only two have had a net negative image at this point and one of them loss, george h.w. bush and romney needs to improve that dynamic. >> democratic pollster. thank you very much to both of you. we have to get back in the field. let's keep poling. just two days away from friday's jobs report. we will get a quick preview on wall street on the market run down. and then we are taking a trip down memory lane. the good, bad and awkward from past debates. why the moments still matter today and are lessons to both tonight. >>> first who was the first presidential candidate to win colorado in a general election? we will give you the answer. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm

president george h.w. bush was caught glancing at his watch. president george h.w. bush was caught glancing at his watch. romney had notable fumb >> reporter: joking for instance that he multiple tie millionaire is unemployed. of course, diane, many voters made their choice because of early voting and absentee ballots. look at michelle obama with hers signed, sealed and delivered to chicago. the full:30 of likely voters will vote before election day. >> it is under way. thank you, jake, and jake and george stephanopoulos and the entire political team will be right here tomorrow night "one on one, the candidates debate" 9:00 p.m. eastern, 6:00 pacific. >>> and as we know that debate will be filled with questions about jobs and the future of this economy and today we saw one sign that an engine of growth is gaining steam. new numbers out today show consumers are spending more. retail spending up and part of the comeback, the housing market stirring to life. abc's cecilia vega tells us how much. >> reporter: it's the latest sign that america's rea

and cabinet secretary under president george h.w. bush and mr. and cabinet secretary under president george h.w. bush and mr. and cabinet secretary under president george h.w. bush and mr. and cabinet secretary under president george h.w. bush and mr. accused of what an incredible with unparalleled efficiency. he served with great authority and issues from stem cell research to jewish version patterns in presidential elections to human rights in north korea and such "new york times," "the wall street journal" and "washington post." he's an envoy for north korea under president george w. bush. in that position, george is known for his forthright criticism assembly of the north korean, but also china for failing to do more to assist a flight to freedom. she did not spare criticism either of the folks in foggy bottom. he was well known for criticizing state department policies that seem more concerned about preserving the six party talks on nuclear program stopping the nuclear program itself or promoting human rights in that country. but that any fu

the now famous rumble in richmond with then president president h.w. bush, bill clinton and ross perot. >> in terms of the recession, of course you feel it when you're president of the united states. that's why i'm trying to do something about it. >> it really is a pleasure to have you here with us today touching on that 1992 contest. clearly, the most at ease was bill clinton. >> i heard pundits talking about what may happen today and i don't believe anybody knows. the best laid plans of the campaigns, who knows what's going to happen. jim lehrer's questions may alter the course of events. we don't know if romney's going to get to use his zingers. we don't know if obama's going to press the 47% issue. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen. >> as a moderator, not only did you make history, you had to walk a very line, but what sort of pitfalls do moderators have to be wary of? >> well, you have, you can't, you can't think about what people are going to say about you. i tried to do my job as a good journalist, to be fair and to be objective and

the chief justice is george h.w. bush appointee. nine others from george wish, one from -- so we're not talking about some radical liberal circuit court. these injureses understand this is a violation of ohio's voting rights, and i will be surprised if the supreme court just prior to the election will hear this case, because it was an appropriately decided substantive decision, and in fact violates the rights. when you're saying military citizens can vote in a certain way, others cannot, that distinction was made, making exceptions, you cannot do that. as we all know under our constitution, the notion of expanding voting rights is the nature of this democracy, not reducing them. i find it extraordinary the direction the republican party has taken to decimate the franchise in this country. >> extraordinary is right, outrageous is right. i mean, congresswoman, this is unbelievable, especially when you find the republican appointees on the court that came to this decision. this is not a partisan decision. we're talking about people's b

president george h.w. bush believed strategically that ross perot would take votes from then challenger bill clinton. insisted onmpaign ross perot's inclusion. the commission first proposed his inclusion, and then they allowed him to purchase a bit in a single debate. it was only because george h.w. bush and clinton pushed for his inclusion. four years later, ross perot runs for president again. he had $29 million in taxpayer funds. 79% of the american people wanted to see him in the debates. yet, he was excluded. this time, the candidates wanted to keep him out. bob dole was desperate to keep him out of the debate because he thought that ross perot would take votes away from him. bill clinton did not want anyone to watch the debates. he wanted a non event. bill clinton of the two -- agreed to include ross perot on the condition that one of the debates was canceled, and the other was scheduled opposite the world series of baseball, and there were no follow-up questions. that is what the american people got. exa

