. >> just down from where we're sitting, gymez's pelourinho studio.e been shut off. but he insists he's going nowhere. brazil is supposed to be about what, music, dancing, sun, hot women. does he reject those things? [ muted ]? >> [ speaking a foreign language ] >> i am in the wrong country. >> where would the perfect place be? >> rock city. >> rock city. that's detroit. >> detroit. >> detroit. >> detroit, rock city. what music inspires him? >> iron maiden. >> iron maiden. i think they're touring, actually. >> nirvana. >> nirvana. metallica? >> beethoven. metallica, beethoven. >> what do you think about all this? anybody who comes here recognizes immediately that this is a really uniquely extraordinary and, despite many problems, a uniquely wonderful, magical place. >> it's a magical place but also for us, for me and for him, here is a place where many people black people have suffered. there is still one kind of karma of this old history here, you know? >> so what is the real pelourinho? >> we are. >> we are. [ speaking foreign language ] [ speaking