hadley, i am hope tag my point that -- hoping to my point, colleges will learn there is no free money from washington that emboldens you to keep screwing kids, i think if they know in is no more money at the well they increases.this drip, drip of >> right. i say let the individual students, and families decide what is a good investment for some people, we're all individuals, if there is one thing that is true we pay more for things we try to pay forking it. neil: we have it mixed up, all i know that my plumber has people, his people have people. that he is doing something right. i do agree you know with this notion. that it is a sticker shock, you double rates on people that are used to raaes low,y could say the same about medicare tax, when it was put back in was it a sticker shock, i get annoyed whether we force ibly try to fix going that creates a bigger fix? >> i mean, in this case, everyone can look at president obama, and i suppose the republicans and democrats on the hill, say this is one of the consensus are not getting a big 10 year budget deal, this is an emergency that stud

i got in to see steve hadley. he read it. he said no, we don't talk to them. that would be rewarding bad behavior. i was in and out of the white house in 20 minutes. not a single question was asked of my trip, who i had seen, how i had gotten the message, why they sent it and that kind of behavior on our part is just not going to get us anywhere with north korea. >> let's go right to the back. right to the back beside the camera. >> hi. my name is elory gordon. i spent a lot of time trading with china early on and my question really is, nobody really addressed the trade issue. why aren't we going to them with some apartheid trade representative? we had something called 807, though you would probably know about that. we traded with mexico. we cut fabric in the united states and allowed duty at this preference to products that came in from mexico. why can't we do something tripart tied with south korea, north korea and united states opening to markets to goods manufactured under those circumstances? >> you know the reason is, sanctions don't permit it. what you'

. >> hadley has a point there.ebrities have to convince young people who are healthy and who don't want health insurance to go out and buy it or go out and get a subsidy. that's going to be a tall order even for celebrities, isn't it? >> certainly celebrities aren't going to be able to force someone to buy health insurance but that's not the aim here. the aim is that they're going to reach those people who are otherwise not engaged in even knowing about the health care law and the options that are available to them. in that sense i think the celebrities can be uniquely effective in a very cost-effective manner. think about it. there are lots of ways to do outreach. most of them cost money. what the white house is doing is leveraging the free impact of celebrities and their social media channels to do something that is very cost effective and i think is going to succeed more wildly than anything that the health and human services could come up with as far as outreach is concerned. >> i have to say i'm suspicious. so

stephen hadley was george w. bush's advisor.he is now a senior adviser for international affairs at the u.s. institute of peace, at the center for american progress, pushing for credible afghan elections in 2013. carnegieh the endowment for international peace. previously lived in kandahar, since 2001, working as a journalist running an ngo. he helped found the free elections foundation of afghanistan. i appreciate that he just arrived in from cobble -- kabul. with that, again, we will include all of your testimony into the record. we ask our witnesses, if they are leaving, that they can engage the press outside, so we can continue in the hearing. your full statements will be entered into the record. mr. hadley, we will start with you. >> thank you, mr. chairman, members of the committee. i want to express my appreciation for the opportunity to offer my views on the status of the afghan transition. my own,s expressed are and do not represent the united states institute of peace, which does not take policy positions. my recent in

peter levoy, stephen hadley, former national security advisor, from election foundations free elections foundation in afghanistan and sarah chayes, carnegie endowment for international peace. i asked a basic threshold question which they all agreed and i wonder if you do. that question was, is it their opinion that the strong majority of the afghanistan population want there to be a residual united states and nato force post-2014. they all said they believe ad strong majority of the afghan population wanted that. is that your sense as well? >> it. adam: senator. all our opinion polling and our work across the political spectrum in afghanistan supports that view. >> and just, i know from your background that you have been deeply involved in questions about iraq as well. was there similar polling done or similar effort to undertake what the iraqi population sense was about that question? >> i don't, i don't know that, i don't know that there's a close parallel with iraqis experience in this regard. there certainly was among the two political classes. the two political elites, the two sets

hadley, we will start with you. >> thank you.members of the committee, i want to express my appreciation for the opportunity to offer my views. express are my own and do not represent those of the united states institute of peace, which does not take policy positions. ,s my recent involvement convened in 2000 11 and 12 by u.s. ip and the center for american progress. our senior working group concluded the u.s. government's objective in afghanistan should be a relatively stable afghanistan that does not slide back into civil war, destabilize its neighbors, or once again become a haven for transnational terrorist. and prosperity for afghanistan is at stake. element tosential achieving stability, peace, and .rosperity a stable,t be prosperous region free from care unless these can be achieved in afghanistan. the problems associated with achieving stability in afghanistan have been exacerbated by the general strategies among afghans and their neighbors partly the result of uncertainty regarding the extent to which the u.s. is committ

i got in to see steve hadley. he read it and he said no we won't talk to them.that would be rewarding bad behavior. i was in and out of the white house in 20 minutes and not a single question was asked if my of my trip, who i had seen, why they sent it and that kind of behavior on our part is just not going to get us anywhere with north korea. >> steve let's go right to the back. we have a question right in the back. >> my name is valerie gordon. i have spent a lot of my time trading with china early on and my question really is nobody has really addressed the trade issue. why aren't we going to them with some sort of it tripartite trade incentive? we have a president, something called 807 though you probably know about that. that is where we traded with mexico and the united states and allowed to the preference to products that came in from mexico. why couldn't we do something tripartite with south korea north korea and the united states opening its market to manufacturing under those circumstances? >> you know the reason is that sanctions don't permit it. what

hadley some of the reason people like people do stay in school and get an education, the fact that theyncomes elsewhere, the same thing does happen between countries. mice research and the research of others show that the education decision, the extent and the specialties of education decisions of a lot of young people in developing countries are shaped by the opportunity to migrate, the option to migrate, even if not exercise. the bottom line on this is and this is going to sound like a strong state, but i know this literature so i can say definitively, that there is no piece of evidence in the economic literature that any race on earth was ever developed primarily due to restrictions on any place onhat earth was ever made healthier by recessions on movement of health professionals or any of the effects you might imagine from restricting people's movement. it makes more sense when we contemplate the real effects of a policy like trapping people in a low income neighborhood. now i want to talk briefly about effect on people at the destination. i can cut this pretty short other guests ha