george h.w. bush at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a weakness. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> and at that moment, a lot of people said well, there's the ball game. including his opponent. >> including walter mondale. >> what do you think about humor as a tool in this debate tonight? >> you'd better be a very accomplished actor like reagan or else it probably won't work. in that case, reagan said certain things that might have given rise to further worry he was too old to serve a seco

years later looking back, and i would say some of the most important things to know about george h.w. bush are that he not only helped end the cold war but made foreign policy not much an issue in '92 and also that he made a budget deal that provided the foundation for the prosperity of the 1990s. so 20 years later he looks awfully good. so on the extreme assumption that barack obama is a one-term president and we're not -- none of us today is going to say he is or isn't, 20 years from now people look back and oftentimes things that a president did that seemed obsessively important at the time later on seem trivial. it will begin with health care, and the question is did that program work or didn't it? >> you know, it seems like there's another element here, and that is when the supporters or the party of a president decides to make it a priority to enhance that president's legacy. i think of ronald reagan. that's the ultimate recent example. there was a point there in -- >> roosevelt was a democrat. >> i always remember 20 years ago there was a poll that came out that sounded like at that

and yet george h.w. bush went on to win the election. not just win the election, but win 40 states. 40 of the 50 states, george h.w. bush won in 1988. if anyone tells you what they know is going to happen on november 6th, i'd roll your eyes. a lot to talk about. two passionate guys representing the two ends of america's political, ideological spectrum. however, romney and obama lead the ticket. that's who people vote for on election day. >> passion and zingers and sound bites aside, in a 24/7 news cycle and only a couple days away from a very important presidential debate. how much sticking power will tonight have? >> a great question. one of the thingses that happens out of debates. what moments get replayed and replayed and replayed, not only on television but bounced around the internet, facebook, twitter. one or two of those without a doubt. the vice president's candidates, you'll hear the word middle class a lot tonight. have vice president biden try to bring the zest and energy that the president didn't bring to the first president

. >> the trickle down theory didn't quite work out for president h.w. bushwill it be an effective tool for mitt romney? more to the point, what does trickle down government even mean? we will investigate ahead. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> conventional wisdom says governor romney exceeded expectations and channeled a sensibility during wednesday night's debate. was he channeling a certain two term passionate conservative, possibly, but decidedly not this version. >> i wish they weren't called the bush tax cuts. they were called somebody else's tax cuts probably less likely to be raised. >> some other body's tax cuts. we'll examine how romney may have found his inner "w" ahead on now. [ male announcer ] when these come together, and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and whol

power to your mouth. >>> george h.w. bush of the vp debates, it's the toledo mud hens, it's not the big leagues. like the minors, vp debates are often a great show, but are they consequenti consequential? vp nominees aren't ren certain to deliver their home state. but they are key to knowing who will win the presidential race. in the first debate governor cartary's running mate walter mondale faced off against senator dole. >> i think senator dole has richly earned his reputation as a hatchet man tonight by implying and stating that world war ii and the korean war were democratic wars. >> you see a little more of that, you will see dole's disdain for the exercise is here. mondale won the debate and carter won the election. so that's once that the vp debate winner telegraphed november's winner. there was no debate in 1980 but in '84 there was one when vp bush and geraldine ferraro. >> let me just say, first of all, that i almost resent vice president bush, your patronizing attitude that you have to teach me about foreign polic

once upon a time affluent suburbs were solid republican territory, george h.w. bush in 1988 got big margins and carried states like michigan, ohio, california, in the four suburban counties outside philadelphia, he got 61% of the vote. zeroed out the democratic margin in the city of philadelphia. if you look at over the last 20 years, there's been a democratic trend in the affluent suburbs, and so president barack obama carried those four counties in pennsylvania with 57% of the vote if he carried the state. mitt romney grew up in bloomfield hills. >> a suburb of detroit. >> well, i grew up in the same area, went to the same high school so i'm quite familiar with it. he seems to be doing better. i if you look at the battleground poll -- the pew research poll where you have a big sample. so if you have a subsample you have some confidence the numbers are good. you see that romney, post-october 3rd debate, is carrying apparently statistically significant margins. people with incomes over over $75,000. barack obama carried them 15-49 in 2008. romney made bigger gains wi

