiry remains open as to these events. kate? >> i want to bring in now as you said, his sister, gwendolyn smalls, who is suing the police for wrongful death. gwendolyn, all i can say is, when i saw

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and i want to bring in gwendolyn smalls, the sister of lambert, also attorney joe messa who represents very much, ms. smalls, for being with me. in the story that ari brought us, you said that you want to see your brother's grave after you saw these videos because you had no idea. what were you told? what did your family -- what were they told about what happened to him? >> well, i was told me different stories, but one of the stories that i was told was that he was tasered in front of the hospital because he kicked out a window. sergeant rigger who was the lead investigator for the state police told me this. but he did not go into detail about what else he saw in the video. so that was all that we were told. so we just only assumed that he was tasered in front of the hospital, and he had a heart attack because of the taser. but watching the video, he obviously seen the video himself did not go into more detail about what else was in the video to me. so we just only assumed that. that's what happened to him. >> talk to me about your brother. what kind of a man was he? i know that he wa

gwendolyn says nothing will bring her brother back, but she hopes the story will spur action. >> youant justice. what will justice look like here? jail time. jail. >> pat lawson muse, news 4, washington. >>> now at 6:00, heated protests across the country to bring attention to racial injustice on college campuses sparked by the events at the university of missouri and it quickly spread from ithica college in new york to howard university here in d.c. >> tonight those calls have led to online threats and that's prompted police to step up security. our meagan fitzgerald joins us now from the campus of howard university. meagan? >> reporter: i can tell you tonight that students are concerned and they're not living in fear after this post was posted to an online site where people can remain anonymous. these threats started off with them talking about concerns about the university of missouri where student-led protests over racial inequality led to the resignation of the president there and then it turned to howard university threatening students on campus here. now, fbi agents say this w

gwendolyn small says nothing will bring her big brother back, but she hopes his story will spur action. >> you said you want justice. what would justice look like here? >> jail time. jail. >> while thal civil case has a hearing in federal court today, e local prosecutor also tells me the criminal inquiry remains open and will go on as long as it takes to determine what happened that night. >> it's stunning. this happened in may, and yet this video never came out after his death. it only came out becausef the civil trial. >> that's right. under court order, that's when the family got t t tapes. so for two years they never knew what happened that night. >> wow. >> the videos certainly takes this in a new direction. ari, tnk you very much. >>> let's gea check of the weather as al checks off another state from his rokerthon list. hey, al. good morning. >> hey, good morning, guys. we're on an amtrak northeast regional 172 heading toward boston, and we're pulling into the new care ol'ton station. in the meantimeulling into the pacific northwest there's a massive stern. we'll show you what it