proposed stip ligz decision in the matters of upon gweneth borden. confirm there is no in person. public comment. hold on. we have one caller in the queue. david pilpel. a couple of thoughts on this one. i understand this if you want to send it become for further discussion and negotiation that is fineful i suggest in something like this to have the penalty not exceed the total compensation the individual received and i think i heard this the individual received 12, 500 for the work it would seem to me the will total penalty should not exceed that amount. it seems -- although it does credit a deterrent affect it seems unusual you would require more from spantds then and there they received for the alleged improper conduct. just a thought about that. and to the broader issue of stipulations general low temperature took me awhile to find the amount i had to go through the upon agenda want to staff report. it is not in the stipulation itself it is the last line on exhibit a. to the stipulation. i suggest in the future lift on the agenda for proposed stipulation decision in the matter