hadley: i think it can be turned around, no matter who is president.om and i will probably disagree on this. about aam less worried reelected president trump pulling out of these alliances. i think there are a lot of people who, in his administration, who understand that particularly in a competition with china, the big advantage we have is our treaty allies, but also friends and folks with whom we have security and other relationships. this is a huge and important u.s. resource. if you are worried about competition with china, the last thing you want to do is throw it away. what the president has tried to do is get the allies to do more. that has been an objective of democratic and administrative -- and republican administrations for years. the president is more threatening about it. we can discuss about whether that was the right tactic or not. in some respects, he has gotten some results out of nato, in terms of them increasing defense expenditures. look, this is a president who was elected to be a disruptor. in so many ways he has been. i would hop

hadley talk about the main threats to national security and discuss the coronavirus pandemic and u.s. policy toward china and russia. this event was held virtually due to the coronavirus pandemic is about 45 minutes. >> welcome back everyone. thank you for joining us for our second afternoon here and virtual aspen. i am very pleased now to welcome to the stage steve hadley and tom donilon who served as national security advisors for our country and to immediate administrations following each other. and jim, will serve the quick introduction, there's tom popping up hello how are you. and there is steve, hi steve how are you? >> tom of course needs no introduction he is currently the chairman of the black rock investment institute and senior counsel at o'malley and myers. he serves as a national security advisor for obama and also headed the obama/biden transition of he is a veteran of many democratic campaigns and of course serves on multiple. [inaudible] steve hadley served as the national security advisor for resident george w. bush from 2005 to 2009. he's a deputy from 2001 to 2000

charles: absolutely, hadley. six children. i hear you. always appreciate it. talk to you real soon. >> of course, thank you, charles. charles: hours after slamming china in the rnc speech, secretary of state mike pompeo tweeted this message to beijing. the united states is dismayed to learn that the chinese communist party continues to bully our british friends and their corporate leaders. he went on to right, we must not allow the beijing's campaign of bullying. how exactly do we fight back against china? i want to bring in hudson institute senior fellow rebecca heinrichs. you and i exchanged emails. there was an interesting article in the japan times about a more collaborative effort. it is clear china is lashing out. they're using their waste and really pressing europeans, another warning today to nokia and ericsson, if you don't, if you do anything against huawei we'll stop you from doing other business as well. what is the solution here? >> yeah that, article you referenced by eric sayers, an analyst talking about what the united states needs to continue

jackie: hadley, is the timing on this interesting?dent uses twitter a lot and there is a lot of talk about censorship and changing the rules or not and you have dorsey doing something like this during the pandemic at a time by the way the unemployment benefits just expired and congress hasn't been able to propose anything else for the time-being? >> yeah i think the plan ultimately coming from the private sector is going to be a reminder that we rely on the private sector in so many different ways with a small scale experiment like this, the first city to experiment with a universal basic income was stockton, california. we already begun to see some results a very small initial group of people received the cash payments. i think americans across the board are looking for innovative solutions during a time that is unprecedented. we're in uncharted territory with the pandemic and restrictions public health concerns between people and their work. this could be one potential innovative solution. i would like to see more private action, mo

let's get to hadley gamble lebanon was already dealing with a horrible crisis.us through the repercussions there. >> caller: you are right it couldn't have come at a worst time most of the folks i've been speaking to seem to just be resigned to a feeling of hopelessness as a result of what we've seen essentially, these explosions took out the entire port area. this country imports over 80% of their food and they were already struggling to pay for that following the u.s. dollar upwards of 80% the central bank and other members of this government that's been in place and in constant talks saying multiple times, the country has to stem some of the bleeding listen to what the prime minister had to said yesterday following the blast. >> translator: what happened today will not pass without accountability those responsible will pay the praise this is a promise for the marters and injured. this is a factual statement. the depot that existed since 2014 >> caller:s that the prime minister essentially saying there is more to this than meets the eye. at this point, all we

government to me through morally because not getting rid of control that the leader of your party mr hadley in the heat in a will challenge president a guy who wrote in a column that the sacking of the central bank governor he called it a now this sad development for zambia what is happening in zambia. it is an honest i don't mistrust everyone knows that i'm just going through severe economic problems. not just because of the corporate 19 like everyone else but because of the extraordinary amount of states indebtedness not shunned. and at this time one would have expected not to talk with this if you're going to be problems good experience. would have been required like that don't expect the governor to steer around this problem and this is a man that was even during the week. dazed twins i'm beer and man i live in countries where everything digital is part of the team that's good so i'm going to let it be less so is an experience month to deal with issues like ok rushing to dig in to take him out it's time for us to decide to fund ok i mean this is this is the behavior off i have a preside

