. >> rose: gene hackman. at some point gene hackman is taking the small town boys to the big city in indianapolis and never played on a big court. he walks in, measurers the distance of the court and the height of the basket, it's the same. he tells his players, the court's the same. i relayed that to the guys. i said, guys, the court's the same. this is a mission you've done hundreds of times before. just go do your job and we're going to be just fine. again, they did that and did it magnificently. >> rose: but in terms of your career, the idea of warrior means what to you? >> well, you know, i think it means a lot of different things, actually. i mean, i came in at a time when we had relative peaks. i came in in 1977 while we had desert shield and desert storm and i participated in that. we had panama, bosnia, kosovo. i didn't have a chance to participate in either one of these. but there was nothing quite like the action that occurred, you know, from 9/11-on. but as i watched, you know, my peer group, if y

i said get gene hackman because gene and dustin hoffman and myself were doing a play up at the berkshire drama festival where arthur lives and where i first met arthur. he came and saw gene and said perfect, perfect. and faye i didn't know at all, wanting to be a big movie star, and warren i didn't know at all. no. >> ingrid, what's it like to have estelle parsons, you know, heading up the jury? >> it's a dream, you know? i don't know if i have mended, like it's -- yeah. i was very fortunate enough to talk to her the first time we met, and she was very excited right off the bat. i didn't have to prove anything. >> well, we're all interested in the same thing, aren't we? >> yeah, i think so, yeah. >> yeah. >> it's our passion -- >> yeah. the films are amazing. far, and they're amazing in what they say about life and the complex problems of life and the violence that's in, you know, killing us. and also about wonderful people, steven lang who has a wonderful show about medal of honor winners, has a film about him in it. all kinds of stuff, wonderfully varied program. really great. >> is it

at some point in time gene hackman is taking the small-town boys to the big city and they have neverlayed on the court bigger than a gem. he says measure the distance of the court. it's the same distance. same height of the basket. the court is the same. i relayed that to the guys. the court is the same. this is a mission you have done hundreds of times before. just go do your job and we will be fine. they did that and did it magnificently. charlie: in terms of your career, the idea of war means what to you? mr. mcraven: i think it means a lot of different things. i came in at a time when we had relative peace. i came in 1977. i participated in a number of wars. bosnia, kosovo. there was nothing quite like the actions that occurred from 9/11 on. as i watched my peer group, the folks i grew up with and how we do find warriors, first and foremost it was a sense that you were willing to be in the fight, regardless of what the fight was. you were prepared to sacrifice your life for your fellow seal and your country. that i think is the essence of being a warrior. when i first joined the