the world based on your spirituality that will inevitably lead to conflict -- >> well, i side with h.g. wells who said self-righteous morality is just jealousy with a halo. [laughter] so i think any impose morality is immodest. but the religious experience which gives you an an experience of transcendence, of unity consciousness spontaneously brings about what we'll call platonic qualities, a yearning for platonic qualities; truth, goodness, beauty, evolution, peace, social justice, harmony, um, love, compassion, equianymorety. this is the religious experience that is a spontaneous expression of transseven dance, of being connected to the first cause, whatever you want to call it. so i think if you understand the religious experience, you know, had a religious experience. but i had a re-- buddha had a religious experience. and then, of course, the devil came and said let's institutionalize it, and we'll call it religion. [laughter] >> so you believe in the devil. >> i believe that everything has its opposite just like particles have antiparticles, the universe would be meaningless if i