elections there will be regional elections coming up in 3 weeks from now and while any has developed hadley effective strategy for abortion there wouldn't barkin those so actions it happened last year the last year was extremely. important breakthrough in various regional elections including in moscow that's my number only spent so much time in jail last year and apparently government was very nervous regarding the election there this coming up the number only was still is a very fact of communicator his you tube channel his weekly you tube channel is watched by millions of people in of course the government the m one him to be on air in the coming weeks. until this election professor what can you tell us about his current condition what have you learned. anything except for what is and what is being reported and and this is what you've just covered in your peers and and we just know that he's unconscious and we don't know. what exactly caused. you mentioned just before that there were 2 attempts on his life that were never investigated easy you believe given the international attention to

governments truly true morally because it's getting out of control that they are all fuel pazzini and mr hadley in the he to name a would challenge the president a guy who he brought in a con and that the sacking of the central bank governor and he called it a now this sad development for zambia what is happening in zambia it is an honest i don't mistrust everyone knows that i'm going through severe economic problems. not just because of the corporate 19 like everybody else but because of the extraordinary moment today it's indebtedness not shunned. and that this time one would have expected not to talk with this if you're going to be problems good experience. would have been required like that don't expect you governor. to steer around this problem and this is a man that was there even during the. days when zambia and minot african countries where you're going to judge was part of the team that's good so i'm going to let it be less so is there no experience month to deal with issues like ok rushing to dig in to take him out this time of year sort of such that it was on the ok i mean this is th

joining me for further analysis, policy director for independent women's forum, hadley heath manning. want to go over some of these things. start with overall taxes. kamala harris, forget 21%. let's go back to 35%. i get joe biden a more moderate talk, but i simply do not believe that a president biden could push back against the power and might of the progressives in his party, particularly when he wants to spend a lot of money. i don't think he would stop at 28% on business taxes. i think he would go to 35%. >> i think there are two critical questions here, charles and one, of course is, at the end of the day which party controls not just the white house but both houses of congress. of course we're having congressional and senate elections this fall as well. that will determine a lot of the policy agenda of any white house moving forward. what they can or cannot get done. the second question of course, is the future of this pandemic and impact on the economy. i think it will be much harder to pass a tax increase or justify it when our economy is still weak and unemployment numbers a

hadley says it's made it more difficult to fight the fire. >>they were shuffling filling up a 500 gallon. trucks fire trucks. they scored him and then they have to go back to the golf course to replenish them and they were they they were so limited with their water resources working alongside a limited crew hadley says he and cal fire were able to save multiple homes, but others weren't so lucky. >>well, i mean we're devastated. so this is just everything says. almost my entire life in a this is the home i grew up in here. and this is the home for about 3 years where i'm raising my son and with my wife and will and his family evacuated early last week saying he never consider his home would actually be taken. >>now as my biggest regret really because i was our last chance to get any and everything we could and we just kind of figured we didn't realize. obviously what was going to happen or on memory lane by the way which now has sold just and a lot of places nothing but memories so it's kind of in that sense. >>in other news this morning pres

hadley says it's made it more difficult to fight the fire. >>they were shuffling filling up a 500 gallon. trucks fire trucks. they scored him and then they have to go back to the golf course to replenish them and they were they there were so limited with their water resources working alongside a limited crew hadley says he and cal fire were able to save multiple homes, but others weren't so lucky. >>well, i mean we're devastated. so this is just everything is says. almost my entire life in a way. this is the home i grew up in here. and this is the home for about 3 years where i'm raising my son and with my wife and will and his family evacuated early last week saying he never considered his home would actually be taken. >>now as my biggest regret really because i was our last chance to get any and everything we could and we just kind of figured we didn't realize. obviously what was going to happen or on memory lane by the way which now has sold just and a lot of places nothing but memories so it's kind of in that sense. and so sad. >>well let

stay back next former national security advisor tom trent under donilon and steven hadley talk about the main threats to national security and discuss the coronavirus pandemic and u.s. policy toward china and russia. this event was held virtually due to the coronavirus pandemic is about 45 minutes. >> welcome back everyone. thank you for joining us for our second afternoon here and virtual aspen. i am very pleased now to welcome to the stage steve hadley and tom donilon who served as national security advisors for our country and to immediate administrations following each other. and jim, will serve the quick introduction, there's tom popping up hello how are you. and there is steve, hi steve how are you? >> tom of course needs no introduction he is currently the chairman of the black rock investme i