we also want to watch to see if biden talks down to romney as george h.w. bush did to geraldine ferraro. and if he does, how he handles it. they're separated by a quarter century, different accomplishments and considerably different values. put it all together and by the end of the night, we're going to know an awful lot more about not only two candidates, but the state of both campaigns. >> the campaign's very close right now. the vice presidential debate could be very important. thanks for your insight. >> the xi familiaric of that debate is going to be interesting. >>> unemployment is sure to be a hot button issue at tonight's debate. we learn the number of people applying for jobless benefits dropped to its lowest level in more than four years. weekly unemployment applications dropped to 339,000. that's the lowest level since february of 2008. if that is sustained, if the drop could signal a stronger job market. >>> we'll be right back with the bay area team on ellen. >>> the boy scout that made headlines was today given a $20,000 scholarship from ellen dege

presidential debate of all time came when 97 million people tuned in to watch the debate between george h.w. bushdebate between clinton and bob dole in 1996 with 36.3 million viewers. as president obama and mitt romney went head-to-head explaining their tax plans, there was one name that came up in both of their answers. >> governor romney says the top 3% are the job creators burdened. under gov romney's definitions, there are a bunch of millionaires and bill nars. donald trump is a small business, i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything but that's how you define small business. >> the reality is, it's not just donald trump you are taxing. it's all the businesses that employ one quarter of workers in america, the small businesses taxed as individuals. >> you are surprised to know mr. trump reacted on twitter. he said as a big job creator, i was greatly honored to have been mentioned twice during the debate. donald trump. >>> let's turn to another political debate. jon stewart v. bill o riley. he called in stephven colbert. he was brought in by two shirtless handlers to get him ready f

george h.w. bush looking at his watch in 1992.ngers from ronald reagan that wounded jimmy cartener 1980. in the documentary "debating our destiny" jim went back to talk to candidates about their experience of the debates and had the chance to ask whether they prepared famous lines ahead of time. >> lehrer: i asked ronald reagan about, "there you go again," and a couple of others. "no, no, it just came to me." >> no it just seemed to be the thing to say and what he was saying up there. >> brown: did you believe him? >> lehrer: i don't know if i did or i didn't. i found it interesting that nobody wants to admit. >> brown: another major moment came in 2000 with vice president al gore rolling his eyes and loudly sighing during his debate with then-texas governor george w. bush. the whole world knew it,Ñi excet for the third man on the stage that night inÑi boston. >> you didn" know it was happening. >> lehrer: i didn't know it because under my personal rules, i ask candidatasm a question, ii look only at candidate a. i never look atÑ

during the '92 election, president george h.w. bushed of being out of touch with average americans after reports said he was amazed by the checkout scanner tech knowledge used in grocery stores. others say the story was exaggerated and unfair. the image stuck. the samier, dan quayle made headlines worldwide when he wrongly tried to correct the spelling of a 12-year-old student in new jersey. here's part of the report from the "today" show. >> potato. >> the boy wrote the word correctly but mr. quayle wasn't satisfied until he added an "e." >> you're right phonetically. there you go. >> quayle was wrong but claim that's the way it was spelled on the flash card he was given. >> it happens. then there was the photographic backfire in the 1998 presidential race when michael dukakis pictured writing on a tank in a campaign effort to present the candidate as strong on defense. we'll little you decide. and four years ago, governor sarah palin conducted an interview after the election, a few weeks after they lost the election, moments after pa

at the first town hall-styleepresidential ddbate in 1992, president george h.w. bushepeatedly checked his watth; a sign, some thought, that he diin't want to be there. commentators said bill audience to answer a question about the recession highliihted hii abiiity to connect with oterr. one thing that cannmakk ii hard for a candidate to be aggressiie, is a question ike this. the amount oo time the candiiates have ssent on thisscaapaignn trashhng their oppooents' is depressingly large. why can't your diicussions and complexity and the difficulty of the issuee to try to build a consensus aroond the best &pbe good for theepresident. he draw from that energy from the pnergy of the public and the his big challenges during this he's got to be able to ccme he 3 acrrss s connectinn, he's got caring, asslikeable. the candidate that makes a asking tte quustion is alsoo mmking a beeter connection the stakes couldn't be higher. athena jones, cnn, washington coming up in our hometown hotsp. hotspot...tte bigggst little taalgate party is here in town. what you can do... to join tte

