ambassador haass in the 6:00 hour. this is bloomberg. ♪ its moralted authority. >> it is quite clear to the public that this is a president who has actively encouraged this kind of behavior, because if he hadn't it wouldn't take place. >> this is not a case where you're dealing with something that came with no intelligence. if you open a newspaper last week, we saw they were boasting about coming to washington, to use the presidents word, going wild. >> don't dare use a word processor. ,hey were a violent mob domestic terrorists. >> the president needs to do some introspection as to whether what he did contributed, what his family did. >> repeatedly what is known, should have known where this will end. not only -- believing they would enrich themselves. i find it really very disappointing behavior. >> american democracy will survive, add none of our leaders will be intimidated. all-outleashed an assault on our institutions of our democracy from the outset. yesterday was the culmination of that unrelenting attack. >> i

gary, to pick up on richard haass's point about what comes next.ese societies, as you've studied these kind of divisions, alyssa slot kin said the external threats to america while still very serious have been surpassed by our internal divisions. so what happens next in societies like ours? as you watch these play out, what comes next? how do you put it back together? >> it is very important now to understand that trump's impeachment is about the future because america was very lucky that trump was such a buffoon, but such an incompetent narcissist made it all the way to the president. and trump, remember, trump is the weakest link because he would never -- it's not enough to beat trump, the next nationalist demagogue can follow his foot steps and surpass him by being much smarter. so it's important now just to fight trump as america is fighting covid-19 because america's being attacked by a dangerous virus at the same time, covid-19 and trumpism, which is a well-known mix of demagoguery, nationalism, and autocracy. we should try to make a trump va

and dr haass then why is it so difficult for social media companies like facebook to combat white supremacist recruitment by groups like maze out on their platforms we know that a recent survey from the anti-defamation league found that 61 percent of all americans believe that facebook and twitter are somewhat responsible and 75 percent of americans are worried about violent extremism. and. or we have a misconception we think about white supremacist organization in groups you know being clothed in white sheets but their eyes cut out you know walking down the street with torches in their hands and white supremacy we're going to the east and have become arson is to keep it comparatively speaking over the years and he also began to recruit younger individuals who have learned how to push messaging that's a lot more palatable so especially when they're in we're talking about. broadening their messaging and recruitment efforts at recruiting younger individuals in shows are as young as 11 you know in some cases and they are cooney individuals. to think in certain ways right if you carry out a messa

i would be surprised if richard haass -- he has said on the 100th anniversary of the council of foreignelations, it is the end of u.s. exceptionalism -- we are done. i don't think we are quite there. anyway, that is a little bit for me. zanny: so that this does not turn into a depression fast -- as the non-american here, first of all, i am not as pessimistic as either of you, particularly as ivo, and i would have shared your analysis 100% had donald trump won the election. arrow of liberalism, probably over, but he did not win the election. he will not be president after january 20. yes, we're all completely shocked by what has happened. yesterday may be more violence to come. yes, it is unbelievable, the scenes we are seen around the world and the u.s. capitol -- absolutely, god's mckinley -- god-smackingly depressing, but there will be a different president, different congress, a long period of rebuilding but it is in -- and immeasurably better situation than had he won the election. that alone gives me more optimism in the two of you are showing. second, this is a perspective -- i mi

. >> richard haass, when you start having a conversation about china, you never have enough time.ut six more follow-ups that i have, but i don't have enough time. as always, sir, thanks for coming on and giving us your expertise on this. appreciate it. >> thanks, chuck. >>> you got it, up next, the challenges of governing in a crisis as president biden prepares to roll out his covid plan. o hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home. ♪ ♪ this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain and clearer skin. proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis... ...with humira. humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage and clear skin in many adults. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and can

we might get an answer this morning on when haass speaker nancy pelosi plans to send that article across the capitol. she will speak live from there as one gop senator now openly saying the house was right to impeach the president. we're talking about one of the impeachment managers congresswoman stacey plaskett here live in just a moment. good morning, i'm hallie jackson in washington along with our nbc news team, tom costello over on the hill, dasha burns in lansing, michigan, maura barrett is in harrisburg, pennsylvania. tom, let me start with you. we confirmed a few hours ago that all of these security concerns, i mean, there is going to be a delay in a weekend inauguration rehearehearsal. i was down at the capitol yesterday doing some work. it is unbelievable. it is just striking to see these national guards troops posted up everywhere you look. >> reporter: yeah, 21,000 national guard troops will be here by inauguration day. now, according to the commanding general. to give you a sense of where we are, the capitol right behind me and we have gotten multiple layers here, multiple st

elise jordan, i'll let you take the next question to richard haass.y surrounding not just navalny himself, his heroism, but the people of russia rising up. >> and, richard, i'm just curious how you see this evolving and how the biden administration is going -- what kind of challenge it presents to the biden administration? and it's a little bit surprising that vladimir putin is being so bold and so -- and cracking down so forcefully when there is a new cop in town when it comes to the united states. >> well, i think what's going to happen on the ground is navalny is going to stay in jail. people will come out this sunday, maybe the sunday after this. but sooner other later what i'm worried about is authorities will grind down the opposition through brutality and through arrests and unlimited detention and rigged trials. putin -- what's so interesting is the scale of these protests across the country, how many people are so brave, putin is increasingly unpopular. there is no real economy. the pandemic is having a real effect. but so long as security fo

. >> you are looking at things like this piece by richard haass of the council on foreign relations,are you seeing signs that global investors in fact are pulling or at least holding back? >> well, as incredible as it may seem, carl, we are slowly and possibly going from a situation where we are the safe haven to where we are actually a risk factor among global investors because of the political turmoil that occurred last week in washington and that may, in fact, be on going. you are talking about the stock market hitting all-time highs. that's great often it's the bond markets that's the most telling. if you look at the ten-year treasury in the first five or six trading days of this calendar year, it's backed up 25%. and that's a very, very swift move so what i have been hearing is that a number of sovereign wealthy fund investors who typically turn to the u.s. very quickly and easily at a moment of political turmoil to invest their many, many dollars are thinking about maybe holding back now because of the political turmoil here that's very telling. >> so you are drawing a line bet

. >> richard haass, thank you very much. >>> still ahead, one of joe biden's first tasks as presidentll be joined by biden's pick to lead the department of health and human services, xavier beccera will join us. >> i member guys were stripping me of my gear, rioters pulling my badge off my chest. they ripped my radio off of my vest. started pulling like ammunition magazines from their holder on my belt. some guy started getting ahold of my gun. they were screaming out, you know, kill him with his own gun. >> good god. a firsthand account from one of the officers attacked during last week's insurrection at the capitol. >> let's stop here and say good morning. happy friday. happy january 15th. that's the last happy news we have today. >> that's it. >> because let's just tick through a couple things that we heard over the past couple of days. one, willie, we heard that officer say kill them with his own gun, right? we know that members who voted to impeach donald trump, republican members now are running in fear for their lives. and by the way, that's a constitutional remedy. it's in the