things like hackathons or cyber patriot competitions. are national competitions that students can engage in every university in the nation that has cyber programs, computer science engineering will have these opportunities. to push that down into the high school level is very important. that is beginning to happen. a lot of our students from high schools in the region, there is a high school club that does hackathon. they learn how to, raises awareness of cyber cybersecurity issues. all the programs are very important. we hold for example, career fairs and go out to the high schools and try to also use our current students to go back to their high schools and to engage with their student clubs to be sure that students are having these opportunities to see that they can have a lot of fun with this as well. that is certainly, the programs are not interesting we won't succeed in getting student to come into them. the students really, if you just, at george mason university alone there is probably about a dozen different cyber groups that st

the other thing we're trying to do is create innovation by doing hackathons by bringing people together for a couple of days from different backgrounds to solve a specific challenge. doing it in the muslim communities with muslim identity and life. we have done these around the world and we will start to do them in america. we did when all the w -- abu dhabi. we are doing when it's look on valley. we look to future ones on cultivating muslim storytellers. we want to try to see the environment. what we found is that it is not about skill or talent, but confidence. it is about feeling that you can do it. that is the number one barrier for most people. we realize that once again people into the situation and we live stream their result and we find the winners of making a developed. they could do amazing things. we are hoping in the next couple of years to start spinning out companies and ideas and initiatives. the first couple of apps come out early next year. that show that there is a lot of talent in this group of people. we have a lot to give the world. show that muslims are not just a