in 1992 george h.w. bushas caught twice by cameras glancing at his watch during a town hall debate with voters which reinforced the suggestion he was disengaged and uninterested. >> when something is as close as it is now a small shift may create a forward movement in one direction or another. that's why these debates become great moments. >> see what happens tonight. that was bill plante reporting. coming up on cbs "this morning" a preview of tonight's presidential debate. we'll hear from senior advisers to the president's campaign and mitt romney's campaign. plus crash test dummies are getting a make over. we'll get a special behind-the-scenes tour at gm. that's the "cbs morning news." i appreciate you watching. i'm terrell brown. take care everyone. have a great day. the "cbs morning news." i'm terrell brown. take care everyone. ,,,, >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald . >>> good morning, everybody. it's wednesday, october 3. i'm frank mallicoat. >> i'm michelle griego. time now is 4:30. we'r

today, tell your friends the last republican presidential candidate to win the female vote, george h.w. bush. they favored him over michael dukakis by a single percentage point that day. the number of female voters xeeted every male voter in every presidential election since 1964. >>> all right, let's huddle up around the water cooler to take a crack at the conspiracy theories that were around after the release of the jobs report. >> folks, this .3% drop in the unemployment rate seems just a little too barely better to be true. >> maybe it's a coincidence. the month before the election we have a number that comes out .1 below when the president took office. >> i'm going to go with jack welch on this one. >> how convenient that the rate drops below 8% for the first time in 43 months, five weeks before an election. >> right back to where it was january 2009. >> folks? this is more than a quinhe coul incidence. >> what would explain why after unemployment has been steadily declining for the last year that now suddenly right before the election it declines a little more. please! i think we know

street journal"/nbc polling have had a net negative image at this point and one of them lost, george h.w. bush. and romney needs to improve that dynamic. >> reporter: romney got good news from three battlegrounds. in florida he is now behind by just one point. still way down in ohio. but in virginia, romney is down by just two. with a lot on the line in past debates, romney is doing well. >> going up against mitt romney is not a fun thing. he has the fax. he drills you. he stays. he is tenacious. >> reporter: and sometimes aggressive. >> the idea that i'm anti-immigrant is repulsive. don't use a term like that. >> reporter: aides admit barack obama in debates can sound like a professorial no-it-all. >> i understand the broader point that senator clinton has been trying to make over the last several weeks. >> reporter: tonight's format is from 2008. two podiums, moderator jim lehrer, 90 minutes, no breaks. a back and forth on domestic issues with possible fireworks. >> i think you're going to see both of them actually be more aggressive than either of their campaigns have predicted because the

presidential debate since carol simpson presided over a town hall style debate between president grneorge h.w. bush an bill clinton. >>> nuenough with the real news. let's talk about binders and as they relate to women. the school supply not to be confused with the trapper keeper is gaining notoriety and fame after mr. romney responded to a question about inequality for women in the workplace. governor romney recalled the time he was selecting cabinet members while governor of massachuset massachusetts. >> i mad thad the chance to pul together the cabinet and all the applicants seemed to be men. and i went to my staff and said how come all the people for these jobs are all men. they said these are the people that have the qualifications. and i said, gosh, can't we find some women that are also qualified? and so we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet. i went to a number of women's groups and said can you help us find folks and they brought us whole binders full of women. >> binders full of women. that comment b

bill clinton, ross perot and george h.w. bush. and he looked at his watch. >> the important part of that was before he looked at his watch, he misunderstood a question from a voter he -- she phrased it awkwardly about the national debt. bush kind of bobbled the question. and bill clinton walked over and said i think i understand what you're talking about. and he did. gwen: and the other one in which george w. bush on stage with al gore and al gore crowded him and gave him had th look and what are you doing here and moved on. it was very smooth. i find these debates to be interesting. one thing presidential candidates don't do that the presidential candidates do is sit down. they stay at their podium and that changes the nature of the discussion it seems to me. >> and makes the eye rolling and all of that more easier because you're siterring at a much more intimate setting with the vice president. gwen: so the president acknowledged it took him a couple of days that he had a terrible debate last week. he's acknowledged it in a coup

working to finesse his debate style hoping to avoid moments like this from 1992 when president george h.w. bush was caught glancing at his watch. romney has had notable fumbles when hanging with real people. >> i'm also unemployed. >> reporter: joking, for instance, that he, a multimillionaire, is unemployed. of course, diane, many voters made their choice because of early voting and absentee ballots. take a look at this picture of first lady michelle obama with her absentee ballot signed, sealed and delivered to chicago. our poll says a full third of likely voters will vote before election day. >> it is already under way. thank you, jake, and jake and george stephanopoulos and the entire political team will be right here tomorrow night, "one on one, the candidates debate," 9:00 p.m. eastern, 6:00 pacific. >>> and as we know, that debate will be filled with questions about jobs and the future of this economy, and today we saw one sign that an engine of growth is gaining steam. new numbers out today show consumers are spending more. retail spending up, and part of the comeback, the housing marke