of the one that really sticks in my mind was the call to prayer one week later standing and south hadley park opposite now in the war most we're just thousands of crushed resistance to quietly and silently to seen the strong message to the muslim community that we're here we've got your back and their sense of togetherness the spirit of togetherness that has brought our i believe will will see us through and that is what we must continue to demonstrate to all of our communities in the air and their diversity as a city sang that this is a place that there is no no place for height analysis but i just want to pay tribute to the courage of every single one of those people who stood up and court and made the statement. that victims that courageous individuals who deserve our respect they were. 5 and i just my heart goes out to each and every one of them and i thank them for what they have been prepared to do for our city and we will continue to work together to make sure that this is a city where everyone has seen a long and. hurricane or has made landfall in the southern united states with

destroying important buildings more than 4,000 injured and more likely still in the rubble our own hadleyamble has been following. she joins us now on the line i know beirut is a city you've been to several times. what do you know so far? >> caller: absolutely. this is a city very close to my heart and many across the middle east one of the things we are watching even now is more and more people being pulled from the rubble expect those numbers to go up. the lebanese red cross have said over 100 people have died and over 4,000 were injured. we saw two twin explosions the second explosion you saw there, at least 7,500 tons of amonium nitrate was stored at that second facility there is so much speculation on what happened yesterday. we are waiting on the government to come out and explain the details. they say the cause could have been gross negatiligence. and more on what the president said that it could have been an attack this country as you know has bhn in economic crisis for many months their currency has lost value of up to 80% since the start of the year since the port has been destr

rest in eternal peace, hadley hall. my second memoriam is for cheryl hall.he came to san francisco in 1983 and met the love of her life, pam david, [inaudible] after pursuing many different careers, it was in san francisco that she discovered her passion for real estate, eventually earning her real estate license. cheryl's love of life, her sense of human and her warmth all drew people to her, and she could also be demanding. when pam suggested they get married in october 2008, cheryl said she would if it included a party, a present in a light blue box, and that mayor newsom personal personally officiated. all conditions were personally met. we all miss her dearly, and may her memory be a blessing. >>> and my final request is that we adjourn in memory of ronnie chapman. he was known to many as a gifted street artist, who made his home on a corner for many years, displaying a sign that said art for food. he developed an affinity for art at an early age. while serving a six-year snl s sentence, he earned praise for his portraits of other incarcerated people. h

of the one that really sticks in my mind was the call to prayer one week later standing and south hadley park opposite now in the war most we're just thousands of crushed resistance to quietly and silently to seen the strong message to the muslim community that we're here we've got your back and their sense of togetherness the spirit of togetherness that has brought our i believe will will see us through and that is what we must continue to demonstrate to all of our communities in the in their diversity as a city saying that this is a place that there is no no place for height analysis but i just want to pay tribute to the courage of every single one of those people who stood up and court and made a statement. that victims that they are courageous individuals who deserve our respect they were. technophiles and i just my heart goes out to each and every one of them and i thank them for what they have been repeat to do for s.s.a. and we will continue to work to get that make sure that this as a city where everyone has a long and donald trump says federal troops are being sent to assist the

s your president trump: i feel hadley. i haven't in dealing with him for a long time as most of the people in this room know. he was involved in our campaign. he worked for goldman sachs, worked for a lot of companies, but he was involved likewise in our campaign and for a small part of the administration very early on. i haven't been dealing with him at all. i know nothing about the project other than i'd like, when i read about it, i said this is for government, this isn't for private people, and it sounded to me like showboating and i think i let my opinion be strongly stated at the time. it was showboating and maybe looking for funds, but you will have to see what happens. i think it's a very sad thing for mr. bannon. i think it is surprising, but this was something as you know just by reading social media and whatever it is and by speaking to mike and mike and all of them, i didn't like that project. i felt like it was a project being done for showboating reasons. i didn't know he was in charge or i didn't know of the

i worked for a president who ran for re-election and condi rice and steve hadley were the national securitymost of what they knew about the campaign from press coverage. what do you see when you look at what's public facing, when you look at what andrew and ryan have written, and when you just look at the patterns of bill barr auditioning for the job he has, after donald trump publicly stated he wanted roy cohn, after humiliating jeff sessions for honoring doj policy. after writing a 19-page memo that we think trump may have seen, saying a president can't obstruct justice. he somehow ends up with the job over other people that wanted it, people like chris christie, who had worked there more recently than bill barr. and now the durham probe hangs over the last 90 days. >> you know, if you go all the way back to barr's confirmation hearing, there's a pattern. he has a tell. he often gets asked a question, the one you just showed is an example, where there's an answer you expect an attorney general to give. in the confirmation hearing, the answer you would expect him to give is that he would r