i started out hachette books. before we were grand central, we were owned by time warner, and we were warner books. we had to completely change our identity. and, you know, i think that's true throughout the industry. to have clout you need to be big. but you do want to be small enough and is we're divided into divisions. my company has grand central, we have a christian division down in nashville, we have little brown. you want to be small enough so that you can give authors attention, and you can, you can really focus on books. so it's, you know, it's a back and forth between, you know, trying to be a big company that still retains, as susan said, an intimacy. >> host: and if you're interested in the publishing industry and want to talk to our two publishers, phone numbers are up on the screen. you can dial in, 202 is the area code 748-8200 if you live in the east and central time zones 748-8201 for those of you in the mountain and pacific time zones. we'll get to those calls in just a minute. susan weinberg, ho