the gyre spins clockwise.search institute, he says gyres are like plastic soup >> that's what they look like. >> reporter: in 2010 he sailed through the indian ocean gyre in the same area search teams are looking for doomed flight 370. >> what we found was fishing nets, multi colored buoys like the one behind me. lots of buckets and crates. other consumer goods like bottles and bottle caps and bags and forks and knives. so much stuff already there and the aircraft is blending into all that. >> reporter: which is one reason why locating the missing plane is such a challenge. satellite images once thought to be debris fields now floating garbage. recently they came across trash instead. even sea life can't tell the difference. fish, sea lions, birds, they all ingest this junk thinking it might be food. >> i hear there's talk about 300 plus pieces from the aircraft. there are 300,000 plus pieces of trash already there. >> reporter: the indian ocean gyre isn't the one that exists. there are two in the pacific and

five gyres because you've been to the five subtropical gyres in the indian ocean.ve been in this part of the world where they're searching. before we get to that, you brought me some props. show me. >> yeah, i brought you a few things from the five subtropical gyres. we saw in 2009 right through the search area from perth, australia. and you find the same kind of debris. there's lots of big stuff from the fishing industry. like fishing buoys. you can see the orange, yellow and black buoys. you don't know what these things are until you get in the water and pick them out and find they're fishing gear. this is a truck tire from the japanese tsunami. a year and a half after that tsunami, we sailed from tokyo back to hawaii and found this debris. >> so when you're out there, because i haven't been to this part of the southern indn ocean. when you're out there and you're out on a boat, are you seeing this junk surrounding the boat, or do you have to go to the gyres to see this stuff? >> well, they're kind of few and far between, though. the buoys and the debris. you'll

the gyre in the indian ocean is thought to be about 2 million square miles. keep in mind the entire united states is just under 4 million square miles. and this garbage patch is not just huge, it is on the move, traveling about half a mile per hour or about 12 miles per day and it may be carrying parts of the plane with it. >> it has moved away from the crash site, moved 150 miles by now. and it dispersed, as well. and it is joining background of other debris. >> reporter: leaving the search planes to try to catch up. randi kaye, cnn. >> and we have a short break coming up, set your dvr so you never miss a show, you up next, the tools used to take the search farther and deeper, we'll show you where they are and where they are sent to. >>> and later, coming up, the veterans, we owe them a great debt, and a new story reveals how badly promises were broken to patients. including this one's father-in-law. >> they called you and said. >> i said what is this regarding? she said we have a primary for him. i said really? you're a little too late, sweetheart. >> a lit

more specifically the indian ocean gyre, essentially a garbage patch overflowing with plastic. massive current spins counterclockwise. he says that gyres are like plastic soup. >> that is typical of what the material looks like. >> reporter: in 2010, he sailed through the indian ocean gyre, the same search area where the searchers are looking for doo d ed flight 370. >> what we found were buoys, buckets like the ones behind me, crates, consumer goods like bottles and caps and bags and forks and knives. there was so much stuff already there. so the aircraft is blending into all that. >> reporter: which is one reason why locating the missing plane is such a challenge. satellite images once thought to be debris fields? likely just floating garbage. recently a chinese ship in search of the airplane came across trash instead. even sea life can't tell the difference. fish, sea lions, birds, they all ingest this junk, thinking it might be food. >> you know, i hear this talk about there being 300-plus pieces from the aircraft. there are 300,000-plus pieces of trash already there. >> re

we have gone through all five subtropical gyres. there are five of these gyres.the north pacific one thing we found about five years ago, right in the middle of nowhere was this case. if you were -- if you had a satellite image and you saw this, you might think this might be a seat cushion. you could confuse this debris for objects that came from the aircraft. but a lot of what's out there is the fishing gear. here's a net we found near easter island. that's from an expedition a few years back. here's a shoe. a child's shoe. here's an oil can, deterrent bottles of all kinds. they are really chewed up by marine life. now the fishing gear is pretty common. the fishing gear is designed to survive in those environments. you find a lot of fishing floats and nets. the smaller stuff, it begins to break down rather quickly. it will degrade by sunlight and by fish bites and consumed by other life. here is a handful of cigarette lighters pulled out of the stomachs of albatross. >> and a lot of floating plastic chairs from beach furniture that float into the ocean. and so t

the gyre in the indian ocean is thought to be about 2 million square miles.nited states is just under 4 million square miles. and this garbage patch isn't just huge. it's also on the move. traveling about half a mile per hour or about 12 miles per day. and it may be carrying parts of the plane with it. >> it's moved away from the crash site. it's moved away maybe 50 to 150 miles by now. and it's dispersed as well. and it's joining the back you understand groh of other debris. >> reporter: leaving search teams to play catch-up as they try to track down flight 370. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >>> still to come on the "newsroom," the pope makes a phone call, and the world's catholics speculate. will the church soon allow divorced catholics to receive the sacrament of communion? our vatican correspondent delia gallagher is live at the vatican. good morning. >> reporter: carol, it's a hotly debated issue over here and one the pope's phone call has just made even hotter. we'll have more after this. cut! [bell rings] this...is jane. her long day on set starts with sh

