melissa: let's bring in hadley heath manning, policy director at independent women's forum. ow, this is another one of those situations where you have politician promising something that the math can't possibly support. and i have to wonder if, voters are going to believe it? seems almost cruel. i mean medicare, average recipient, according to government numbers, in their lifetime, pays in 1/3 roughly of how much they get out over time. it is between 100 or 200,000 they pay in. they get back between 4 and 500,000. obviously we can't do that for everybody because it is not mathematically possible. >> that's right. medicare for all certainly ought to concern us all as taxpayers, maybe pour importantly it should concern us all as health care patients. when representative harris talks about everyone having access to health care, that means everyone covered by health care government insurance plan that is not the same thing as having health care. it can be counterproductive having access to health care services. >> they learned that in canada and england. amazing to me, people who

"wall street journal" global economics editor, jon hilsenrath, hadley heath manning, director of policy for the independent women's forum. folks, just to recap real quick what jennifer said, i thought it was interesting. seeing how much perhaps the fed was paying attention to market volatility, how much that may be playing a role in their decision-making process and also, i'll start with you, danielle, what prior fed actions have already done to this economy? i think that is the question. when chairman powell was in dallas, your neck of the woods, he told the q&a section, he admitted they are not sure what their policy decisions are doing to this economy 18 to 24 months out. there is no instrument out there to tell them what the impact will be. i thought that was a huge revelation. >> it was. these minutes are extremely, extremely dovish in my view. they definitely spoke to what central bankers, what we all learned day one at the central bank, you learn the word lag. that monetary tightening and loosening don't hit the economy for nine to 24 months going forward and that is exactly what

forbes media chairman steve forbes along with hadley heath manning, independent women's forum policy steve, what is wrong with that plan? a lot of people who have medicare think it is great. >> it is great, because it is subsidized f you extend it to all, you will have a blowout in spending, what most countries have, is rationing. that is how they control budgets. you just don't get care when you need it or want it. in england, diabetes, dialysis, above the age of 60 or 65, never get to the head of the line. we don't want rationing. that is what is wrong with this. melissa: hadley, it is a push towards a single-payer system. which would be us, the single-payer is the taxpayer, to pay for all sorts of health care. it would in the long run create a two-teared system, people waiting in line who couldn't get what they needed if you had means, you would find a way to pay for it privately. do you think that democrats realize that? >> you know, i'm not sure if they realize that or not. certainly the everyday american who hears about medicare for all, this is the latest verbiage, used to des

connell: we have alfredo ortiz, i he attended that event in washington and hadley heath manning.omen's forum policy director. criticism of the chairman before last friday, he didn't get it, didn't get what the markets were for, didn't get what is going on in the economy, does he get it now? what do you make of this. >> happy new year, connell. you had a guest that said fed had no impact on economy. we know absolutely not true. the fed has impact on economy. the best thing about today's speech, it could have been a lot worse. he basically incident say much at all. the best news, good news, the economy and fundamentals of the united states are there. yes there is easing obviously on the global front. but the fed has to understand, sometimes his off-the-cuff remarks do impact the economy. we had 250 point intraday swings there, a lot driven by this statement he said he seemed like balance sheet was too heavy, with too much credit out there. connell: certainly impacted the financial markets to your point? >> absolutely. connell: hadley, your view on how the fed chairman sees things a

to independent women's forum hadley heath manning, "axios" reporter kaitlin owens.tlin, i can't figure out the timing of governor romney's remarks here. after all he was entertaining becoming secretary of state. he was passed over for that job by rex tillerson. so, i don't know where he stands on this? >> well, neil, let's start with context, then we can move on to the speculation phase of this. the context is, romney is entering the senate but a lot of the big, chief critics of trump that were in the senate are leaving. bob corker is gone. jeff flake is gone. john mccain passed away. at least the confrontation sets contextually sets him up for the role of trump's chief critic, who will speak what makes a lot of republicans privately but won't say in public. on other hand fueling speculation romney wants to primary trump, et cetera, et cetera. we don't have any evidence of that. neil: i can't figure it out but i do wonder, hadley, what the fallout will be in the republican party. there are always those in the so-called republican party establishment who have been le

independent women's forum, hadley heath manning. lieberman is saying she is not the future of the party. raising taxes are not the future of the party. he might quibble with the 70% figure, she has hadley, i talked to the budget committee chief taking over in the house, congressman yarmuth, wants to raise corporate taxes bring them up to 2%, is open to a tax on wealthy, maybe not 70%. but you are definitely hearing talk of raising revenue from the democratic party? >> there is no doubt that is the direction they want to go. look at the resistance they put forward when it came to the tax cuts and jobs act at end of 2017. they were clearly not in favor of reducing taxes, wanting to increase taxes particularly on high earners. as the congressman said, maybe not necessarily to raise revenue. but certainly to send a political message that they believe in, charging the rich their quote, unquote, fair share. that is talking point on the left. i will disagree with joe lieberman here, that i do believe congresswoman ocasio-cortez in a lot of

go to independent women's forum hadley heath manning.ley, is it your sense that things are percolating, maybe yesterday's votes failing though they did democratic measure, republican measure was start of something? >> things have been february lating. this is not the situation where you give up and walk away. it is longest shut down in history. i understand what you said before the break, neil, when we watch the economy, watch the market, what americans are doing on everything in our every day lives the shutdown is concentrated on the federal workforce. most americans feel little impact or no impact. hopefully the federal workers will be given back pay and restored to some type of normally in d.c. neil: people say whoever blinks or whatever, i notice in shutdowns, whatever happens at moment, president caving or other side, caving the nation moves on. maybe much like the markets it is reflective of this too such will pass. at moment might set the stage for probably acrimonious relationship between the democratic house and republican senat