i found his research hadden broad range of people he talked to. that was one of the problem with all the devils are here. the narrow range of people, a really 1-sided view. your reporting instincts and quality of your reporting comes through to me as i read the book. bob talked about jim johnson in the study that was done so the conclusion was if we don't give up the charter, we have to hug the charter. to protect the charter at all costs and jim johnson was the one that came up with a strategy that said the way to do that is affordable housing because the only regulator, the real regulator was congress. they were the only ones who could change the charter and if you could basically coopt congress and capture them through affordable housing, then you would protect your charter and do all the things from earnings perspective that they when on to do. y. johnson? a friend of mine who had been at fannie in one of the regional offices said it was very simple. fannie hadden near-death experience on interest rate risk and they thought they had solved thr

if costas hadden brought it up, would he have been doing his job? >> i think he was not doing his job. i think -- i think -- i think you can actually be upset that he did it and still agree, if this makes sense, with the idea behind it. in other words again, i think nbc needed to put commentary on it. i think they needed do it. but for those who want sports to be the escape, they're angry, right? they want the moment get way from the real world frl but here's news. you cannot get rid of real news in the sports world. >> you're right about that. sports is a microcosm of society. bob costas, christine brennan, myself, i like to go deeper in the games, but sunday night football in meshlg has essentially become monday night and everybody watches. bob costas has done so much good work on his show, on other shows, there could have been a different vehicle for him to get his thoughts across. that's all i thought. >> one of the reasons that sports come men tarots being popular is because they have broad appeal, because they can appeal to democrats and repub

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