see from apparel, we need to continue to see store closures, whether it's what we're hearing about gymboreer rue 21. it should help l brands, too. >> so if i said give me your best name in the entire -- let's say apparel landscape because that's been obliterated. it's what? >> it's lulu, it's l brands .it's pvh with a 3. i want brands. if i'm going to play apparel, it has to be in the branded area. >> interesting. dana, it's good to talk to you. thanks again. >> thank you. >> dana telsey, you probably now by now, btig is holding its annual retail tail in in, city. bob pisani is there is a special guest. >> btig 15th annual event, raising $45 million for charity in the last 15 years. talk about fashion icons, tommy hilfiger joining us. tell us about the charities that you're representing here the today. >> well, it's -- the charity is called women of tomorrow. we mentor about 4,000 young women per year. mostly high school students and we help them get to a better place in life. we network with them, we give them opportunities, we show them how to look for opportunity. it's a pretty incredibl