. >> me necesita, para llegar a haddad, y yo lo necesito para salir de este país con vida, por que noarmas haganlo . >> [llanto] . >> (♪ ♪) . >> [llanto]. >> (♪ ♪) . >> el esta loco coronel . >> es todo lo que tenemos . >> [llanto] . >> dios mio . >> calmate. >> no quise involucrarlos. >> regresme con el . >> dime que hay contigo y lo que has hecho ? . >> solo eh matado malos, . >> hemos sido engañados, la misión era una estrategia , era mantener un dictador , . >> scot no esta involucrado . >> se ah comentado algo? . >> me dijo que no sabia las mentrias, que creer . >> creer. >> el saldrá de este baño de sangre con vida, confia en el . >> nunca lo supiste . >> me rendi contigo . >> gracias por obligarme a elegir . >> por que shannon asesinaria a smith ? . >> no ,. >> creo que lo hizo buscando respuestas . >> eso significa que debmos encontrarlo . >> van a creer que ustedes están invoucladros. >> quienes son ellos la agencia . >> muchos hacen tratos por fuera . >> como lo manejamos . >> en directo . >> debes estyar asustado por lo de tu esposa . >> lose . >> discute con ellos pero sal

hour for a third speaker will be assam haddad from the department of international affairs at george mason university. he is also a visiting professor at georgetown university. finally, myself, i teach arabic at georgetown university. i will be the last speaker. >> thanks, everyone, for attending. i am glad to speak in tandem with my colleague, jim collins. somewhere between the ousting of ben ali on january 14th and egypt and january 25th, he and i initiated a conversation about how he has a historian of early modern europe and i -- >> get the microphone. >> would situate the tunisian and egyptian protests. historically and theoretical as well as contractual terms. these exchanges were somewhat complicated by the pace and magnitude of the events and it is beyond question the recent developments in tunisia and egypt marked a watershed in the history of the two countries with fundamental implications for the political landscape of the region as a whole and by extension for its relations with the world at large. from the perspective of historians in north africa the repeated consensus

i had a question for professor haddad. for bassam, we had revolt against colonialism. can this be seen as a revolt against neocolonialism? and to the professor, of the different paradigms you give us, how should we take stock of the post-world war ii american discourse on human rights? where is the place in what is going on in egypt? >> well, i mean, i think part of the dichotomy we've been mentioning at the level of academia policymaking is not entirely driven simply by a world view but by hard political calculations and it's obviously been one of the great tensions in american foreign policy, that when it comes to certain strategic areas, it's not certainly a question of shah shapes policymaking but of hard calculated interests so i don't necessarily see this as an essential nature that cannot change over time and we're witnessing over here at the level of the administration depending on how you interpret or the day before whether this was -- this was a personal freelance opinion or an inert diplomat. and this is how the region is interpreted but how these interpreta

the previous idea on peacekeeping missions these are forces that there blew haddad and not let terry forces. they're there to provide insurance but with the presence of artillery suddenly they become much more muscular. this was the beginning then of talking about a real nato role because if you are going to talk about real forces and you need real command and control and really just takes, and real reconnaissance and intelligence not just dance of soldiers with blue helmets. and so, then in the summer of 1995, after the schirripa nature massacre everyone got serious. we began also to deal with nato as the alliance and talk about a prospective nato role in the occupation. >> you know, you talk about period after the agreement. there was a lot of skepticism urgently about whether this could hold. india and in the book richard holbrooke to shreds the first month is rocky and yet it has endured probably more than many people expected at the time. what allow this to ultimately take root? >> first of all, i think that people wanted to have peace. the killing there was really dreadful, and