it's the sub tropical gyre.nd in essence, the climate is very similar to the climate of the bahamas, or of bermuda. >> so it's warm? >> it gets colder in winter, but it's not that bad. i don't think that is really a problem. where they're searching now is actually a relatively easy place to search. >> thank you. thank you, both, gentlemen. my panel of experts are back with me now. steven marks, you heard what he said, this is a fairly easier, not easy, easier place to search. and on flight 447, which you know about, those data recorders took two years to find. if we don't find it soon, are we in for a years' long haul here? >> we could be. there's no guarantee it will believe found quickly. it's encouraging that we do have better assets, more assets and seem to have a team in place. so that's all encouraging. the difference here between 447 and this particular crash, or accident, is the fact that we don't have some of the information we had with 447. the acars messages were sent in realtime. we knew the general

we know about these gyres, the gyre that is spin here around australia, back to the other side of the australian continent, back to india. over and over and other. there's also a piece that breaks off and goes to the south and goes under australia and that, right there, is where that would land. this is all yes, yes, maybe, maybe. i tell you what, it's not impossible that this could be something from the plane. >> that's the keyword. that's why officials are taking a close look at the object and the photos to rule it in or out. a key part of any investigation. chad, thanks for that. >> i think one of the important things and erin is still with us, she's saying, yes, it is significant they are letting us know they have found an object, but erin, because of the criticism that the malaysian authorities have come under in the investigation, they are trying to be as transparent as possible. how do you think that is factoring in here? >> caller: i think, they said openly, that is a factor. they also said when it comes to these leads, they are vigorously pursuing them. the oil slick discover

you're still going to have the gyre effect which is sort of like a washing machine effect.nterclockwise. so that's going to be pushing debris in lots of different areas. >> just looking at these beautiful pictures of the we know coast of australia. it's not all that beautiful easy to spot beach, is it? >> it's not. one of the issues they will have unfortunately is what washes up, where it washes up. it's a very long coastline. if anyone finds it should there be people, if they find one piece it's very possible this would be a personal effect, which is a very difficult thing to fathom, but it's very possible. >> so you effectively have to talk about deference. somehow you've got to market this concept to anybody who might be in that western -- it's very desolate, but to be deferential with whatever they may spot. >> there is. there's a responsibility and sensitivity should you find any kind of debris that looks as though it would be in this case from wreckage. whether it be a seat cushion, personal effects that you would recognize this is probably belonging to a wreck or a s

are the gyres capable of becoming a positive ecosystem a manmade reef is it a word or some equivalent of it or are they just plain old flat poisonous toxic crap that should be there i think poison in the ocean is actually not a bad term what we know are the these these forms the debris particularly plastics pose very real impacts and we've all seen the iconic images of whales and sea turtles becoming entangled in reading these items but increasing evidence is starting to show that in addition to this choking or starving or on the bridge that they are absorbing the chemicals that are already out there seawater in that these toxins may be transferring into the tissue and blood of these animal is in potentially accumulating up the food chain and as we all know very well that it's just not tuna in whales and sharks at the top of the marine food web if humans are there is the exactly so a very big question is are these toxins are these plastics that are being ingested by these animals in the ocean potentially a threat to us at our dinner table well in one of the big categories of chemicals

this debris could be in this gyre for years and years and years and even end up back towards malaysiathink the plane came from, a big left hand turn. there is is a couple of showerers ashowerer s and fronts but winds are only 10 to 15 miles per hour. they can handle that. >> we are taking you in the water. now we are going to dissect the black box. we are going to show you everything from its pinger to what's on the inside, to how it works. plus malaysian airlines getting a lot of criticism for the way it's handling the missing plane. i will talk to an american crisis consultant. he advised airline leaders who have been blasted by frustrated families on a daily basis. peoi go to angie's listt for all kinds of reasons. to gauge whether or not the projects will be done in a timely fashion and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. now that we're expecting, i like the fact i can go onto angie's list and look for pediatricians. the service providers that i've found on angie's li

not the gyre. a little bit closer to home. closer to australia, there are some smaller currents. one here that could potentially take where we are now back toward australia and then down here to the leeuwin current. could it make it? that's about one-mile-per-hour. 1,000 miles. it could get there. there is nothing -- this has been the story of this plane the entire time. there's nothing that we can rule out. we can't say, no, that just couldn't happen. bluefin going on behind the ocean shield. there are pings here. if is where they believe the plane went down, guess what happened about ten days after the plane went down? a giant cyclone. 160 miles per hour right over the area down here where that plane went. we believe at least if anything was sticking up, that sticking up stuff would have been blown off to the west. here you go. there's ping location. it could get into the new current and along the coast of australia. it's certainly possible. 1-mile-per-hour and these crazy currents going every little direction back and forth and back and forth is not like the gulf stream that r

