emily: the amazon-hachette war, you are published by hachette, you and your books got caught in the middle. how do you feel about this? malcolm: it cost me a lot of money. that's for sure. it breaks my heart a little. i had thought of amazon as in partnership with writers. and for a company to try to make a business point by turning its back on -- i have sold, through amazon, millions of books. i have contributed mightily to their bottom line. i would've thought they would see me as an asset. me and other writers have brought people to their site in droves. and now they have turned on us. it is, to say the least, a puzzling strategy for a business to turn on its assets. i would love to have a conversation with jeff bezos about the self-destructive nature of this particular strategy. emily: amazon is arguing that books must be cheaper in this environment where there are so many media distractions. do you have any sympathy for their argument? malcolm: complete sympathy for it. i just don't understand why, in order to get to that preferred outcome, they have chosen to screw over the people wh

stacy: it was a photo shoot done by genius creative director and -- at has shipped -- at hachette.hree girls who met in a downtown studio in new york all the dress was authentic. and they were put through a series of poses. the sins of having the asymmetry and emptiness to the side seemed to make more sense. brian: did you get to approve it? stacy: we got to talk about it but it was the publisher's call. the way the girls capture your eye and it's unclear from the title if it they are the witches or who the witches really are seems to be a rather arresting jacket. brian: the last in your hear you had three children, still have to read? how old are they? stacy: 15, 22, 24. brian: and your husband lives in canada? stacy: that has not changed. he still does back and forth. brian: can you tell us about your next book? stacy: i cannot because when i come back, you cannot say i did not finish on time. no, but i'm open to ideas. brian: you finish on time. stacy: approximately. stacy: brian: and you have no idea what his next? stacy: i have a bit of a glimmer. once you start to go down tha

one woman who knows is the chairman of hachette beauty and the chairman of playboy enterprises.efner is here. last time we were together was at the aspen institute. let's start with politics. i know you are involved in your hometown of chicago. , someoneness leader who sits on the boards, what did you think of last night's debate? not happy that there was not a clearer explanation of immigration reform. years ago, mike bloomberg and bill daley will traveling the country speaking to business leaders about how important it was that we solve this. at the time there was a bipartisan bill being developed by marco rubio, chuck schumer, a large group, that seems very promising. now, almost across the board, the republican candidates have not only backed away from that, but taken positions that i think are not only not particularly , or humanely, motivated, but they are not good business. betty: you mean donald trump shipping 11 million immigrants out of the country? christie: that alone would cost $100 billion, let alone who would pave or the wall. i thought that was disappointing. als