marcoo rubio has beeeen the oneo whom trump basically outsourced venezuela policy. should make one thing clear of venezuela's role -- the u.s. role in venezuela. on the one hand, there is this intervention that is taking place, but on the otother hand, the largrger play here is not actually venezuela. what is happening vis-a-vis venezuela in terms of the u.s. and pompeo and bolton's vision is reasserting controlol over re agenda in latin america. basically, r reasserting hegemoy that have been lost under the pink tide. venezuela is the staging ground. but this is a much larger continental move that has drawn players like bolsonaro in brazil, macri in argentina to say, you know, we are now turning back to the pre-pink tide days where it was the united states that primarily set the agenda for what happened in latin america. juan: i would like to follow that up with steve ellner because even though many of the pink tide countries have now been replaced by more right-wing governments, latin america is not the latin america of old. it is no longer the u.s. backyard. chin