because there are gyres out there, there was a category 5 hurricane. it's called a cyclone, i get it. but it was 155-mile-per-hour cyclone above where the crash site was, where the potential site is. this is where the pings are. this is where the bluefin is going around looking for it. >> the first image you showed with all of those currents makes me wonder, 1,200 miles, so what, it's 1,200 miles of a curlicue path it would have to take to end up there and it just thwarts this whole concept. >> if you have a piece of debris, ashleigh, that just happens to be sticking out of the water a foot and then you blow 140-mile-per-hour wind on that, you have a sail. it's going to move more than 1 mile per hour, maybe 3, maybe 5, maybe 10. >> currents may not be as much of an issue. >> it may have gone faster. >> mikey kay, in all the years you have spend in the air flying, have you ever heard of anything that's metal with rivets and fiberglass-like on the other side? >> no, it doesn't to be honest. there are -- we don't know how the airplane reached its final de

and we've got these gyres that concentrate the plastic.terest to me that early in the search the satellites were picking up a lot of debris and garbage in the ocean. and i've been down at the bottom of the ocean. i've been to places that no one has ever been to before. it has not seen the light of day for billions of years. when i get there i find plastic on the sea floor. so we really do have a problem with trash in our oceans. and it's something that you do see deep sea. >> gentlemen, thank you. we appreciate your vng been here. >>> how long would you guess it takes to storm a cockpit? i'll show you a shocking demonstration. inspired by the freshness of the season, our chefs have created a new spring seasonal menu at olive garden. dive into our pappardelle pescatore with the best of the bay. salmon bruschetta grilled to perfection, or fall in yum with our chicken primavera made from scratch by our chefs every day and always served with unlimited salad and breadsticks. the all new spring seasonal menu now for a limited time at olive garde

from so many different angles as far as the weather is concerned, going from the roaring 40s to the gyre region. at this hour, the weather pattern looking as good as we've seen in the recent days but i want to show you something taking place to the northwest. a complex of thunderstorms is developing northwest of the search zone. that area has a low possibility of becoming a tropical cyclone in the next couple of days. we think a medium probability once you get into the latter portion of the weekend and the concern, again, 1700 miles to the northwest, there's the search area, roughly the size of the u.s. state of kentucky so still pretty significant region but that storm system models indicate it's going to travel to the south. there's the storm in the corner of your screen. notice a separate storm exiting this region. some low clouds in the southern tier of the search zone but generally speaking the weather pattern the next couple of days should cooperate with the searchers. we know mostly sunny skies, actually, come back into the forecast from friday into saturday. again, the models bri

world by selective excerpts of whatever religious text used through the event you're with the worship gyring, which is gods in our case. >> i've been traveling since 1980, and one of the memories # i have that's strong is from 1981 after the assassination of with whom you worked so effectively on a camp david agreement, and an egyptian enmy asked if god had been killed, that it was shameful that he let his wife dance with jimmy carter. it brought dishonor on muse leaderships. remarkable comment, but what it leads me to ask you is when we hear things like that that are so outside our cultural experience, how should we deal with them? did it ever occur to you when we asked them at the white house that you might be giving deep offense to muslims back home? should you worry about that? how do we deal with the problem really deep down of different cultures where we may be giving offense much greater than we realize by our actions. >> if i was asked that, i would have said well, anwar dances with my wife first. [laughter] one of the things mentioned in the book is they had all over the world, and

a special ceremony planned this afternoon to honor those who died and the survives who were gyred. today -- survivors who were injured. today's event will include a moment of silence. >>> three people were killed and more than 200 were injured on this day back in 2013. one suspect tamerlan tsarnaev was later killed in a shootout with watertown police. his brother dzhokhar the other suspect was pleaded not guilty to 30 count federal indictment that carries a possible death sentence. and today is tax day and only two post offices here in the bay area will be open a little bit later than usual. one is in oakland it's the main post office that's on 7th street. and the san jose main post office that's on l undy avenue they're going to stay open until 8:30. they collect mail from after 10:00 p.m. >>> a two alarm fire in san jose tore throw a townhome overnight. there is video from san jose fire department. actually that's -- shrimp boy. we're going to come back on camera here. and talk about this fire that started -- over a garage inside a garage down in san jose. kcbs radio's matt bigle

. >> yet the gyre in the event, the circular current. >> right. possible whales and other things. they've got to keep firmly on what they know in that particular area. >> you were very high on the seismic air gun earlier. >> perhaps i was wrong. >> never seen it yet. speaking of being wrong, let us segue into what is now being discussed. we did know that they believe that the plane made a left, went over kuala lumpur, over the strait of malacca, into the china sea and started to come south. they're still saying that. now they seem to have a new spin on what they think happened and why. tell us. >> if you see the way the map shows it, what it shows is it goes out from k.l., around and it's this bit here that becomes crucially important. the way in which it comes around, if we close it, you'll see it in more detail, it obviously skirts the northern part of indonesia, and it does so -- we know because they've said they believe the plane is being flown in a deliberate fashion. >> they've been saying that since the beginning. it confirms that this is m