gwyneth hughes, on the question of paula l hughes, on the question of paula vennells?�*, . , ., , vennells? it's really sad actually, because this _ vennells? it's really sad actually, because this was _ vennells? it's really sad actually, because this was known - vennells? it's really sad actually, because this was known about. because this was known about some years ago, certainly known about when she accepted her cbe i wonder, why did she accept it? did she think this would alljust go away? she could have... hindsight obviously, but it was within her power to be the night on the white charger, know what was going on and say, ok, only to fix it, it's my organisation, i'm the boss and i can fix it but for whatever reason, i don't know what that reason is, with luck the public inquiry will dig into this, for whatever reason she did not feel able to do that and she just kept defending what turned out to be the indefensible. bud defending what turned out to be the indefensible.— indefensible. and it is on the front -a . es indefensible. and it is on the front pages now.

, the drama , by gwyneth hughes, the drama, the impact has been absolutely astonishing.ink anybody could have could have predicted that the drama could have had the effect that it has. it's totally changed. um, the position of government , position position of government, position of post office. i think it's probably the most dramatic , um, probably the most dramatic, um, drama , uh, that i've ever come drama, uh, that i've ever come across. i hope they win a bafta and very quickly , ian, i think and very quickly, ian, i think more than a bafta. >> what about a knighthood for alan bates? we're seeing we're seeing we're seeing a knighthoods and cbes potentially being stripped away from people. what knighthood for mr what about a knighthood for mr bates? surely that would get a huge , public vote . huge, huge public vote. >> i'm sure. >> i'm sure. >> i'm sure it would. i mean, alan bates has been absolutely outstanding and amazing throughout. we've had the privilege of working quite closely with him. certainly he was a stalwart on the mediation sort of working group. if a