candidate certainly since bill clinton has attacked the incumbent a candidate in his case george h.w. bush for being or for allegedly being too soft on what clinton called the butchers of beijing that was three years after the tiananmen massacre. but china seems to be a very popular scapegoat and it's not surprising that both candidates are are attacking china suggesting that its monetary policies are manipulating the value of its currency and so on and so forth and that they'll get very tough on china i suspect that the their candidates rhetoric on this can be taken particularly seriously especially romney who as a businessman who's invested in china knows its value to the united states and its importance in keeping the united states solvent to foreign. relations with russia one clear difference to the counter this is the positions old russia romney called moscow america's number one geopolitical foe my and this leadership of relations with moscow if he gets in. well again i think that's difficult to predict on the one hand you have realists on his team like that like who are not particul

china's door themselves recall that bill clinton one thousand nine hundred two running against george h.w. bush spoke at the beijing butchers but after the november one thousand nine hundred ninety two election he helped to usher china into the world trade organization that's the kind of what partner state but basically turned off a good deal of the u.s. electoral job from going to leave it there but thank you so it's cheryl hall and on the line all the stories much appreciated this is a short break to me to say with a business update for this said late wednesday night in moscow thanks for being with us. if you're passing through rushes to veer region you really can walk on the wild side thousands of kilometers of unspoiled countryside make up an area where it's still possible to live off the land and enterprising locals so the fruits of the forest by the side of nearly every road such spectacular scenery makes it a paradise for fisherman and provides a business opportunity for hunters going on he has been hunting for more than thirty years and works for a company providing expeditions for tour

door themselves recall that bill clinton in one thousand nine hundred two running against george h.w. bush spoke at the beijing pictures but after the november nineteenth to play to a lecture he helped to usher china into the world trade organization that's the kind of hot pockets need that basically turns off a good deal of the u.s. electorate how can you have a realistic debate about the problems that this country faces the many problems this country faces when the kinds of analysis and critique from the left are basically excluded basically this debate comes down in many ways to a choice between tweedle dum and tweedle dee nice way of putting it us historian gerald hole now ok let's get to business now u.s. jobs numbers are even not too bad news others are. not too bad preliminary report from a.d.p. says under sixty two thousand jobs were added in the united states in the month of september and therefore the markets they're looking positive we'll have to wait for a full report of course tomorrow on the news europe's market was also positive although the fact that spain's prime minister

years prior there was president h.w. bush checking his watch at the debates. these have become famous moments. are these debate prep teams telling their candidates, this is what you don't do? >> at this point in time they're emphasizing style as opposed to substance right now because debates that have changed people's minds have all been about physical characteristics and mannerisms really in the modern age and not about the substance of the policy answers, so they're paying a lot of attention to the style and not the substance. >> you can almost watch the debate with the volume down and determine who wins the thing. you point out something else and you were at this next debate. this was an image from senator kerry taking on an incumbent president, george w. bush and say by simply showing up, the challenger has a lot to gain. >> yeah, when they stand on the same stage as the president of the united states, then you basically become almost an equal at that point in time, and that race went from a seven-point lead to a one-point lead in 48 hours, and that's what

bush, george h.w. bush had a lot of friends. clinton and blair were thick as thieves. on their way to graceland there. so two is president obama's best friend in the world? you can't think of one. only guy i think of is this guy who played a president one time. there you go. a great question. >> greg: he played a president? >> dana: he did. last year. >> greg: i don't think so. >> andrea: i thought we'd put your best friend in the world. i love katy perry a lot. a lot. i can work out to "firework" and i heard the best version of the song. this is from too many stars, america comes together for autism. a little girl named jodie but they learn she has a beautiful gift of music. so she joined katy perry to do a rendition of "firework." take a listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ did you know there's still a chance for you ♪ ♪ there is a spark in you ♪ you've got to ignite ♪ let it shine ♪ for the fourth of july >> andrea: it's great. if you go online you can see her parents' story and how they worried about her. you have a child with autism an you think your dreams and they all die when you thi